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41 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223440 | ||
Dear Beja, BradK and DocT: With each successive post, I seem to confuse y'all more and more, when it seems so simple at least in my mind. I have to agree with all of your posts excpet for the idea (a question) that we can earn our salvation. Once again I agree with you here; there's absolutely NO WAY any human being can possibly earn their way to Heaven. BUT I still insist Love is the best motivation to seek Him out, find out about His Commands and obey them so we can please Him. Further I'll agree this kind of Love may not be the first type of response to our God, especially when we see the kind of punishments meted out to different individuals we see in His Word, i.e. the Cannanites, Achan and his family, Annanias and Saphira in Acts 5, etc. Thus the fear to which I alluded earlier. All I'm saying is a confirmation of what we see in God's Word: IF we truly love God, we'll obey Him. That means we'll study His Word and find out what all that level of obedience means. Hopefully a person after reaching the age of accountability like Shannon apparently has will be perseverant enough to pursue her study and follow God's Plan of Salvation and become a christian. Hopefully, like it's been suggested, she will ask the right questions of her parents, teachers at Sunday school and elsewhere and come up with the right answers. Upon obeying God's Commands in this area, she will become a christian and begin her journey with her hand in God's Hand and go to Heaven. How could this be simpler? This is merely just anohter chapter in the history of mankind with yet another child of God finding their way to Heaven like God is hoping for ALL of mankind. God has extended His Grace and Mercy to mankind ALL of this time since He kicked us out of the Garden. His Plan of having His Son sacrified for men and women everywhere came off just like He intended. And now we enjoy the benefits. But like we're ALL saying, in order for any one of us to receive this Gift of Salvation, we must follow and obey God's Commands from the day we become a christian to the end of our lives, Rev 2:10. Hopefully, this post has cleared up any remaining questions. I remain your servant and God bless. Inquisitor |
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42 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223444 | ||
Then please explain to me how you're fulfilling God's Commands? How are you demonstrating your faithfulness to Him in accordance with Rev 2:10? How do you deal with a person who becomes a christian but then a few years later, gets himself in a siatuation wherein he kills someone and refuses to repent? Where is this person headed? Are we not motivated to approach this person (say you or I know him personally) and strive to get him to repent so as to restore his faithfulness to God? How about instead of getting back to a good relationship with God, his life spirals downward into a life drug abuse and stealing? He gets further and further away from God; does this eternal security work for him and all other christiains who afterwards turn away from God and deny their relationship with Him? The scriptures from which you quote are all true and reflect the Wonderful Grace as a sure fact. But our response is one of attitude; that is, we must RESPECT God's Grace and NOT take it for granted. We shouldn't abuse His Grace and Mercy like someone may be tempted to do IF they believe in this "eternal security." If we love God and maintain this special relationship to Him with the proper attitude to the end of lives, yes I agree with you, Christ will be there for us, 1 Jn 1. BUT if we're NOT faithful as reflected in some of the letters He issued in Revelation, Chapters 2 and 3, He will treat us like all the unfaithful and divert those individuals to eternal damnation. This is all reflected very clearly in Matt 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38 When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39 Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40 And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ 41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43 I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 44 “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” God bless you all -- Inquisitor |
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43 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223449 | ||
I can only respond with the way I've been taught all my life. I'll try to follow the flow of your post. Your Item 1: I quoted Rev 2:10 because it most certainly does apply to all christians for all time. Jesus specifically wrote to those 7 different congregations but He also meant for the guidance to be applicable to all christians everywhere for all time. I agree that Revelation is a prophetic book (and highly figurative) for the most part but the first three chapters are very easily understood. He identified some problems and to a few congregations He gave praise but the guidance for correction is easily understood and should be followed, thus the straight-forward and simple instruction of "Be thou faithful till death." is in perfect harmony with the quote from Matt 25:31-45. I realize this is not in harmony with the belief about "Once saved, always saved" or "Eternal Security" but this conflict has existed since those beliefs were first postulated. In support of Jesus' Words, I can only provide more scriptures such as 1 Tim 1:18 This charge I commit to you, son Timothy, according to the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, 19 having faith and a good conscience, which some having rejected, concerning the faith have suffered shipwreck, 20 of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme. Here we see Paul has apparently failed to have these two individuals repent of their sin of blasphemy and their being given over to the devil. Pretty clear example of christians falling from Grace. 1 Cor 9:24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. 25 And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an imperishable crown. 26 Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. 