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41 | Scripture? | Heb 11:40 | bstudent | 116044 | ||
At Rev 21:1 "the sea is no more." Isa 57:20 states that "the wicked are like the sea." So the wicked are no more in harmony with 2 Peter 3, the "ungodly men", not the physical earth were destroyed in Noah's day. Thus the heavens and the earth are people, the "former heavens" being former authorities or governments to be replaced by God's kingdom, and the "former earth" being those who supported these corrupt, anti-Kingdom authorities to be replaced by loyal Christians that have exercised faith in "the blood of the Lamb" and resurrected pre-Christian faithful. God promised not to destroy the earth by flood again. To do so completely "by fire" would hardly be in keeping with this promise. Gehenna or "the lake of fire" mean the second death, that is total destruction, no coming back. (Rev 20:14) |
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42 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | bstudent | 115988 | ||
"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." "God is looking for such ones to worship him with spirit and truth." "Sanctify them by means of the truth; your word is truth." "Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you." Without the truth, it is impossible to draw close to God. John said: "This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith." (1 John 5:3,4) The reason professed Christians will not follow such commands as "to be no part of the world" is because they do not know God and his purposes, thus they lack the necessary faith. Consequently, He will not give them his spirit vital to being able to conquer this world under Satan's rulership. (Hebrews 11:6; James 1:7,8) People that claim to have total faith in God pick up arms when prophesied wars and lawlessness occur, killing their brother for whom Christ died. (Compare Matt 24:6;1 John 3:9-12;4:20) Let's agree to put this on the "back burner." How about discussing something less "heady." I'll post a question at Rev 12:7. Hope to hear from you there! |
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43 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | bstudent | 115986 | ||
"Classic concepts on God's nature" abound, but you and I are concerned with the truth of God's word. I have cited a few verses that indicate God can and does choose when to exercise his ability to look into the future. Surely he can tell the "finale from the beginning," but it is not necessary for him to know every detail in order to ensure the outcome. He had confidence that perfect humans could do his required will, and thankfully, with the help he has provided even we as imperfect offspring of Adam can live up to his requirements. (Matt 22:37-39) We were created in His image, so what we conceive as loving, just and wise should conform, though pale in comparison, to the Creator. Timeless, spaceless, omnipresent, multi-dimensional are impressive qualities, but without his matchless love, justice, power and wisdom, no one would be truely motivated to serve him. I've illustrated in human terms and explained by Scriptural references that contradict an "all-knowing" God why I don't by into this concept. Using encyclopias, I was surprised to learn how many concepts of Christendom have their roots in pagan philosophies rather than the Bible. Paul cautioned: "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Col 2:8) More important, Jesus told the Samaritan she worship what she didn't know, or "grasp," but said the Father is looking for those that will worship with "spirit and truth." He further promised 'we will know the truth and it will set us free.' Please cite the three most convincing Scriptures that, if not for the problems created by the verses I've cited, would lead one to believe that God knows (not, can choose to know,) everything that will ever happen in the future before it does. I will explain how we can grasp the harmonious understanding of these in light of apparent conflicting text. This subject is important to me because of the negative impact I have seen it have on people who might otherwise be interested in spiritual things. |
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44 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | bstudent | 115924 | ||
Rather than me explaining, perhaps you can explain how God could know that Adam would sin, then create him, then watch it happen, then punish him for what he already knew he would do, and not have foreordained the events in the Garden of Eden? | ||||||
45 | Were humans a mistake? | Gen 6:6 | bstudent | 115901 | ||
For all who agree that believing in a God that knows everything that will happen before it happens precludes the notion of freewill and makes God accountable for the atrocities of his creation, I will be happy to describe other fundamentally false doctrines. To write more to those that disagree would be to "run like a man running aimlessly . . .fighting like a man beating the air." (1 Cor 9:26) Please let me know. |
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46 | Who cares to discuss this verse? | Rom 8:19 | bstudent | 115789 | ||
Proverbs 2:1-5 promises: "My son, if you accept my words and store up my commands within you, turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding, and if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding, and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure, then you will understand the fear of the LORD and find the knowledge of God." This harmonizes with Jesus' famous words that "you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." Paul's words at Romans 8:19 as well as elsewhere must have been meant to be clearly understood, for he himself admonished fellow Christians: "Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air." (1 Cor 14:8,9) I would be happy to further share my thoughts on any Bible question as 'I received free so I give free." |
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47 | Who cares to discuss this verse? | Rom 8:19 | bstudent | 115644 | ||
