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41 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56647 | ||
Please point out where I went wrong! You asked for evidence, and I gave you the evidence. What's the problem? By the way that's not theory, It's a fact, It's exactly what the bible saids. The Bible is Right! |
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42 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56645 | ||
First of all "We ought to obey God rather than men" Acts 5:29 Just because a man put something in a book, doesn't make it right. "THE BIBLE IS RIGHT" Mr McArthur disagree's with Jesus then, Because Jesus said in Luke 13:3,5 I tell you, No: but, except you repent, you shall all likewise perish. And Matt 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; These are the things that make faith perfect. James 2:22,23. |
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43 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56641 | ||
I went to the two-or-three hours so that you would not run from the issue, when I showed you just two of the nine text where it showed believers being baptized in the same hour you tried to say that the very word "hour" was not in the text, and instead you used the word "immediately" which means at once, right now, right then. I could not believe that you never read that before, about believers being baptized immediately. |
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44 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56640 | ||
Do we take this subject of baptism to lightly? | ||||||
45 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56639 | ||
I just want to know are there any other cases like this one. And I know there is only one plan of salvation, and I know when we run upon something that is different from the rest of what the bible says about conversion then it must be a special event, that has a reason that we must study to understand. And to you last question, I'm not a member of any denomination! |
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46 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56636 | ||
That was not my intention to prove anything, I just ask a question. Why did they get baptized the same hour they believed? I stated that people take baptism into Christ to lightly: And may we need to find out more about it than we know. My personal belief is that I believe that baptism is just as important as confessing the name of Jesus Christ, Acts 8:36,37 here it saids: And as they went on their way: and they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. I don't know about you, but when I read that story of the eunuch's conversion I rejoice, because even in the desert God will make a way. It let me know the type of preaching Philip did also, because the eunuch is the one who brought up water after being taught, and he ask Philip the question, See, here is water, What doth hinder me to be baptized? Philip answered and said, If you believe with all your heart you may! The eunuch said I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, then Philip baptized him immediately after hearing that confession. I know most people don't believe that that had anything to do with salvation but I believe it did. And I'm trying to understand why you don't believe what happened here. |
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47 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56633 | ||
I don't know if you are aware that each verse in your translation verified what I affirmed. In all the cases of conversion the persons (immediately which means without delay; at once) look in any dictionary to verify the meaning. They believed and were baptized! No one never waited for days, weeks, month or years to be baptized. |
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48 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56563 | ||
Let me say this, no one waited more than two-or-three hours without being baptized into Christ. Try reading other translations and you will see my point. |
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49 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56562 | ||
Can you site any other passage other than Acts 10:34-48 where this was the case? I have delt with this passage before, and I find only one case like the one mentioned here. And one out of nine conversions means there was something special about this one. This is when God brought the Gentiles into the fold. And when the apostles in Acts 2 received the Holy Spirit, but all of the other cases were baptism then the Spirit was given. About baptism in the same hour go to Acts 8:26-38 and Acts 16:33. | ||||||
50 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56560 | ||
Sure: Acts 8:35-39 "Then Philip opened his mouth and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; whay doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. Act 16:30-34 And brought them out, and said, Sir, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they SPAKE UNTO HIM THE WORD OF THE LORD, AND TO ALL THAT WERE IN HIS HOUSE. (only to make a point) 33 And he took them the SAME HOUR OF THE NIGHT, AND WASHED THEIR STRIPES; AND WAS BAPTIZED, HE AND ALL HIS, STRAIGHTWAY. 34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house. Both of these cases were in the same hour, but notice the first text in Acts 8:26-38 I used vs 35-38 to save space, but the point I want to make is that these two were in the desert, this is the answer to the "what if you were in the desert question" God will provide! Philip taught the eunuch and baptized him in the same hour. And the jailer was also baptized the same hour of the cold night with all that were in his house. |
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51 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56556 | ||
That text is in 2Cor 7:10,11 but it's dealing with a member of that conregation who took his father's wife, he's in Christ already but he had sinned. Repentance is a requirement for salvation! Acts 2:38. But it's not the only thing one must do to be saved. | ||||||
52 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56554 | ||
Acts 2:41 the three thousand in one day, chpt. 8:12,13,38;9:18;10:48;16:33;19:5. All of these in the same hour were baptized, and surely in the same day that they believed. | ||||||
53 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56549 | ||
The first century believers obeyed this command in the same hour they believed, and all of the conversions in the book of Acts the believers were baptized the same hour. But people today wait days, weeks, months and some wait years before they are baptized, can they still be saved by being disobedient? |
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54 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56543 | ||
How could you make a statement like that? Luke 13:3,5 "except you repent you shall all likewise perish." | ||||||
55 | What if you don't obey that command? | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56542 | ||
