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41 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | arrow1 | 113608 | ||
Can someone please explain why the thief is always mentioned for not being baptized. What does that have to do with anything. Adam and Eve and Moses were not baptized in Jesus name either, so what? | ||||||
42 | What does baptism consist? | 1 John 5:6 | arrow1 | 113604 | ||
answer to tim Eph 1:7, Luke 24:47, Acts 3:19, Romans 6:3-7, Acts 2:38, do not mention faith. By your logic, faith must not be necessary because it is not in those verses. You are not being very consistent. Actually, isn't it interesting, the very first time the gospel is preached(Peter's sermon) faith is "never" mentioned yet 3,000 were added to the church that day. Think about it, if faith alone is so important, how could Peter spend forty days being taught by Jesus about the Kingdom of God, and then at the first sermon he ever gives, he never mentions faith alone. By some of your logic, it would seem faith is not a requirement. Of course I'm being a little silly, faith is required. But it should be clear all of scriture is important. That's why you can't ignore the verses that say baptism saves you, or repentance saves you. Also, the phrase "faith alone" is nowhere to be found in scripture, yet that is your doctrine? |
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43 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | 1 Pet 3:21 | arrow1 | 113592 | ||
answer to romans4 5 Paul's message was not different than Peter's. You conveniently left out v.32 Spoke the word of the Lord means "told him the Gospel message". The jailors response to his message was to immediately be baptized, same response the 3,000 had. Obviously, if they had the same response, they heard the exact same message. |
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44 | Is baptism needed for salvation? (One.) | 1 Pet 3:21 | arrow1 | 113581 | ||
Reply to Hank, How can anyone possibly refer to the thief on the cross as reason baptism in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is not necessary. How can you make that a requirement of the thief when 1st of all Jesus had not yet been resurrected, and 2nd the Great Commission has not yet taken place. The thief was still under the old covenant. If you so easily use this as an argument against the need for baptism in Jesus name(which it clearly has nothing at all to do with it) could it be quite possible you're incorrect about other views on doctrine. |
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45 | Answering Baptismal Regenerationalist | 1 Pet 3:21 | arrow1 | 113573 | ||
I have no idea what that illustration meant, I'm not trying to be funny, it just doesn't make sense. I'll try to interject a thought and see if it applies. How about by faith you get baptized into Christ(jump into the raft). There now that makes sense. | ||||||
46 | Answering Baptismal Regenerationalist | 1 Pet 3:21 | arrow1 | 113494 | ||
John 5:24, Romans 3:28, Eph 2:8-9 do not say faith "alone". In fact the phrase faith alone is found nowhere in scripture(except in James, but that doesn't help your view). 'Corresponding to that' refers to 'safely'? that is a real stretch. Water Baptism is how you make the pledge, and in making that pledge you will receive the Holy Spirit. Again baptism is a spiritual act of faith, in baptism God is the one who is doing the work, saving and cleansing you. Yes, His death does save us, but you have to be put "into Christ" to connect his saving shed blood. Baptism puts us "in Christ", Romans 6:3-4, Galatians 3:26-27, if done as an act of faith and obedience through a repentant heart. |
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47 | Is this baptism by the Holy Spirit? | 1 Pet 3:21 | arrow1 | 113489 | ||
Water Baptism in Jesus name (assuming one is doing it through faith and repentence) and receiving the Holy Spirit are basically one in the same event. Peter's 1st sermon makes that so clear. If you see baptism as an act of faith, just like believing and repenting, not a work of the law where you are trying to earn something, but rather an act of faith and obedience whereby you will receive something(forgiveness of sins and the Holy Spirit). The ark did not save Noah. He and his family happened to be "in" the ark. But 1 Peter 3:21 so clearly says, "in it(the ark) only a few people were Saved Through Water". The Floodwaters didn't remove dirt from Noah any more than Baptism removes dirt from your body(not sure what point you were trying to make there?) You are right though, it was his faith and "obedience" that saved him. I think that is something most people forget, faith is an action not merely mental assent to an idea. Water baptism is clearly what is being spoken of in 1 Peter 3:21. I have never seen any Biblical Scholar, no matter what the denominational background, refer to it otherwise. | ||||||
48 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113482 | ||
I found it interesting you said Noah's faith and "obedience" saved him. I thought we were saved by faith alone. Anyhow, main point: Baptism isn't symbolic of the flood, the flood and what happened to Noah symbolizes baptism. It says they were "saved through water" and this water symblizes baptism "that now saves you also". What can be more clear when it says baptism now saves you? It goes on to explain that baptism is not a physical act(not the removal of dirt) because baptism is a spiritual act(Col. 2:12)you are spiritually circumcised by Christ during baptism. It(baptism) is a pledge to God. And it goes on to say it(baptism) saves you by the resurrection of Christ. Yes, without the resurrection you would be just getting wet. Of course baptism 'is' symbolic, death, burial, resurrection and going down under and coming up out the water a new creature in Christ. But it so clearly says "it" saves you and "it" is a pledge to God, and "it" is effective precisely because of the resurrection. Saved by Grace through Faith at Baptism, it's so simple. |