Why would and how can "all nature" wait expectantly? My dog does, but not my geraniums? And specifically, why would it be concerned about "the revealing of the sons of God?" I think you're right that the creation is talking about us, so why are we eagerly awaiting the revealing of the sons of God?" I believe Hebrews 11:39,40 relates to this passage. These sons must have a special role that will benefit others of mankind that do not share that role, such as all the faithful mentioned by Paul who died before Christ provided the ransom. At 1 Cor 15:22-26, "those who belong to Christ" are raised first, the first and better resurrection. But others will benefit when death is done away with by the kingdom which Jesus promised "a little flock" would reign. (Luke 12:32) The 'other sheep, not of that little fold' will be blessed in connection with them. (John 10:16) At Dan 7:13,14,15, the vision foretells of Jesus receiving kingdom power, but so do the "saints" or "holy ones of the Supreme One." (v.18) These will crush all opposers of the kingdom so that the earth can be what God originally purposed - Paradise. Yes, some will rule as kings in heaven over the earth,(Rev5:9,10)but the kingdom of course has subjects - that's us, the creation that keeps on groaning and being in pain, awaiting the revealing of the sons of God! |
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48 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115510 | ||
Good idea. That includes not putting him in heaven. But let's both learn from his mistake and be carefully not to willfully practice sin as he did. (Hebrews 10:26) We can only imagine the precious privilege Adam had but squandered for us, his children - direct communication with the Almighty God. Thanks to Jesus, the second Adam, we will again enjoy that privilege. | ||||||
49 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115506 | ||
And one side note - If you are going to heaven you will not only judge Adam, but angels. See 1 Cor 6:3 and Rev 5:9,10. | ||||||
50 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115505 | ||
And I feel likewise. Paradise would hardly be paradise with the likes of unappreciative Adam. | ||||||
51 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115503 | ||
As regards Eph 4:8, in fulfillment of the prophecy at Psalm 68:18, the 'captives, gifts in men that are given' are described starting in verse 11. What a blessing to the newly founded Christian congregation! In a similar thought Paul writes at 1 Cor 12:28: "And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues." |
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52 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115499 | ||
If Adam is to be redeemed from the grave, then no one will suffer destruction, because no man has sinned like Adam. Like Jesus, he was a perfect man. But unlike Jesus, he directly disobeyed God. Adam had no excuse for this sin (imperfection), it was diliberate. Hitler, Dalmer, etc. were imperfect. Not that I'm betting they'll be resurrected, but they have a better shot than Adam! | ||||||
53 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115493 | ||
What does 1 Peter 3:19, 20 mean? “In this state [in the spirit, following his resurrection] also he [Jesus] went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls [“souls,” KJ, Dy; “people,” TEV, JB; “persons,” RS], were carried safely through the water.” (Were those “spirits in prison” the souls of the humans who had refused to take heed to Noah’s preaching before the Flood, and was the way now open for them to go to heaven? Comparison of 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 with Genesis 6:2-4 shows that these spirits were angelic sons of God that had materialized and married in Noah’s day. At 1 Peter 3:19, 20 the Greek word for “spirits” is pneu'ma·sin, while the word rendered “souls” is psy·khai'. The “spirits” were not disembodied souls but disobedient angels; the “souls” here referred to were living people, humans, Noah and his household. What was preached to “spirits in prison” must therefore have been a message of judgment.) What is the meaning of 1 Peter 4:6? “In fact, for this purpose the good news was declared also to the dead, that they might be judged as to the flesh from the standpoint of men but might live as to the spirit from the standpoint of God.” (Were these “dead” the people who had died prior to the death of Christ? As already shown, the dead are not “the spirits in prison.” Those spirits were disobedient angels. And preaching would not have benefited physically dead humans because, as Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, they “are conscious of nothing at all,” and Psalm 146:4 adds that at death a person’s “thoughts do perish.” But Ephesians 2:1-7, 17 does refer to persons who were spiritually dead and who came to life spiritually as a result of accepting the good news.) |
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54 | Why did Jesus Go to Hell | 1 Pet 3:19 | bstudent | 115492 | ||
What does 1 Peter 3:19, 20 mean? “In this state [in the spirit, following his resurrection] also he [Jesus] went his way and preached to the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days, while the ark was being constructed, in which a few people, that is, eight souls [“souls,” KJ, Dy; “people,” TEV, JB; “persons,” RS], were carried safely through the water.” (Were those “spirits in prison” the souls of the humans who had refused to take heed to Noah’s preaching before the Flood, and was the way now open for them to go to heaven? Comparison of 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 with Genesis 6:2-4 shows that these spirits were angelic sons of God that had materialized and married in Noah’s day. At 1 Peter 3:19, 20 the Greek word for “spirits” is pneu'ma·sin, while the word rendered “souls” is psy·khai'. The “spirits” were not disembodied souls but disobedient angels; the “souls” here referred to were living people, humans, Noah and his household. What was preached to “spirits in prison” must therefore have been a message of judgment.) What is the meaning of 1 Peter 4:6? “In fact, for this purpose the good news was declared also to the dead, that they might be judged as to the flesh from the standpoint of men but might live as to the spirit from the standpoint of God.” (Were these “dead” the people who had died prior to the death of Christ? As already shown, the dead are not “the spirits in prison.” Those spirits were disobedient angels. And preaching would not have benefited physically dead humans because, as Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, they “are conscious of nothing at all,” and Psalm 146:4 adds that at death a person’s “thoughts do perish.” But Ephesians 2:1-7, 17 does refer to persons who were spiritually dead and who came to life spiritually as a result of accepting the good news.) Hope this is more palatable? |
