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21 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72037 | ||
Hi, Please allow me to copy/paste this from a previous post. This will be in two posts cause it's kinda long. Sorry bout that: I've done some research on who is heaven and have come to this conclusion: The only ones in heaven now are: 1) Enoch and Elijah - Gen. 5:24 and Heb. 11:5 show that Enoch never died. II Kings 2:1-18 records Elijah's translation. Some even went to look for his body but never found it. 2) Moses was resurrected from the grave - Deut. 34:5-7 records his death and burial. Jude 9 would seem to indicate his resurrection. 3) Some of the saints were resurrected at the same time as Jesus Matt. 27:52-53 and were led to heaven when Jesus ascended. In Eph. 4:8 the phrase "led captivity captive" actually translates literally as "led a multitude of captives" without specifying exactly how many are in this "multitude". From your posts I assume that you believe that when a saved person dies that their "soul" or "spirit" (some conscience, thinking feeling part of you) will go into heaven right away. I've done some research on this as well. First of all if there is no resurrection from the dead then there will be no one saved from the grave (I Cor. 15:12-23 - vese 23 even shows that this happens at Jesus' coming.) Please allow me to copy/paste this from some of my research: "Note that Moses appeared (with Elijah) at the mount of transfiguration. Matt. 17:3-4; Mark 9:4-5; Luke 9:30-33. There are some that contend that when you die you will receive your reward right away. If this is true then why is King David still in his grave and has not yet ascended into heaven? Acts 2:29 and 34. Paul stated he would wait until the resurrection to receive his reward of eternal life. II Tim. 4:6-8. Daniel also was told to wait in the grave until the resurrection. Dan. 12:13. Note Job 14:10-15. Remember, death is a total cessation of life, an eternal sleep until the resurrection. Job 14:12 and 19:26. Note that God’s Spirit is His breath; Job 34:14-15 and 27:3; Gen. 2:7; Ps. 104:29-30; Eccl. 12:7. Job knew that he would sleep in the grave until he was resurrected in the flesh. Job 19:26; Isa. 26:19. Read Ps. 146:4 and Eccl. 9:5,6-10. Note that Paul called death "sleep" in Acts 7:60 and so did Jesus in John 11:11-14. Many places in the Bible speak of the resurrection as an awakening out of sleep; Joel 3:9 and 12; Isa. 26:19; Dan. 12:2. Note also verse 18 in I Cor. 15:12-26. If your spirit is your breath (note the margin in James 2:26), and the word translated as "spirit" also means "breath", "wind" and "air", then what about your soul? Can a soul die? Ezek. 18:4 and 20 and Rev. 16:3. Note also that a human has no preeminence above a beast. Eccl. 3:19-21 and that the word translated "creature" in Gen. 1:20,21 and 24 is the same word that was translated as "soul" in Gen. 2:7. So it would seem that the body (dust of the earth) plus the spirit (breath of life) makes a soul (a living creature). When the spirit (or breath) leaves, the body returns to the earth (dust) and the soul (living creature) ceases to exist. During a resurrection the opposite happens, the breath (spirit) returns to the body (dust) and the soul lives again. See Ezek. 37:1-14 esp. vers. 9-14 for an excellent example of how this works. What then about the second death Rev. 20:6 and 14? If death is a sleep, don’t the wicked burn forever? Note that the burning itself is not eternal but the result of it (death and destruction) is. Dan. 12:2; Matt. 25:46 (note that death is the punishment for sin, Rom. 6:23), II Thess. 1:9. In Mal. 4:1-3 the wicked are reduced to ashes. Even Satan is brought to ashes and ceases to exist Ezek. 28:18-19. After their final destruction they die and sleep forever Jer. 51:39 and 57. Note that Sodom and Gomorrah suffered the vengeance of eternal fire Jude 7 but have been reduced to ashes II Peter 2:6 for our example. Note the literal translation of Isa. 66:24 is "their worm shall not yet die, neither shall their fire be yet quenched". That word yet implies that eventually they will die and their fire will be quenched. continued in next post... |
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22 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72038 | ||
