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21 | Purpose of this forum? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101380 | ||
BTW, Pastor, thanks for the link. I will check it out tomorrow afternoon. Confused, seeking4truth |
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22 | Any literature? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101336 | ||
DairyLeader, I just emailed you. Thanks. seeking4truth |
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23 | Purpose of this forum? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101334 | ||
Hi Tim, Thanks for the input. Our individual exposures to different churches most likely influences some of our thoughts in this area. Personally, I have been in a number of different churches of a few different denominations so I have had a few different experiences concerning evangelism. But I have not been exposed to everything that is taught in this area. My statements concerning evangelism were never "taught" to me as a formal discourse. They were more implied by statements such as these: "God will reward you for sharing Christ." "If you don't tell your friend, relative, coworker, who will?" "You don't want this person to stand before God on judgement day and say that YOU never told them about Christ, do you?" "If you don't witness, this person's blood and the condemnation of his eternal soul will be upon your hands." I have heard these statements. Granted, I may have traveled in the wrong Christian circles (but ALL of them claim to be right and NONE of them claim to have ANY false teaching). I am inclined to believe that if the fate of an eternal soul is left up to my pitiful attempts to share what little I know (and am still unsure of), then God is much smaller than the Bible portrays Him as being. While I don't deny that I may have a command and some good news to share, I am not even sure of my own fate, let alone a positive influence on someone elses. And frankly, I won't share what I am not reasonably sure of. In closing, I don't want to lay the blame for my doubts and my questions solely at the door of this particular church, denomination, or person. What happens to me in my own faith is, to a large extent, dependant upon me to "study to show myself approved." But I often feel more like the Ethipoian who doesn't have a clue rather than like Paul who could convert Hitler if given the chance. seeking4truth |
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24 | Purpose of this forum? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101303 | ||
Shalor, ***Some do it (make disciples) simply beacuse they were ordered to do it! Maybe. But, from my studies, I doubt that getting a person to say the "sinner's prayer" and then moving on to the next fish in the sea is a valid interpretation of "discipling." No offense to you, but maybe if I had been discipled when I was younger, I would not have the crisis of faith that I am now experiencing. Unfortunately, those who led me to a profession of faith felt that they were finished after I got "saved." Their goal was achieved. Here I am 30 years later with serious doubts and one of the answers put to me is that if I would only get "saved" again, everything will be alright. I think not. No offense, just my human opinion. seeking4truth |
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25 | I'm skeptical | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101300 | ||
Aixen, To repeat another of my posts here, I made a profession of faith in Christ when I was 12. Whether it "took" or not is debateable and I do not wish to debate it at this time. Please see my other posts. seeking4truth |
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26 | Any literature? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101298 | ||
Thank you, DL5. I will seek to be fair and non-argumentative. Again, my goal is to better understand, not to debate. And thanks for the book recommendation. Please read a few of my other posts in this thread to know a little more about me. seeking4truth |
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27 | I'm skeptical | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101297 | ||
Listener, Thanks for your input. Even as I was reading some of these responses that question my own motives for posting here, it occurred to me that maybe we are told to love our enemies because we, being finite, can NEVER see the heart of another and God, being infinite, can. Maybe that qualifies him alone to judge. Just a thought. seeking4truth |
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28 | I'm skeptical | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101293 | ||
Thank you, Tim, for understanding where I am coming from. I am not searching for differences in minutiae. I am searching for concordance between doctrines. In other words, it is not my goal to take a magnifying glass to the scriptures to ensure that every 'i' is dotted and every 't' is crossed. But it is my search to see if there are significant doctrinal differences. Granted, my "significant" may not be your "significant". But, in this case, I was reading where Jesus said that he came to fulfill the Law. But then he seems to teaching AGAINST the revealed Law and I don't see how (at this point in my search) to reconcile it. If Jesus was born under the Law (Gal 4:4), then why did he seem to go against it and give the Jewish leaders reason to accuse him of violating the Law? I am not expecting a thorough, iron-clad, water-proof defense in detail. But I am seeking something to point me in the right direction. Thanks for your response. seeking4truth |
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29 | Any literature? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101292 | ||
Searcher56, That, sir, is what has lead me to my egnimas. I am looking at Jesus saying to hate your family and God's Law in saying to honor them and Paul's teaching to love them, and, frankly, they don't jive. I am not looking at exbiblical literature. I am looking at the scriptures themselves and they (seem) to conflict. All I want to do is to understand the contradiction. God says to honor, Paul says to love, Jesus says to hate. If all three are true, then it is a truth beyond my ability to understand. I admit that some faith is required. But while Christians claim the inerrancy and infallibility of the scriptures, they seem to ignor any seeming contradictions. If I trust in the God of the Bible, I want to be able to share a reason for that trust, not to just brush aside a question or an issue because it does not fit with my personal theology. seeking4truth |
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30 | Family commitment? | Luke 14:26 | seeking4truth | 101262 | ||
Hank, I stated my reason for coming to this forum in my very first post. I've heard that the NASB is the most accurate translation so I want to understand why there seems to be these contradictions in the Bible. I am seeking truth. To me, that means an ideology that does NOT contradict itself. After all, doesn't God say that he is not the author of confusion? If the ideology about God, Jesus, and the Bible is true (as Christians profess), then it would seem to me that there would be no contradictions in what God says (in spite of the fact that Christians do not practice what he says). So, Hank, if you cannot give an honest answer to my question, then you are not welcome to interact with me. Your post reflects the same kind of close-minded ignorance that drives people away from considering God - "Any serious question towards the validity of God and his Word is ridicule." If it is truly truth, it should stand up to close scrutiny. If Jesus' teaching goes against the Law and tells people to hate their own family, then that is the belief system that is at fault, not my problem. Your response demonstrates the typical tactic used by cults - instead of examining the contradiction, attack those who are examining it. Your response is to ignor the question and question my motives. I have stated them. If you have no solid answer, then please go judge someone else. seeking4truth |
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