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49 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113456 | ||
How is it you so twist this verse. Clearly it is saying Baptism now saves you, (not the removal of dirt, because baptism is a spiritual act, not a physical act, refer to Col. 2:12 in baptism you are spiritually circumcised by Christ), And again it repeats "it saves you by the resurrection of Christ. | ||||||
50 | Water baptism unnecessary for conversion | Acts 2:38 | arrow1 | 113455 | ||
Saul was instructed by the Lord to go to straight street where a man named Ananias would tell him "what he must do". Yes, saul spent 3 days and 3 nights fasting and praying. Then he met Annanias who put his hands on him and said receive your sight. Then Saul was told "what are you waiting for, be baptized and WASH YOUR SINS AWAY". If he was previously saved, why did he still need to have his sins washed away??? |
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51 | Hank, all I need is just one quote. | John 3:5 | arrow1 | 113437 | ||
My apology, first of all, I didn't mean you misquoted the passage, simply that in quoting verse 31 and leaving out verse 32, you leave out a considerable amount of what the jailer was told. As to Galatians, my BIG mistake, I meant chapter 3 verse 26-27, not 5:27, you're right it doesn't exist. Anyhow, now that I cleared that up, when the jailer asked what he must do, to simply say believe, well that's not the same thing as saying you are saved by grace thru faith alone, and obviously, verse 32 infers alot was added to that including the instruction to be baptized, otherwise how would he have known to do it. |
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52 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | arrow1 | 113435 | ||
No my friend, it does not show baptism is a symbol. It clearly says baptism is a spiritual act of Christ, in baptism Christ is spiritually circumcising us. | ||||||
53 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | arrow1 | 113434 | ||
I love it when people quote the thief on the cross wasn't baptized in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit. Think about it, how could you require him to do something that wasn't even commanded yet(the great commission) and Jesus had not yet been resurrected yet. I suppose I could argue that Abraham, David and Moses were not saved because they did not recieve the holy spirit yet( John 8:39). The New Testament says you must receive the holy spirit to be saved. Everyone in the Old Test. was under the Old Covenant, hence the purpose of the New Covenant which we today are under. | ||||||
54 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | arrow1 | 113431 | ||
Hank, I notice the verse you just quoted shed his blood "for the forgiveness of sins", compare it to Acts 2:38, "baptized for the forgiveness of sins". They are exactly the same phrase in English and in Greek(look in a greek bible). Water in and of itself without faith and repentance is useless. However baptism in his name is our response to the gospel. It is not a work of the law where we are trying to earn something, but an act of faith whereby we will receive something, namely forgiveness and the holy spirit. 1 Peter 3:21, it is the pledge of a good concience, and is effective because of the ressurection of Christ. You just said "to introduce any saving act or work we perform is heresy, well I guess then belief is a work, repenting is a work, the sinners prayer is a work. We are all simply saved by his blood alone, nothing we can do, I guess everyone is automatically saved. Why is it so hard to understand the concept "saved by grace thru faith at baptism" A gift is still a gift, even if you have to meet a certain condition to recieve it. |
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55 | Hank, all I need is just one quote. | John 3:5 | arrow1 | 113400 | ||
You are wrong about the quote to the jailer. Read verse 32 - He spoke "the word of the Lord" to him and his household. That was the complete message of the Gospel, not simply to believe. And that is why he was baptized immediately, because he was told to, it was part of the message(Peter's sermon). Notice it was after his baptism that he was filled with joy, because they had come to believe, he and his whole house. As to Eph. 2:8, compare it to Gal. 5:26-27. Saved by Grace through Faith at Baptism. Baptism is God's work not man's. Baptism is no more a work than is belief or repentance. It is simply our response to the Gospel, our pledge of a good concience. And like faith and repentance it is a requirement. |
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56 | Hank, all I need is just one quote. | John 3:5 | arrow1 | 113397 | ||
Sorry Hank if I offended anyone by saying g**h. If we are saved by "faith alone'" is it safe to say repentence is not necessary. I noticed in Ephesians 2:8 repentance is not there, oh well, the phrase faith alone isn't there either. Sorry, that may have been a little harsh. Anyhow, back to my question, surely there was just one person during the first 400 years that said the sinners prayer. Please if I could have that one quote. | ||||||
57 | Previous question | Acts 10:44 | arrow1 | 113396 | ||
Previous question on Acts 10:44, not 11:13. | ||||||
58 | Please answer the question directly. | John 3:5 | arrow1 | 113344 | ||
The early church fathers are infinitely more qualified to interpret scripture. They read and spoke in the original languages, and were taught by the apostles or taught by someone who knew the apostles or taught by people who were only one generation from the early church. | ||||||
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