continued from previous post... What about the promise Jesus gave to the thief on the cross? "Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." Jesus never lied yet three things show that He did not see that thief in heaven: (1) the Bible definition of death is eternal sleep; (2) after His resurrection (three days after He died) Jesus told Mary Magdalene that He had not yet gone to heaven but that He was going now. John 20:17; (3) That thief did not even die on that day. Note in John 19:31-33 that the thieves were taken down from their crosses while they were still alive and would have been put back on them after the Sabbath was over. What then did Jesus mean when He said, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise”? The words have been translated accurately enough to make no difference, but notice that the original languages of the Bible have no punctuation. All the periods, commas, question marks, colons, etc. (as well as chapter and verse separation) were supplied by humans as they translated the originals into English. Could it be that the punctuation could change the meaning if put in the wrong place? Note again: "Verily I say unto thee, (comma) today shalt thou be with me in paradise". What if the comma has been misplaced and belongs after the word today and not before? "Verily I say unto thee today, thou shalt be with me in paradise". Instead of Jesus promising the thief that they would be in paradise THAT DAY, which was obviously a lie, He said, "I tell you this today (right now), that you will be with me in paradise". This was not a promise to be with Jesus that day in heaven but rather a promise given that day that at some later date the thief would be with Jesus in paradise. So Jesus did not lie and the Bible is still in harmony with itself. A human error was the cause of this confusion." Anyway, I hope this helps. I know I have only scratched the surface here. I have more information on this subject if you're interested. Just ask. David |
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23 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72051 | ||
Sorry I didn't supply the text for that. It's Eph. 2:5-9. Also Rom. 3:24 and 11:5-6 just to name a couple more. There are others as well. If God was not a God of love we would have no hope for eternal life. It's the sacrifice of Jesus that has saved us. John 3:16 and Rom. 6:23 "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23 Faith and works are just two sides of the same coin. We don't do the good works to GET saved. We do the good works BECAUSE we are ALREADY saved. James chapter 2 speaks of this. And also shows that we show the world that we are saved through our works. Naturally the opposite would apply also. Those that refuse to do the good works of faith are showing the world that they ARE NOT saved. |
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24 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72081 | ||
Hi EdB, You might be interested to know that this "death by asphyxiation" would only occur should the victim be crucified with his arms suspended ABOVE his head, not (as in Jesus' case) with the arms stretched out on either side. It could take up to three days for a person to die with the arms outstretched on either side. Death in this manner is the result of the victim going into hypovolemic shock. Death is this manner can be in, a manner of hours, or days depending on the manner in which the victim is affixed to the cross. If the victim is crucified with a small seat, a sedile, affixed to the uptight for minimum support in the region of the buttocks, death can be prolonged for hours and days. If you will recall, Pilate was surprised that Jesus was already dead after just six hours. He had to send someone to go check to make sure. (Mark 15:43-45) Second John 20:17 in the Greek is "haptomai mou me" (touch/cling to, me/mine, not/that not) so it HAS been (the KJV) translated accurately enough. And the word "paradise" in Luke 23:43 is "paradeisos" Strong's #3857 and DOES denote the place where God dwells. (Rev. 2:7) It is another word for heaven. Third "Hades" denotes "the grave", the place where the dead go. It does NOT mean some underground place where living souls are. And the parable of the rich man and Lazarus was just that (a parable). It was not a literal account of things. Consider that a man's arm could not literally stretch across this great gulf. Much less would a couple of drops of water ease the suffering of anyone in a place of perpetual burning. Jesus said this story to show that those that live a life of pleasure (at the expense of others) in this life would end up suffering the final penaly for sin. While those that lived a life of suffering (for Jesus' sake) would enherit eternal life. And finally II Cor. 5:8 I take to mean "absent from the fleshly desires of the body". Note verse 7 "we walk by faith not by sight" (these things are spiritualy discerned) and verse 10 shows that he is talking about "things done in the body". He is not talking about being physiacally dead. Another verse in Col. 2:5 shows that "absent in the flesh yet am present in the spirit" simply means that his physical presence is not there with them at that time yet his (Paul's) spirit is. Much in the way that you might think about someone (wishing you were with them) yet you are physically apart from them. |
