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221 | The true Gospel Jesus proclaimed | Matt 4:23 | Beja | 224558 | ||
123, (I tried to post this once and there was some error, forgive me if it double posts.) I contend that the gospel which Jesus Christ preached was this: That men every where repent of their sins and rather than trusting in their own righteousness trust in the attoning sacrificial death of Jesus Christ; and that this was their only means of escaping the coming judgement of God. Now let me defend this. 1.) That men everywhere should repent Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Mar 1:15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." This next one should be of particular interest to you. Just after Jesus sends out his disciples for the preaching, it reports this: Mar 6:12 They went out and preached that men should repent. 2.) That he called them to cease trusting in their own righteousness. Luke18:9-14 This story is to large to quote here but I urge you to see if Jesus did not clearly rebuke people from trusting in any righteousness of their own for justification before God. We see clearly these are the target of this parable in verse 9. Luk 18:9 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous... 3.) That they trust rather in the attoning sacrificial death of Jesus Christ. This one will be slightly more challenging to show because Jesus often concealed it in parables, but I think we can show it presuasively enough. Mar 1:15 and saying, "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." This gospel we clearly have defined elsewhere though I think primarily outside the gospels. But lets look at additional passages. John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.(ESV) Here we see Christ clearly as the solution to the wrath of God rather than our own righteousness. Joh 3:14,15 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life." (ESV) Here we again not only see that belief in Jesus is the answer in opposition to our own righteousness but we also see his crucifiction as central to this. One last passage for this point: Luke 22:37 "For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors.' For what is written about me has its fulfilment." Now here he is quoting Isaiah 53:12. I know that you want 'just' the gospels in this but I think you'd not be rightly exegeting this passage without looking at the verse in Isaiah which Jesus is quoting. So here is Isaiah 53:12 Isaiah 53:12 Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors." Now look carefully at this. Because in Luke 22:37 Jesus clearly claimed that this verse was referring to Him. So what do we see from this to show us how Jesus himself saw His own ministry? He saw that through pouring out His own soul to death and being numbered as a transgressor HE WAS BEARING THE SINS OF MANY AND MAKING INTERCESSION FOR THE TRANSGRESSORS. Christ was teaching clearly that his death was a sacrificial substituation for us. And through his death the many are made righteous. Isaiah 53:11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities. 4.) This was their escape from the judgement of God. I only offer this verse from John the Baptist, because anybody who honestly reads the gospels but once should be clear that whatever this gospel is it is the means which we are spared God's wrath. Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, "You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? I think my assertion is sufficiently established. I hope this helps. In Christ, Beja |
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222 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223131 | ||
Doc, Not sure if you would consider this part of one of those three, but if not might I add the universal accountability of mankind as violators fo the law. Or as Romans 3:19 phrases it, "so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God." In Christ, Beja |
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223 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223194 | ||
I would so very much love to hear that verse discussed well. On the surface its not so very hard to understand but I have always felt I was missing some of the deeper meaning there in how he was trying to explain the law's function in this metaphor. In Christ, Beja |
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224 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223202 | ||
Lightedsteps, What is "the word?" In Christ, Beja |
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225 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223210 | ||
Lightedsteps, You stated: Many might say that the ("GLASS" - "MIRROR") is a metaphor for the law, but when we look at the passage where this metaphor is used, we see it is not speaking about the law, "but the engrafted word", therefore the mirror should not used as a metaphor for the law Having made that statement, you have essentially said that the "word" in that passage, which people look into and then forget, is not the law. If it is not the law, then you must be suggesting it is something else. What is that something else in the James passage? What is the "word" in that specific context. I hope this clarifies. In Christ, Beja |
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226 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223216 | ||