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55 | Is your God superior to you? | Gen 1:1 | bstudent | 114995 | ||
The Creator is always superior to his creation. Thus, if man "creates" a god, that god will be his inferior. One can ascertain whether a particular interpretation of Scripture is true by asking oneself: Does that interpretation show God to be more or less righteous, just, loving, etc. than me? For example, 1 Samuel 28, the account of Saul going to a practicer of spiritism to inquire of the dead prophet Samuel. Did God actually direct the "spirit" of Samuel to make divine pronouncements to Saul, from whom God had removed his holy spirit (see v.16)? This would be overstepping his own law, violators of which he annihilated from the promised land. (Deut 18:10-12) Who was Saul talking with? A demon! Read the whole account again keeping in mind how Satan misleads people (how about Eve and the serpent) and God's clear view of spiritism. Now you will be able to restore God to his lofty position. There are unfortunately numerous other cases of such misinterpretation resulting in the same tragic reproach on the loving Creator. All can be easily corrected. |
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56 | How are pre-Christians made perfect? | Heb 11:40 | bstudent | 114801 | ||
Jesus taught in illustrations not only because it is an effective teaching technique, but to reach the hearts of meek lovers of truth. Thus, much of what he said was lost on the prideful. (Mt 13:10-15,34; 11:25) Studying the Bible is like putting together a puzzle, we find the corner pieces easily, then the flat edge pieces, then perhaps certain less complicated sections, and finally the hardest pieces have nowhere to go except their proper places. The problem with many is that they refuse to put the obvious first and only allow the more difficult verses to conform to these basic truths. God had an original purpose for the earth - that it will be inhabited by righteous people that will join with his intelligent spirit creatures in praising him forever. This has not changed and must be accomplished. (Is 55:11) The earth will thus always be in inhabited and never be destroyed. (Is 45:18; Ps 37:11,29;115:16) It is the wicked that will be torn away from the earth, those ruining the earth. (Ps 37:10; Pr 2:21,22; 2Pe 3:7) You use Isaiah to help explain Revelation. Excellent! Notice Rev 21:1. What is "sea" that is no more? Isaiah 57:20 states:"But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud." Yes, the "wicked" will be no more. Now we start to see that the "new heaven and new earth" must refer to persons as well. After all, why would heaven be destroyed? I think the new heaven is the kingdom of Jesus Christ that will bring to ruin all human governments (Dan 2:44; 1Co 15:24-26)and usher in the peaceful reign promised for the "new earth" of righteous people that shun the current ungodly world and its desires. (1 Jo 2:15-17) I would love to discuss more with you. Others at this website (edb for instance) only try to label persons with conclusions counter to their own, while failing to address specific statements with Scriptural references. I trust you will prove more Christlike and have pity on me if I am misguided. Thanks in advance. |
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57 | How are pre-Christians made perfect? | Heb 11:40 | bstudent | 114716 | ||
Concerning Jesus relating the account of Lazarus and the rich man, I wanted to share some of my reasonings based on the Scriptures. 1) This is a parable, not to be taken as literal. The preceding account at Luke 16:1-8 begins very similarly to the subject account. Also notice verses 14 and 15. I think the Pharisees knew that Jesus was using the "rich man" to represent their position and privilege, but that 'The kingdom of God shall be taken away from them, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof,' common Jews who were despised by the Pharisees but repented and became Jesus' followers, represented by Lazarus (which means "God Has Helped.") (See Matthew 21:31,32,43) 2) Since Adam, the "wages of sin is death." That is death only! To tell Adam he would die, when in actuality he would continue living only to be tormented eternally strikes me as incredible implausible given God's nature. (1 John 4:8; Deuteronomy 32:4) I could not worship a God that would be less righteous than one of his creatures, creatures that are abhorred by fellow humans that would torture another human even for a few moments, even when such are guilty of dispicably inhuman acts themselves. Interestingly, when the Israelites had sunk to the degraded practice of their pagan neighbors, that of sacrificing their children, God had the following to say: "And they have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded not, neither came it into my mind." (Jeremiah 7:31) Satan is the father of the lie and god of this system, and as such, he attempts to use false religious teachings to bring reproach on the true God. It was the privilege of Jesus and is the privilege of his disciples to help others know the Father that "loved the world so much that he gave his only begotton son." Jesus taught us to pray: "Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name" (or, "may your name be sanctified", made holy.) Proverbs 27:11 states: "My son, be wise, and make my heart glad, That I may answer him that reproacheth me." I hope that this information helps you to furnish such a reply to Satan. |
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