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25 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72083 | ||
Aften1, the prophecy in Dan. 12:9 states that these things would be sealed "until the time of the end". And Rev. 10 shows that the time has come for these things to be unsealed. The book in the angel's hand is "open" (unsealed) and it is a book of prophecy (verse 11). Ezekiel was given the gift of prophecy the same way as described here in Rev. 10 (Ezek. 2:9 through 3:4). If you let the Bible interpret itself these things mentioned in the prophecies are easy to understand. You asked, "How can you reform Christianity when you do not know the mind or will of God on these matters?" The answer is simple. If the Bible warns of things that people are doing wrong then it is the duty of God's people to warn them. Isa. 58:1 and Ezek. 33:7-9 are but two examples. |
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26 | Is the devil a personification of my sin | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72085 | ||
Yes, the devil is a real person. Isa. 14:12-20; Ezek. 28:13-19. Who was it that tempted Jesus in the wilderness? Matt. 4:1-11; Luke 4:1-13. I can't think of where it is right now but even Jesus said that he saw Satan fall from heaven. And Paul said the devil is transformed into an angel of light. (II Cor. 11:14). Rev. 12 even records a war in heaven between Michael and His angels and Satan and his angels. | ||||||
27 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72106 | ||
The codes for unsealing the prophecies are all throughout the Bible. The catch is, "they are spiritually discerned". By mocking and making fun of things that go against your own belief you show me that you will never understand this. If you let the Bible interpret itself you would understand the prophecies of Revelation. "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." All souls die. Only those that are saved have any hope in taking part in the resurrection of life. And I never said the Ten Commandments are "Ten Warnings" where do you get that from? |
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28 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72175 | ||
EdB, I got that information about crucifixion from a website. I don't remember which one though. They did a study where some students agreed to be tied to crosses in the same position that Jesus was crucufied. No problems with breathing. They began to have problems with their internal organs though. Do a google search if you're really interested in knowing more about this. Anybody who reads John 20:17 can see that you are attempting to rewrite scripture here. Read it for yourself. Then read Luke 24:38-39 and see that they COULD touch Him then. If Mary couldn't touch Him right after His resurrection because He had not yet presented Himself to the Father yet later on that same day His disciples COULD touch Him, then He must have gone to heaven in between the two times that Mary saw Him and His disciples saw Him. Then 40 days later He went to heaven in front of everybody. Then there was the time he saw Paul on the road to Damascus. There were obvoiusly times when He was coming and going between earth and heaven. This teaching in John 20:17 does in no way deny His ascension 40 days later. I did not say that the parable of the rich man and Lazarus was not true. I said it was a parable and not to be taken literally. Let's consider your version of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus: 1) I assume that you believe that they were "disembodied" spirits or souls? What effect would a hot dry place have on such a being? For that matter what would a couple drops of water do to this creature? In order for these physical things to have any effect of the rich man, he would have to be "in the flesh". He could not be a "disembodied" spirit/soul. 2) Consider the other texts I supplied in the above 2 part post. Specifically Ps. 146:3 and Eccl. 9:5-6. The thoughts and emotions of the dead are "perished". How could the dead have a conversation between themselves if they are unable to think or feel? 3) If the saved in "Abraham's bosom" all accompanied Jesus at His ascension then why is King David still in his grave and has not ascended into heaven? Acts 2:29 and 34 Anyway, why don't you read my post up there and check out the references I supplied on what the Bible teaches about the state of the dead. You will see that they don't match up with your version of the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. And, also, I havent't taken II Cor. 5:8 out of context. Read verses 6, 9, 10, 15 and 16. He is talking about the lusts of the flesh here. Can't you see that? Also compare verse 17 here with 7:1. There are plenty of Bible verse that teach that to follow our fleshly desires will seperate us from God. Do yourself a favor Ed. Do a little research into every verse you can find in the Bible concerning the state of the dead. There is quite a thread to be found there if you're interested. Don't let your indoctrinated beliefs influence your thinking. Let the Bible teach you what it is really saying. I can tell that you haven't really done that. I urge you to try it for once. It may take you a few days to look into, but I think you will benefit from it. If you have a good concordance, check out the words sleep/sleepeth, awake/awaken/awakened, dead/death, grave, resurrection, etc. I think you will be surprised what you will find. |