27 But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified. Another clear example from Paul about his own fragile condition. He's afraid if he doesn't keep his own spirit humble, he could lose his soul. So it's quite obvious it's not just one verse but a very large portion of NT reflects this possibility of people becoming christians but are not able or not willing to remain faithful and dedicated to the Lord. Peter describes this problem in 2 Pet 2:18-20. Your Item 2: I was very cautious in citing previous examples of people who failed God miserably in being His children at one time in their lives and then NOT following His guidance. Along with the group in my previous post, I could add Nadab and Abihu from Num 3, Uzzah in 2 Sam 6. ALL (the whole group) these people were considered followers of God and failed so miserably that God punishes them publically and records it in His Word for everyone for all time to recognize and learn from their mistakes. In contrast as you have stated, King David was "a man after God's own heart" but the key difference is the main point I've been emphasizing all along: David's attitude. He was willing to recognize his sin, he repented of that sin and lived a Godly life at least to the best of his ability. In contrast, we all know christian friends in our lives who started out their lives as good, clean-living people and worshipped on a regular basis. But our faithfulness to God requires more than that as Jesus stated in Matt 25. We must see ourselves as God sees us. As I mentioned there's nothing we can do as our acts of kindness and everything else "good" about our lives are as filthy rags to our God, Isaiah 64:6. Our only hope to put our faith in God's Grace as you have stated BUT the key afterwards is to maintain that relationship with the proper attitude as clearly shown in 1 Jn 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. So the Bible is clear throughout, from start to finish. Yes, we must establish a personal relationship with God Almighty BUT we must maintain that relationship. Hopefully this is all made clear. God bless you all -- Inquisitor |
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44 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223454 | ||
Quoted from Beja: Q. How do we receive forgiveness and imputation of God's righteousness? A. Acts 2:36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” 37 Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Men and brethren, what shall we do?” 38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” Q. This is the entire question, a lot of what you say is correct, IF it is understood with the right answer to the above question. If you are saying that we receive these things by loving God, this is a false gospel. These things were purchased for us by Christ's life, death, ressurection, but we receive these things through faith alone. Can you or can you not affirm this? If you wish to to not confuse us, simply answer that question clearly. A. Yes indeed the gift from the Holy Spirit includes all these things like salvation for our soul (forgiveness for our sins), close personal relationship with Christ our Saviour, close personal relationship with the church for our support and edification, especially when we worship together. There are so many things included in this gift but there are also a few things we must do to ACCEPT this gift just as we do when fulfilling the requirements of a Last Will and Testament of someone who passes on and leaves his goods, Christ did this for all of us. This is made so very clear in Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. 16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18 Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, 20 saying, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you.” 21 Then likewise he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission. I'm NOT saying that we receive these things by loving God, that's one of our motivations. I'm saying that we received what God has promised us as a result of our obeying and following His Commandments. This further demonstrated by all the past examples throughout the Bible. All of God's faithful and obedient followers like Abraham, and all the others described in Heb 11 received God's Blessings because they obeyed God. They too may have been motivated by their love of God but the main reason they pleased God is a result of their obedience. I'm not certain of this concept of "imputed righteousness" but I'll take a stab at it. Hopefully you're referring to the fact that God looks at all human beings with the sin in our lives BUT after becoming a christian, then we have the Blood of Jesus covering our sins. Again I must refer to the passage in Hebrews as Christ is described there as the Perfect High Priest, our Mediator. He's our "go-between" spanning the gulf between us and God. He's the One who first blazed the trail between the human condition to God and we can follow His Footsteps by accepting His Leadership into our lives. This is made clear in 1 John 1:5 This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us. I do sincerely hope this is clear -- Inquisitor |
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45 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223475 | ||
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46 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | Inquisitor | 223749 | ||
All I can say is that we should comply with the obvious guidance in our Bibles, God's Word. Throughout the NT, the guidance is very clear. In becoming christians, we establish a personal relationship with God, through His Son and His Blood shed on the cross. AFTER becoming christians, we must maintain that relationship through studying His Word and praying for continued guidance. This is all made very clear in 1 John. IF we neglect this relationship, then we can repent and re-establish that connection. We also must maintain our relationship with our fellow man, most especially our fellow christians. I'm not sure about the wording, as you say "right being" or "good works" but I'm quite certain we MUST maintain this balance between worshipping in Spirit AND in Truth. We MUST maintain this balance between love for God AND love for our fellow man. AND we MUST maintain this balance between faith in God and good works as described in James 2. This way, our good works is proof of our faith in God. I hope all this is a little clearer. God bless you. Inquisitor. |