Lightedsteps, You gave me three answers, it is my assumption you meant those as all references to the same thing. So when James says, "But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks at his natural face in a mirror; for once he has looked at himself and gone away, he has immediately forgotten what kind of person he was. But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does." So you are saying that James is trying to get them to be a "doer of the gospel," not merely a hearer of it? In Christ, Beja |
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227 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223222 | ||
Lightedsteps, Three thoughts. 1. How do we be "doers of the gospel?" 2. Do you see no distinction between doing the Law because it is right, from doing the law in order to earn salvation? How can we suggest that the Law was a perfect expression of rightousness, and God will judge lost people for not living up to it, yet once Christ saves us by perfectly fulfilling that law for us, and paying the penalty for our transgressing that law, shall we then say that having been saved we ought not to live in accordance to the Law of God, even though we are in no way attempting to earn salvation through it? 3. I highly urge you to read Marrow of Modern Divinity, it discusses these very things in great detail. In Christ, Beja |
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228 | SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH | Matt 5:17 | Beja | 223253 | ||
Lightedsteps, I certainly can't blame you for quoting him. He's certainly a much wiser man than I am. And I've enjoyed reading what he has to say about many a passage. I'll give this passage a closer look as time permits me. In Christ, Beja |
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229 | Are the "people" in Matt. 13 unsaveable? | Matt 13:36 | Beja | 207816 | ||
It seems clear to me from this and your other post that you believe that those who die without Christ in this life are later restored after the second judgement and enter heaven with the saved. If I'm wrong do correct me please. You cite verses such as rev 20:13 saying that death and Hades gave up the dead. However, just two versus later he tells us that these people were then judged and thrown into the lake of fire. They won't be getting a second chance and taught how not to sin. One key to understanding correct teaching on the eternal punishment of the lost is to understand that the "lake of fire" and hades is two different places. Whatever translation you are using is calling hades, hell. The real word is hades in verse 13. This is a temporary place until hades and all who are in it are then thrown into the lake of fire. Rev 20:14-15. Matthew 25:46 says that the lost were sent away to "eternal punishment." Not a time of punishment until restored. On another note, what Bible translation are you using? |
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230 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | Beja | 213494 | ||
I respond to an earlier post in this thread but I make this post thinking of many things in it. To those who would correct Robert, and I ask you to consider what I say from love's eyes, he has shared with us the sin that his son lives in and scripture is clear. But for love's sake realize that you can not simply come to him with verses of scripture. You are not trying to persuade him simply of some abstract piece of theology or doctrine, what you are trying to persuade him of is that his son, his own flesh and blood, is not welcomed in the church, lost, whatever it is each of you are try to persuade him of. If your heart will not weap for it as his, he will not hear you. Let us teach with gentleness and compassion. Next, Robert, there are hard truths that are going to be hard for you to hear. Though it is with no joy and with pain that I say it, I direct your attention to 1 Corinthians 5:9-12. In this Paul says if a so called brother is immorral we are not to associate with him, not even to eat with him. This word immorral is not referring to general sin but refers specifically to sexual immorrality. Now that is certainly not the only sin on the list, but it is among them, and it is a command. We can not discard it for compassion's sake. I will gladly speak with, eat with, walk with, and spend time with a homosexual. The sin itself does not scare me away from loving a person at all. But the moment that person calls themself a Christian, I am obligated to step away and not associate with them. Why? Because now it is an issue of slandering the teaching of Jesus Christ. Just as in Romans it says, "As it is written My name is slandered among the gentiles all day long because of you." This is a neccessity for two reasons. First is because the world must plainly see that Christ has no part in that. That His teachings do not permit that. Second, we must teach an errant brother that to follow Christ means to turn from his sin. Ofcourse he will make mistakes, but deciding to just live in it isn't acceptable to Christ or us. Do we take joy in doing this? No! On the contrary it breaks our hearts, but love compels us to it, not judgement or hate! We care too much for him and his soulnot to try to push him to repentance. Beyond that we must for the sake of obedience to this command in 1 Cor 5. Now, I speak for myself in this next thing, and I pray I do not teach against God, but I personally expect direct family members to still have contact and time with such people. If nothing else to continually remind them that the Church is longing for their repentence and return so that they do not mistakenly interpret it as hate. Do not in your hurt accuse