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29 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72182 | ||
I'm sorry. I thought you would be interested in an intellectual study of what the Bible might say about the state of the dead. If you want to insult me and be sarcastic and ignore the texts I supplied for you then that's up to you. I wish you well anyway. God bless and I hope you will come to the truth soon. You won't listen to me about it so I guess this discussion is at an end. Sorry. And no, I'm not a Jehovah's Witness. I believe that Jesus is my Creator (not a created being). |
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30 | What is the time of the tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72184 | ||
Again, Pemican, I ask you to supply your references for these things you are saying. | ||||||
31 | What is the time of the tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72185 | ||
Rev. 18:8 with Isa. 34:8 and 63:4 states it will only last for one year. Matt. 24:21-22 shows that this time period will be even shorter that that else no flesh would be saved. | ||||||
32 | Do we go directly to Heaven? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72187 | ||
EdB, read what the OT prophets have said concerning the state of the dead. Then tell me what the parable of the rich man and Lazarus means. Until then I agree that there is no reason for us to continue this discussion. | ||||||
33 | What is the time of the tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72213 | ||
OK Pemican, I see where you're coming from now. Have you researched Dan. 9:24-27 in the original languages? Anyway, if you read the text, you can see that it doesn't mention anywhere in there that the last week of the 70 weeks are divided from the first 69 weeks by another time period. Rather consider what is to occur throughout the entire 70 weeks in verse 24. One of them is "to make reconciliation for iniquity". This could only be the death of Jesus on the cross. Now consider verse 25. The starting point of the 70 weeks is given here. The "command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem". There are three recorded decrees for this. The last one (and the one that actually prompted the Jewish migration to Jerusalem with the intent to rebuild it) is recorded in Ezra 6:3 and dates to the year 457 B.C. Seven weeks later (49 years) the streets and walls of Jerusalem were built (408 B.C. - look it up). 62 weeks after that (434 years) would bring us to the Messiah - the "Annointed One" (I'm still in verse 25). This brings us to the year 27 A.D. (remember there was no zero year - 1 A.D. came after 1 B.C.). It's pretty much well know that Jesus was born late Sept./early Oct. in the year 4 B.C. At this time the old Levitical laws were still in effect and a Priest or Prophet would begin His public ministry when He turned 30 years of age. Jesus was baptised/annointed when he turned 30 on the year 27 A.D. (coincidence?). The first 69 weeks of the 70 is now over. Now go back to verse 24 and (knowing that Jesus had not yet been crucified in 27 A.D.) that the "reconciliation for iniquity" had not yet happened. Yet it belongs in the 70 weeks. Now consider verse 27. "In the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease." The "sacrifice and oblation" ("zebach minchah" in Hebrew) refer to the sacrificial services of the old Levitical laws (Look it up). Jesus' public ministery lasted for 3 1/2 years at the end of which He was crucified and the Levitical sacrificial system ended (another coincidence?). Also consider the "overspreading of abominations He shall make it desolate" is NOT the "abomination of desolation" mentioned in others parts of Daniel or in Matt. 24. From the way it is worded (even in the Hebrew - "shiqquwts shamen") it shows a "desolation (or destruction) of abomination". This also happened at Jesus' crucifixion (the Jewish sacrificial system had become corrupted and WAS an abomination at this time). Jesus' death on the cross destroyed it (made it desolate). No offense to anyone, but I'm starting to wonder if this forum is not church affiliated in any way. I thought at first that it might be a forum or group of people interested in studying the Bible, but I'm seeing a lot of indoctrinated beliefs in here. Not just this thread but in other threads on the forum as well. I've only been here a short time but have seen several instances where some of the plain techings of the Bible are being discarded in favor of indoctrinated beliefs. Has anybody else experienced this also? |