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47 | Becoming a christian | John 6:37 | Inquisitor | 222908 | ||
Quoted from Doc: Anyway, relative to baptism: baptism is something that the saved do, not something that makes them saved. Birds fly because they are birds, flying does not make them birds. I'm not sure about the analogy of birds and their inborn ability to fly to this discussion. But I am interested in following ALL of the Words from the Bible on the subject of becoming a christian. It just seems like there's so much controversy and I don't understand why. I read Mk 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned." Yes, I can ackowledge in light of CDBJ's post, there are some scriptures that DON'T say the word "baptism" but God only has to say something once and we should do it, right? After all, He is God. So in addition to believing, confessing, and repenting, it just seems natural to tell everyone when we're discussing this subject that baptism is part of the process. After all, one doesn't have the whole enchilada without all the vital ingredients, right? I'm just trying to get us all on the same page and aim for that unity for which our Lord prayed to His Father. Later on Paul encourages all christians to be of one mind, one faith, one body, one Lord and one baptism. Eph 4:4-6 It's not my obsession with this concept...it's the Lord's. He wants us to come to Him, as HE (and only He) is "the Way, the Truth and the Life." Jn 14:6 |
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48 | wHO ARE SHEEP FROM ANOTHER FOLD | John 10:16 | Inquisitor | 224725 | ||
How do you come to this conclusion? What scripture is used in support? Please explain. Thanks and God bless, Inquisitor |
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49 | wHO ARE SHEEP FROM ANOTHER FOLD | John 10:16 | Inquisitor | 224728 | ||
I've heard other strange interpretations, including people from the past before Jesus' time and far in His future. So as I said, there's no value in speculating as to whom exactly Jesus is referring. When there's not any Bible commentary to help interpret such an unusual statement, it's best to leave it alone. God bless you all, Inquisitor |
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50 | wHO ARE SHEEP FROM ANOTHER FOLD | John 10:16 | Inquisitor | 224750 | ||
108cious and Lionheart, It does look like you all have made a very good conclusion, coupling these words, Matt 15:24 with those about sheep from another fold. It does sound closer to the whole of God's Word than any other. God bless you. Inquisitor |
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51 | Paradise vs. Heaven | John 20:17 | Inquisitor | 224654 | ||
We're not given any idea of the details on the actual "places" of Paradise or Hades. It seems pretty clear from the scriptures that they are a "holding pattern" for the souls who have passed on, waiting for the ultimate Judgment Day for all of us. In answer to your second question: Yes, we modern people or christians even might says "we're going to Heaven" after the passing of our lives and ultimately that may be true depending on the Judgment from our Father. But in reality, those that know their Bible should know about this information on Paradise and Hades. On the third question: Personally, I don't believe Paradise or Hades is on earth or is even a physical place. Since we're talking about Lazarus and the rich man AFTER their passing, we're referring to their souls in speaking to Jesus. Thus Paradise and Hades must be a spiritual sort of "place" or really a state of being. That's about all I know on this subject; we'll just have to wait on getting further details. Hope this helps. God bless. Inquisitor |
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52 | Will Jews make it to heaven? | Rom 9:1 | Inquisitor | 225009 | ||
Beja, I can only respond with more words from Jesus... Jn 14:15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you. 19 “A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20 At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.” 22 Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?” 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me. Just trying to make sense out of the whole NT. How do you interpret Jesus' Words above? God bless, Inquisitor. |
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53 | Will Jews make it to heaven? | Rom 9:1 | Inquisitor | 225028 | ||
But Brad, You didn't respond to Jesus' Words from the scriptures as quoted in my post. Please give me your interpretation. I await your response. God bless, Inquisitor |
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54 | Will Jews make it to heaven? | Rom 9:1 | Inquisitor | 225049 | ||
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55 | Arguing Among Apostles?? | Gal 2:11 | Inquisitor | 224632 | ||
Your Point 5 is a very interesting one: Gal 6:1 Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted. Can you infer any further major points for our benefit in today's world? God's blessings to you, Inquisitor |
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56 | Arguing Among Apostles?? | Gal 2:11 | Inquisitor | 224656 | ||
Lionheart, Doc and 108cious, I sincerely appreciate all of your responses; they're all very good points to this rather interesting story. I was trying to go for something much bigger, at least in my humble opinion. Let me explain. I like to use my imagination to try and make these kinds of scenes in the Bible come alive. Now imagine in the Christian world at that time, the big and famous Peter, so called leader of the church in Jerusalem coming to Antioch. Then Paul approaches Peter (hopefully like it's been mentioned), and begins talking about this subject in subdued tones or maybe they talked about it previously. Anyway, it's obvious that Peter has a real problem switching over to this whole new idea of ALL of the full benefits of Christianity being extended to everyone, including Gentiles. And this is true in spite of God's Personal Revelation to Peter in Acts 10. Now we all know that both Peter and Paul are endowed with miraculous knowledge and powers of self control from the Holy Spirit. But it seems the HS is allowing the whole world to find out about this problem. In other words, the HS wanted Peter to find out on his own as he is famously a little bit stubborn about learning