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21 | purpose driven? | NT general Archive 1 | ngkh | 143344 | ||
Thank you brother for your prayers. May the Lord bless you and the family too. After all we are all walking on the same path. Hope I did not stir up any tsunami here. |
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22 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | ngkh | 163346 | ||
I believe Malachi 3:8-12 might explain if tithe is commanded. 8 “ Will a man rob God? Yet you have robbed Me! But you say, ‘ In what way have we robbed You?’ In tithes and offerings. 9 You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me, Even this whole nation. 10 Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “ If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it. 11 “ And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,” Says the LORD of hosts; 12 And all nations will call you blessed, For you will be a delightful land,” Says the LORD of hosts. I'm not sure about the quantum but I think there are lot of mentions about one tenth in the bible though. There is also a question if the one tenth is net or gross of ones income. In the end its one belief if he wants to pay or not. Even if another man says that it is not a command, no one can judge if he does not want to pay. Its between him and God. Not for us to say. I believe the holy spirit will lead one to it one time or other. |
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23 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | ngkh | 163351 | ||
Hi bro, I would rather think it this way. Jesus said to love your neighbour as you would love yourself and in Mat 25:40 And the King will answer and say to them, Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me. Now if I am going to bless someone in need, what is wrong in giving tithes to the church. Do I need to be commanded by Christ to give to the needy? No. I would think as being a christian I will do all these without asking for justification nor recognition. Justification has nothing to do with tithes. If you believe so, then your are subjecting yourself to the law by such thought . I am giving tithes not because I want justification. I am giving because I love the church and it needs funds to function so that it may bless others as well especially non believers. To me, I believe the 10 percent is just a ball park figure remembering what Paul had said 2Cor 8:12 12 For if there is first a willing mind, it is accepted according to what one has, and not according to what he does not have. I will give (not pay) whatever I can afford. Like I said, its between me and the Lord and no one else. I do not even put my name on the cheque when I handed the tithe to the church so even my pastor does not know I gave. Not necessary. |
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24 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | ngkh | 163437 | ||
Like I said, I don't tithe to be justified just as you say that my giving is a love offering and not tithe. But I wonder, does the difference really matter? Tithe or giving. Is it so important that my contribution must be classified either as tithe or giving? So if I consider the contibution as tithe, then I'm wrong because its the law and I won't be justified but if I say this is an offering , then I am justified? I fail to see the the reason for highlighting justification and the law - to tithe or give an offering. Is God going to say that oh, this is your tithe and that is your offering? Let's examine our own hearts. Have we given? Not classified as tithe but offering or do we hide behind this justification and law issue to satisfy ourselves NOT to give. To me I do not care two hoots what my contribution be called. But I suppose, if one really seek to use tithe as a compelling manner to give to the church, then I will not support that teaching. Neither have my Pastors taught this. Its always freewill. |
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25 | Can you please explain tithing? | Deut 14:1 | ngkh | 163440 | ||
Hi Jeff, Thanks for voicing your disagreement in one of my statement. We all seek the truth and inadvertantly, we all have different ideas or interpretations of the scriptures. We share our thoughts be it right or wrong and stand to be corrected if we are wrong if we see it. That's why we have this topic in the first place- two completely difference in opinions. Why are there so many different denominations? Some are even branded as cults. Who are we to say they are cults. Difference in opinion again. Who can say that one's interpretation is the truth? So if everyone says theirs is the truth, so after almost 2000 years later we ask the very same question that Pontius Pilate asked. What is the truth? I myself see some of my fellow church brothers going overboard in the name of truth. So where do you draw the line? My line is, I believe the holy spirit will always be my guidance in everything I do and when I am having quiet time in the word. Plainly I take my cue from Him. I share, I accept it if I am wrong(convicted). I share, but I do not impress or force on others that I am right. How do I know if I am doing the right thing? Simple acid test. Do I feel at peace or burdened. If I feel burdened, then I believe it's not spiritually led. Again, if we impose on others what we think is right or is the truth, aren't we in a way being judgemental? What would I do in this instance? I will pray for the brother for the Lord's guidance be it to him or even myself (in case I am wrong). That's why I said that it is one's belief cos it's between him and God. Perhaps I'm wrong here but aren't we all trying to do God's job in getting the poor chap to follow what we think is the truth if its the real truth? Are we forgetting Isaiah - Your thoughts are not my thoughts neither are your ways mine. Why not let God lead the poor chap in His own time and ways. So, if one does not believe that he should pay tithe, then let God convict him, not us as men. I will share my thoughts but this will be as far as I go. The question is, are we always right? If we are, then there is nothing more to say. God Bless. |
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26 | Thank you, Doc | Prov 3:5 | ngkh | 155560 | ||
Thank you once again Doc. I believe I can see some light by your second postings. God Bless. |
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27 | Thanks but.... | Matt 12:32 | ngkh | 143891 | ||
Thanks again. God Bless | ||||||
28 | John 4:1-2 | Mark 1:7 | ngkh | 168673 | ||
Hi Jeff, Thanks. It did help indeed. |
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29 | Burn in Hell? | Mark 9:43 | ngkh | 118360 | ||
Read thru all the scriptures adviced (posted) but I still do not see a verse that says you will go to hell if you do not seek Gods salvation. I saw a presentation Heaven's Gate Hell's fire in a church which portray this info. Don't quite agree with the presentation. That is why I would like to refer back to the bible for a verse that say so. Perhaps my question was not clear enough. Sorry | ||||||
30 | Why do i need to love god? | John 3:16 | ngkh | 223538 | ||