wrong doing on the Church. Next, let us not think that because a person will cling to sin through persecution that it is therefore not sinful lusts or worldliness. How many times as we read the prophets do we see God go through the acts of "punish then call to repent", "punish then call to repent"; only to be met with absolute committment to sin. Finally let me say something about the discussion regarding the law that has come up in this thread. And keep in mind that we are talking about the moral aspects of it, not the ordinances such as not eating pork and sacrifices. In Romans chapter 3 verse 19 Paul states for us the purpose of the Law. "Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God." The point of the law was so that all those not under grace, would see the law and when they saw its drastic demand for perfection, their mouths would be closed meaning that they could say nothing at all in their defense. That is because each would see with clarity that they are a sinner in need of saving. But let us consider what it is that God sent to accomplish this. Was it not perfection? Was it not the very standard by which we can measure Christ's life and say he was perfect? So while what he sent was meant to show us we can not obey, we have to stop and realize that the very thing he sent to accomplish that is an elaborate picture of what perfect righteousness looks like. Therefore even though the law has completely lost its ability to condemn any person in Christ, the law can never completely loose its value! For even after it can no longer condemn us does not a perfect picture of Godly righteousness have value to teach us still? Now that you are set free in Christ (because you could not measure up to His perfection on your own), will you turn to something else to show you perfection? Understand then that Christ overcame the moral law, that Christ disarmed the moral law from its power to condemn those who have faith in Him, but never teach that Christ came to abolish the moral law. "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill." Matthew 5:17 |
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231 | How Holy Is Marriage? | Matt 16:6 | Beja | 213625 | ||
Kcabm14, This is not new, this is not something God started doing differently or some progression in judgement. This is how God always dealt. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin." The Exodus 20:5 statement of the iniquities of the fathers being visited on his decendents needs to be interpreted in light of this. However, your statements about applying this truth to his situation was very well done. In love, Beja |
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232 | Explain Matt. 18:15-18 | Matt 18:15 | Beja | 227711 | ||
Mac702, I don't think this was meant to be about problems with those outside the church or in any way giving permission to settle Christian disputes by unbelieving law courts. I'd recommend you give some thought to how verse 17 shapes this. We are to tell it specifically to the church, and if they don't listen they are to be as a gentile or tax collector. That doesn't even make sense if he is telling them to go to a court of law. 1Co 6:1 Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints? 1Co 6:2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 1Co 6:3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 1Co 6:4 So if you have law courts dealing with matters of this life, do you appoint them as judges who are of no account in the church? 1Co 6:5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not among you one wise man who will be able to decide between his brethren, 1Co 6:6 but brother goes to law with brother, and that before unbelievers? 1Co 6:7 Actually, then, it is already a defeat for you, that you have lawsuits with one another. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be defrauded? In Christ, Beja |
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233 | Offended by a Christian | Matt 18:35 | Beja | 207901 | ||
Milen, Let me add something to what has been said thus far. First there is a question that matters a lot. Is this a person who is really and sincerely saying they are sorry? Bowler's answer was a great one if it was a person who was not actually sorry and just using forgiveness as a means to facilitate sin. If that is really the case, stick with his answer. However, if this person is sincere in repenting and asking forgiveness then you are searching for an answer that doesn't exist. Because you have the responsibility as a Christian to forgive him. In short, if he is being sincere then he is actually right. None of us can show you a scripture that says you don't have to forgive somebody who seeks forgiveness. It just isn't there. It may be God has allowed this person to put you in this situation so that you can learn the virtue of forgiveness. But, as I said, this is dependent on the answer to the question. Is he really seeking forgiveness or playing games? |
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234 | Love towards fellow man inspite of flaws | Matt 22:39 | Beja | 235018 | ||