things. We know this from his past. Well where else could we could go for a Bible based commentary on this most unusual strategy from the Holy Spirit? Where else does He let the Apostles experience this kind of "learning on their own" and walk on their own? The biggest scene of which I can think is that of the famous letter issued in Acts 15. All of us know the scene pretty well. Paul has brought the situation to the elders in Jerusalem for resolution as he should. Judiazers (sp?) are messing up everything by insisting on Christians being circumcized in order to be truly pleasing to God. This is the first major crisis for these christian leaders to deal with on nation-wide scale. They know what they decide will set a precendent and will be followed for all time. What a powerful opportunity to come up with a gradiose creed, something what they experienced with the famous Law of Moses. And what do these great and noble leaders do? Well first they pray to God for guidance and then after much discussion, they issued a very humble letter with merely four restrictions. You know what they are or you can re-read Acts 15 for a reminder. But my point is, they humbled themselves and minimized this guidance, taking special pains to avoid ALL the business about circumcision. This point I'm making includes the fact the HS allowed us mankind (christians really) to make up our minds about how the church was to proceed and handle these kinds of problems. In other words, they held up these gentlemen (Apostles) with miraculous powers like we hold up our children and then let them learn to walk on their own. God, Jesus and HS were all in this together and let us mankind do our own thing and thanks be to God, these Apostles were humble enough to minimize their spirit and chose solid Godly guidance from centuries past. That's the wonderful point I'm trying to showcase. What a wonderful development: God wants all of us to graduate from His Micro-management as in the OT and see ourselves as mature children of God. He wants us to keep trying our best to imitate His Son and His Lifestyle, His Way of Thinking with "What would Jesus do." Now back to Galatians. Yes indeed Doc and 108cious make a good point. 108cious, I think I finally get the point of your name: It's tenicious...correct? Yes, in Gal 6:1, we are to follow Paul's instruction in correcting our fellow man or christian. We have to assume Paul did follow this procedure with Peter; it's just not recorded as we didn't need to know, according to God. So Peter and most probably ALL the Jewish christians had a very difficult time with this business of allowing Gentiles into the Family of God with ALL the benefits. Much like our country is having difficulties with prejudices in many different quandrants of our nation. Mankind has always had this problem but we're working on it, right? To the best of our ability. AND let's not forget that Paul and Peter are reconciled as brothers. Peter even acknowledges Paul's superior handling of God's Word. 2 Pet 3:14 Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; 15 and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, 16 as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. Well, I appreciate your allowing me to share. God bless, Inquisitor |
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57 | Arguing Among Apostles?? | Gal 2:11 | Inquisitor | 224677 | ||
Dad (tongue-in-cheek), I'm not certain but it seems you're trying to imply that my post was "speculating outside what has been revealed." Would you care to elaborate and pinpoint which particular statement is in conflict? I try very hard with all of my posts to this Forum to keep my statements within the bounderies of God's Word, or at least His Intent. Surely you don't think our Lord forbids us to use our imagination when He leaves out some of the details in His stories. I'm hoping to walk away from this thread of dicsussion with some encouragement. Do you have any such words for me? God bless you, Inquisitor |
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58 | Arguing Among Apostles?? | Gal 2:11 | Inquisitor | 224730 | ||
I can only respond with what's in the Bible. In God's Word, we have many, MANY parables from the world's best Teacher, Jesus Himself. He teaches from Parables because He's the best at taking "earthly basic truths from God's Creation and illustrating points of Hevenly Principles or Truths from His Father." Now most of His parables are given so those with a hunger for righteousness (then and now) can see between the lines and appreciate the Teaching as given by our Lord. So that means we must learn to make conclusions, using our minds and gleaning the most important threads in those parables and arrive at the ultimate point to which our Lord is pointing. See Matt 13:10-16. Only with a very few Parables, the Lord is forced to interpret the Parable even to His beloved disciples, i.e. The Sower and the Parable on the wheat and tares, Matt 13. So here the Lord is actually encouraging us to "put two and two together" and come up with the right interpretation. Seems like a sound Biblical Principle to me. The most important conclusion to draw from all this is as you alluded. We MUST make certain we do conclude those things in accordance with the whole NT. Thus we don't have any contradiction within God's Word. This way, we can comply with Paul's words to Timothy. God bless you in your studies, Inquisitor |
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59 | Arguing Among Apostles?? | Gal 2:11 | Inquisitor | 224734 | ||
Just one that comes immediately to mind is that of Lazarus and the rich man. Many think this is a parable based with a fictional name then there are a significant portion of others who think this is based on a true story of two individuals who passed on to their Maker. Jesus doesn't give us much help with this quandry. This is the only one of which I can think at the moment, but I'll think on your question and will answer as best as I can. I would have to defer to someone else for an answer to the second question. |
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60 | Arguing Among Apostles?? | Gal 2:11 | Inquisitor | 224735 | ||
I did check out the post, 157835. It does give out some good guidance but I also noticed the name of the author. | ||||||
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