Why did those in the first century get baptized the same hour that they believed, and baptism was commanded in Acts 10:48 all in the same hour. | ||||||
56 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56523 | ||
The statement you made was "baptism is mentioned nowhere in the chapter" but vs.22,23,26. And you comment about John 3:5, is not correct! Being born of the water and the spirit, is the same as being buried with Christ in baptism. Look at 1John 5:8-5. |
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57 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56402 | ||
I also heard this statement: Eph 2:8 'by grace are ye saved....;and Romans 3:22-27. Nowhere in these passages is baptism mentioned as a prequisite to salvation." While it is true that the passage referenced (Eph.2:8; Rom.3:22-27) do not explicitly mention baptism, neither does it mention any allusion to repentance. Are we to assume that repentance is not required for redemption? Surely not. It is rarely the case that a single context will totally exhaust the biblical material on a particular theme. It is the "sum" of the truth that counts (Psa. 119:160), not an isolated text, that may focus upon a limited point of emphasis. Acts 2:38 contends for repentance and baptism as "requisites" for "forgiveness," with no specific mention of faith. However, by means of that interpretive rule known as "analogy of faith," belief in the Lord must be implied as well. For example, the fact that God is said to be "one" (Dt.6:4) does not negate the biblical truth so abundantly affirmed elsewhere that God, i.e., the nature of deity, is possessed by three Personalities-father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Mt.28:19-20). A truth emphasized by additional information in other texts. This is a most fundamental principle of interpretation. While Ehp.2:8 mentions salvation by grace through faith, later, in the same letter, the apostle affirms that one is "cleansed...by washing of water with the word"(5:23). If one concludes that "saved" (2:8) is the eqivalent of "cleansed" (5:23), it then becomes obvious that salvation by "faith" is not independent of being "washed with water," (a phrase admitted by virtually all scholars to be a reference to baptism - Arndt, 481; Thayer, 382). Moreover, while both grace and faith are stressed in Rom.3:22ff- as means of "redemption"-three chapters later the inspired apostle affirmed that one is buried with Christ in baptism that he might walk in "newness of life" (6:3-4). Is "newness of life" a parallel descriptive for salvation? Of course it is. Clearly, then, salvation by grace and faith is not exclusive of other conditions specified in supplementary texts relating to justification. |
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58 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56393 | ||
Acts 4:12 Can bring better understanding to this subject than any other verse I know. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved". In Acts 2:38 the power is in the name of Jesus Christ that allows baptism to save. This is why Paul had a problem with the church at corinth, the members claiming the names of different people who baptized them. 1Cor. 1:10-17, mainly vs.15 "Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name". Paul was afraid, This is why he was glad that he only baptized a few people. Notice vs 13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were you baptized in the Name of Paul? You all take baptism far to lightly: You all need to ask this question Where did baptism come from? Jesus asked the chief priests and the elders this same question; do any one on the forum know the answer? When ever anyone handles the word of God we need to follow some simple rules: In his famous work Biblical Hermeneutics, M.S. Terry defined the concept of "analogy of faith." This principle "assumes that the Bible is a self-interpreting book, and what is obscure in one passage may be illuminated by another. No single statement or obscure passage of one book can be allowed to set aside a doctrine which is clearly established by many passages" (449). ") Concerning John 3:5, the word baptism does not appear anywhere in the Greek text. No form of the word occurs until v. 22, which is outside of the discoure and is found in a narrative passage describing the fact that both Jesus and John did some baptizing in the countryside." While it is true that the passage referenced (John 3:5 do not explicitly mention baptism, neither does it mention any allusion to repentance. Are we to assume that repentance is not required for redemption? Surely not. |
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59 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56384 | ||
Try reading pass verse 21 and maybe you won't make the mistake you just made below. "There is no mention of baptism anywhere in the chapter." |
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60 | Isn't this verse saying that we rise to | Rom 6:4 | The Bible is Right | 56237 | ||
Now to rightly handle scripture, you must go by the results and outcome of the whole story, let's look, verse 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. What do we learn here, Paul and Silas spoke unto them the Word of the Lord, What words, did they tell them to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of there sins? I believe that's exactly what they were told, Acts 2:38, 8:35-39. "But, Paul never said that the jailer must be baptized to be saved did he!" If Paul or Silas spake the word of the Lord, they were told to repent and be baptized, because that's what the Lord said to do Acts 2:38; 8:35-39 "What about John 3:5? This has been dealt with many times, but John 3:5 never mentions baptism. It does mention being born of water, but this is explained in the very next birth as being physical or natural birth." Tell me please, that you don't believe John 3:5 is talking about "phyiscal or natural birth" because Nicodemus brought that up in verse 4 when he said "How can a man be born when he is old? can be enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? So for anyone to believe that is verse 5 is talking about phyisical or natural birth are wrong, wrong, wrong. And the Bible is right! "3) You say that baptism alone does not save, but Scripture does say that faith alone saves (Eph. 2:8-9) and Scripture explictly rules out any role of works in salvation." The bible talks about three kinds of faith, and for anyone to believe that faith alone saves, have very weak faith. Strong faith produces action, and all who heard the gospel obeyed what they heard and the Lord added them to the church. Eph.2:6 says he raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: vs. 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. If you can prove with the bible that this verse is talking about baptism I would believe it! The text does not say, Faith alone! All those in this church were baptized into Christ. |
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