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34 | What is the time of the tribulation? | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72229 | ||
Thx, Brad. I, too, take II Tim. 2:15 very seriously (as well as Isa. 8:20 and 28:10). I'm glad this forum isn't just another way for some church to further their own agendas. If that were the case I would find a different forum/website (group) to study the Bible with. I believe if we let the Bible tell us what it means (especially some more difficult, hard to understand texts) then we will all, eventually, come to the same truths together. Personally I prefer the KJV of the Bible. I find it is a more accurate translation from the originals than other translations. Still, though, I find it necessary to research the exact literal translation from the originals just in case those that interpreted the KJV might have made some mistakes. I have found a few (but not many) and sometimes this research even shows a deeper meaning to the text than I might have previously thought. Anyway (so far LOL) I like this forum and enjoy having Bible discussions with anyone. Especially if I end up going back to the Bible and looking stuff up and cross referencng them and...LOL. If I seem to be shory tempered, or abrubt or anything in some things I say please forgive me. I don't mean to be that way. We all have personallity flaws that we must work on. Mine is lack of patience and short tempered nature. I also have trouble being tolerant of ignorance. Please forgive me ahead of time if I offend anyone. I'm still wotking on these problems myself. And don't really mean to be so blunt at times. |
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35 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72280 | ||
aften, aften, "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23 Nobody has "gotten it right". And I have yet to find any scriptural support for a "pre-trib rapture". The Bible teaches that the saved are still on the earth during the "great tribulation". They are protected from it. I'm sure a lot of people here can supply enough texts for this. I'm too tired right now but will go through it later with you if you want. David |
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36 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72283 | ||
It will take time to show you all the texts in the Bible that "decifer" the codes of the prophecies. Why don't we start by you showing me from the Bible why you think the prophecies are still "sealed"? And I don't understand what you mean by "channeling spirits". please clarify. |
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37 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72322 | ||
Aften1, you supplied the following texts: "Isaiah 29 10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." If you read the rest of the chapter you will see that these things are hidden from the wicked. Check out verses 13-16. You also supplied this text: "Daniel 12 8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." Again the wicked do not understand but the wise will understand. And verse 9 clearly shows that the words are sealed "till the time of the end". The text in Rev. 1:1 says just the opposite. That these things are not sealed. That John was shown these things and understood what they meant. Nowhere does it state that he (John) "sealed" these things from those he wrote to. In fact verse 3 IMPLIES an understanding. Then your text in Rev. 5:1-2. Again if you read the rest of the chapter you will find that these seals were opened. verses 5 and 9. And chapter 6 even records each of the seven seals being opened. (Well, except for the seventh seal. It gets opened in 8:1). Now consider Amos 3:7, Aften. I Cor. 2:10; Eph. 3:5. There are others as well that show these things ARE revealed to God's people. Even the title of the book of Revelation means "a revealing" not a sealed writing. continued in next post... |
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38 | Finding 'Act as though you have faith' | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72323 | ||