"All men are endued with rational and immortal souls, with the understandings and wills capable of the highest and most excellent things; and if they be at the present disordered, and put out of tune by wickedness and folly, this may indeed move our compassion, but ought not, in reason, to extinguish our love. When we see a person of rugged humour, and perverse disposition, full of malice and dissimulation, very foolish and very proud, it is hard to fall in love with an object that presents itself unto us under an idea so little grateful and lovely. But when we shall consider these evil qualities as the diseases and distempers of a soul wich, in itself, is capable of all that wisdom and goodness wherewith the best of saints have ever been adorned, and which may, one day, come to be raised unto such heights of perfection as shall render it a fit companion ofr the holy angels, this will turn our aversion into pity, and make us behold him with such resentments as we should have when we look upon a beautiful body that was mangled with wounds, or disfigured by some loathsome disease: and however we hate the vices, we shall not cease to love the man." -Henry Scougal in The Life of God in the Soul of Man. | ||||||
235 | What makes a tithe a tithe? | Matt 23:23 | Beja | 225682 | ||
Gary, Some of what you said I agree with. Sacrificial giving is certainly in many cases more than a tithe. But where does scripture teach equal sacrifice? I admit, my first thoughts are that this sounds like twisting scripture to support left wing political notions. However, I hold off on that and ask whether you can support this from scripture in case I am wrong. I will happily be corrected by scripture. In Christ, Beja |
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236 | On tribulation time | Matt 24:29 | Beja | 223467 | ||
Searcher, Good list! In interest of completeness, Amillinialism believes that the final tribulation is something christians will go through all of similiar to posttribulationist view, only they do not believe this period is a set seven years. In Christ, Beja |
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237 | What is 'the fruit of the vine'? | Matt 26:29 | Beja | 226703 | ||
Tim, I enjoyed your post very much. Especially I enjoyed hearing of your diligence in understanding the word. I think you have grabbed hold of something important here in your emphasis on Christ. However, let me add a little more food for thought. While it is true, that the significance was that it was from Christ, the source, yet the fact that it was his blood mattered as well. We can not take it so far to say that Christ's tears would have been sufficient, or his hair, or anything else and treat it as if it was sufficient to redeem us. The blood was significant for two reasons. First, as you noted so well, it was important because of the source, because it was Christ's blood. Second, it was important because the blood of Christ was the life of Christ. Lev 17:11 'For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes atonement.' So the blood was important because of the fact that for him to give his blood for us was to give his life for us. Him cutting his hand and sharing a bit of the fluid was not the point. The point is him pouring out his life on our behalf. I hope this goes to your further edification and I hope to hear more from you on the forums. In Christ, Beja |
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238 | God can't die or look on sin! | Matt 27:46 | Beja | 225416 | ||
CDBJ, Honestly I think we are missunderstanding what is being taught. What are we saying in that God can't look upon sin? Are we saying He isn't aware of it? Ofcourse not. Are we saying that he is physically turning his face away? How can He when he isn't physical? The notion that this is teaching that God can't in some way be aware of sin or turns his face is an error in my estimation. The point is that he can't stand by idly. He can't just look at it; He must judge sin. He must deal with it. Which is exactly what He did. There is therefore no puzzle to be answered. What was the second person of the trinity doing while the Father imputed sin upon Christ? He was suffering and dying for that sin. In Christ, Beja |
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239 | God can't die or look on sin! | Matt 27:46 | Beja | 225424 | ||
CDBJ, We have to ask, what is it that scripture means when it says "He hath made him to be sin." Does it mean that in some way the actual nature of Christ changed? Did his body or form change as our sin was imputed to him? I think we'd agree not. Did in some way his being disposed to righteousness rather than sin change? I think we would agree not. In what sense was he "Made sin" for us? I would argue that this merely means that he was ascribed the punishment and guilt of our sin in a legal sense. Nothing in his nature changed, but merely his legal standing as guilty or innocent before God was altered on our behalf. Then comes the phrase that God can not look upon sin. This as I said in a previous post, means that God must punish sin, not that he in some way can't observe it. It means he can't stand by idly and ignore it. So then, God acted in punishing our sins in Christ. Therefore at no time was the nature of Christ changed nor did any problem arise in the union of his two natures. This is how I understand these things for what it is worth. In Christ, Beja |
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240 | God can't die or look on sin! | Matt 27:46 | Beja | 225435 | ||
EdB, Welcome back to the forums and thank you for your kind words. I think you are correct concerning Christ's words from the cross being an echo of the earlier words by David in the Psalm. I think He intended to allude to the entire psalm. One that goes into detail about his torment but ends with confidence in God's ultimate deliverance. In Christ, Beja |
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