Hi, Perhaps a "right being" is a better word instead of "right doing" As Eph 2:8-10 says "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. So question - can salvation be lost if we do not show love to the Father or do any works that shows we love him? Isn't it putting the cart in front of the horse. Why would one give his life to God in the first place? Something good be it hope, love or blessings may have happened, no? Then we are babies. We seek him further through the Word and then relationship begins and we grow. There could be further encounter and you just manifest your love for Him and you will be obedient to the Word. I need not try to love or show love (right doing) but we will love (right being) because He first loved us, Amen? We will then serve according to the gifts He had given us and it will be different if the calling is truly from him. You won't expect accolades from anyone, not even from God when you serve because you do it out of love for him. Amen? It is thus not a "MUST" or "Need" but a "WANT" that builds the relationship and all things that follows with it. This is just my simple personal journey not through any theological studies. Blessings John |
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31 | the Spirit of Truth | John 7:17 | ngkh | 167375 | ||
Dear Brad, Not sure, if I understood your term on mysticism and existentialism. I haved also read Hagin bashing articles over the net but as far as the books that I have read, I do not see much mysticism except for some healing miracles. (does this constitute as mystic?) In your term of existentialism, much of what Hagins wrote is followed by a passage of the scriptures or rather, he expounded on a particular verse or verses. If that is not biblical, I'm not sure what is. I believe he preached Christ and Him crucified. That's one of the reason why I felt my Pastor was teaching "work" - man centered. As far as the books that I read, it has always been Christ centered and remember that I mentioned earlier that I am in total agreement with my Pastor's comment that our efforts, church building is secondary. It should always be Him first. His show. Now please tell me that this thought is wrong and Christ is not preeminent. Anyway, its not for me to talk for Hagins and others. Why are we in this forum. Who post all these comments. Are we not men? Are we not exercising our thoughts in this forum just as the other writers exercising theirs in their books? You might want to go to 1Cor 3:18-23 Btw, in answer.com, discernment is a term used in a Catholic church. Is it correct? |
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32 | Truth | John 7:17 | ngkh | 167395 | ||
Can I assume then that what you have posted is not from your experience nor have you read any of his books and yet you have much against his teaching based on articles given by others. That is one Christian sharing I have yet to comprehend. As I said earlier, I just read his books and I am not his followers nor involved in his movement. What I shared was 1Cor chapters 1-4. But since the mentioned of Hagins...... I wonder if cartoons will come out next. |
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33 | Truth | John 7:17 | ngkh | 167549 | ||
I believe you have mistook me as a follower or member of the movement. I am not. I just read some of his books. That is all. I am not in a position to draw a conclusion let alone defend him. But...... in a hypotical defamation case. In US laws I wonder if the defence of justification hold water if I tell the judge that my view of so and so is true because I read some articles which was written by some people that I got from the net which also include bibligraphical citations / references which I have not personally seen nor read the book. Even if it is true. I would appreciate if you would explain to me the whole chapter of Romans 14. I am not here to debate. Just felt a bit sad that it comes from a learned brother/sister. |
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34 | the Spirit of Truth | John 7:17 | ngkh | 167550 | ||
Hi Brad, Thank you for your thoughts. I am surprised that there was much flaks just on the movement. But I'd like to share that the books that I read written by Hagins "Understanding how to fight the good fight of faith" "Moving Mountain faith" (except for the healing thingee) and "Understanding the anointing" - yet to complete reading thus far do not or I am not reading right contains the the accusation brought forward by a bro/sis in another thread. Nor am I in a position to draw a conclusion because I did not read those contraversial books. That's is why I felt that 1Cor 2:18-23 was appropriate and further to that, when I prayed for guidance, I believe the Lord had also led me to the whole chapter of Romans 14 which might serve as a good reminder. My intention for the initial post is to highlight 1Cor2:9-16 i.e. spirit guided. God Bless |
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35 | Appreciate your further thoughts | John 7:17 | ngkh | 167575 | ||
Hi Mitch, Did not mean to add fuel to the fire. Even if the passage was written by some one else, I would have asked the same question because I read that Watchman Nee also expounded on this verse but with a different meaning. I am trying to find the book laying somewhere in my midst :-) Thus when I saw the same scriptures brought up by Bro Markn with a differrent thought, just wanted to see his view on the matter. Would appreciate yours also. Thanks |
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36 | Can we borrow or lend? | Acts | ngkh | 157403 | ||
Thanks Mark. Just needed the assurance that I'm not wrong. | ||||||
37 | Is mankind condemned? | Rom 2:12 | ngkh | 145594 | ||
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38 | does God take away his promise form you | Rom 6:14 | ngkh | 159228 | ||
I'm sorry if I have you wrong. Then.... Philipians 3:12-14 might provide the answer. 12Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. Can you see what I'm getting at? Yes, we are not perfect. Even Paul said the same thing. The difference is 1) you choose to sin and hope for God's grace. 2) You are already in God's grace but due to our carnal mind (flesh) we sin. I'm meant to answer that 2nd part. The anwer probably lies on CHOICE. God Bless |
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39 | Why God allows such tragedy | Rom 8:28 | ngkh | 140871 | ||
Thank you EdB. You've made me realised again how easily I will point fingers at others but myself and how easily I can doubt. However, as my search continues, I believe I am being led to his Grace about giving too. Luke 6:38, Proverbs 11:24-25 Thanks again to all who shared. |
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40 | Sorry | Rom 8:28 | ngkh | 141103 | ||
Dear Pastor Glen, Perhaps I am still trying to see things in my own logical carnal mind or I thought I have completely surrendered myself but in actual fact have not so. Again I may not have humbled myself completely before Him for I stll question when something crops up which I felt is not right. Proverbs 3:5 and 6 had always been in my mind and it crops up to me quite often in my 18 months walk with the Lord. But then again, I find it very difficult to accept certain events as they are. My apology if I have in any way offended you. |
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