continued from previous post... (for Aften1) Here is a partial list of the codes of the prophecies being interpreted by the Bible itself. There are others as well if you are really interested. If you just let the Bible interpret it's own sayings, you will find that it IS possible to understand what is being said in the prophecies. the sea – denotes peoples, nations, multitudes and tongues (the "then-known" world) Rev. 17:15 the earth – a new world or land unknown in Bible times – Rev. 13:11 and 10:2 the four winds – Blowing winds represent destruction, plagues, wars, etc. – Isa. 40:7 and 24; Hosea 8:7; Matt. 7:27. Winds held back are great destructions held in check by divine intervention – Rev. 7:1-3 beasts – world dominating nations or kingdoms – Dan. 7:23 a beast rising out of the wind-blown sea – a nation or kingdom rising out of political strife and discord (wars between nations) to dominate the world – e.g. Dan. 7:2-3 and Rev. 13:1 a beast rising out of the earth – would be a new nation (previously unknown) rising out of a previously unknown land and dominating the world. – Rev. 13:11, 14 and 16 a king – symbol of the nation which he rules over – Dan. 2:37-39 and 7:17 and 23 horn – nation or kingdom – Dan. 7:24 and 8:3,8 and 20-22 wings - speed or swiftness – Deut. 28:29; Jer. 4:13 symbolic day – a year of real time – Num. 14:34; Ezek. 4:6. Also note the "seventy weeks" of Dan. 9:24 translates literally as "seventy weeks of years". Given seven days per week one symbolic week would be seven years of real time – seven days per week (seventy weeks is 490 years: 7 x 70). see also Isa. 34:8, 61:2 and 63:4 symbolic month – 30 years of real time according to the Hebrew calendar of 30 days per month symbolic year – 360 years of real time according to the Hebrew calendar of 360 days per year time – one symbolic year – Dan. 7:25 and 12:7 time, times and the dividing of time or time, times and a half – would be three and a half symbolic years or 1260 symbolic days – 1260 years of real time the half hour – in Rev. 8:1 is approx. one week of real time (day for a year - 1/2 day (12 hours) equals 1/2 year (6 months) therefore 2 hours equals 1 month (4 weeks), 1 hour equals 2 weeks, 1/2 hour is therefore approx one week) the glorious holy mountain – in Dan. 11:45 is Jerusalem - Dan. 9:16 a Jew – spiritual Israel, a true Christian – Rom. 2:28; Gal. 3:7, 28 and 29 a pure woman – God's people or church – Isa. 62:5; Matt. 25:1; John 3:29; II Cor. 11:2; Rev. 14:4 a wicked woman – a false church a woman riding upon a beast – Rev. 17:1-6 – is therefore a false church using political powers to enforce its religious laws the host and stars of heaven – God's people – Dan. 8:10 and 24 and 12:3 the Prince of the host – Jesus – Dan. 8:11 and 25, 10:21 and 12:1 grass – all living flesh – Isa. 40:6; James 1:10; I Peter 1:24 trees – mighty men of the earth – Judges 9:7-21; Ps. chapt. 1; Ezek. chapt. 17; Dan. 4:20-22; Matt. 3:10 and 12:33 the sword of the Spirit – the Word of God – Heb. 4:12; Eph. 6:17; II Thess. 2:8; Rev. 1:16, 2:16 and 19:15 the cup in God’s hand – symbol of His wrath – Isa. 51:21-23 and 54:8 and 9; Jer. 13:13, 25:15-38 and 51:6-11; Ezek. 23:31-35; Matt. 20:22, 23 and 26:39, 42; Mark 4:36; Luke 22:42; John 18:11; Rev. 14:10 the dregs thereof – would be the last of the cup poured out at the very end (and the most bitter) gold – faith – Job 23:10; Dan. 12:10 I Peter 1:7 gold tried in the fire – faith made perfect in the furnace of affliction – Isa. 48:10 white raiment – clothed in righteousness – Rev. 19:8 eyesalve (enabling one to see) – the anointing of the Holy Spirit and the discerning of good from evil – Rev. 3:18 Anyway, I hope this helps. I know I've only scratched the surface here. There are other texts that "decode" the symbols used in the prophecies, and other symbols as well that I haven't mentioned. This is just a sample of how the Bible interprets itself. Sorry I had to divide this up into two posts. It wouldn't let me submit this all in one post. |
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39 | Pastor Preaching in a Mad way!!!!!! | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72364 | ||
That's a hard question to answer. Of course people are welcome to believe whatever they want to believe. If this pastor is teaching the word of God people are free to believe him or not. Then again if this pastor is only teaching what he believes and it is in contradiction to what the Bible teaches then I would say, "get out". Then there is II Tim. 4:3-4 (among others) that show people looking for teachers to teach them what they want to hear (not what the Bible really says). "Clouds without water?" I would say, "yes". II Peter 2:17 "Carried about of winds?" Jude 12 Read Eph. 4:14 | ||||||
40 | To learn the truth | Bible general Archive 1 | David_24597 | 72374 | ||
In OT times the Jews WERE God's people. They were the fulfillment of God's promise to Abraham for his obedience. God promised to greatly multiply Abraham's seed and to give them the promised land to live in. Also (though I can't quite remember where) God promised him that the saviour would be born in this nation. In NT times God's people are those that choose to follow Him. I believe that a "Jew" is then used as a symbol to indicate a true christian. Rom. 2:28-29 and Gal. 3:7 and 28-29 |
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