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21 | Put St Mark 12:1-12 in laymens terms ? | NT general Archive 1 | Greg Martin | 40624 | ||
Where'd I get that information from? The Bible. Figuratively stoned. Or are you harping on a single word, "all", taking me more literally than you do the Bible? Luke 13:34 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, but you were not willing!" The keepers of the Law are the keepers of the field. They were entrusted with the Father's property. When He sent the messengers (prophets) they killed them. (Don't get all semantical about the use of the word stoned or all - just because I didn't write a thousand words to explain it.) So the Father sent the Son. They were more brutal with Him than with the messengers. They killed Him also. 9 "Therefore what will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and destroy the vinedressers, and give the vineyard to others. The Temple was destroyed, the Pharisees and teachers of the Law were utterly cast out, and the Kingdom given to others, mostly gentiles. In my post I said "Therefore God gave the Church to the gentiles. (or at least to those who were not teachers of the Law and Pharisees)" So I made exception for the Jewish believers. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about ethnicity, race and color. No one ever mentioned those. What is in your heart that you would come from such a perspective? Why do you rage at me and say for the most part what I have already said? You said “It has nothing to do with race, creed, color or national origin” That you include "creed" in that list, is absolutely ridiculous! Creed is a belief. Then you rail on about those who believe are saved. This is true. So why do you say it has nothing to do with creed? Are you parroting some liberal, humanist line or do you not know what is the meaning of the word creed, or both? Main Entry: creed Pronunciation: 'krEd Function: noun Etymology: Middle English crede, from Old English crEda, from Latin credo (first word of the Apostles' and Nicene Creeds), from credere to believe, trust, entrust; akin to Old Irish cretid he believes, Sanskrit srad-dadhAti Date: before 12th century 1 : a brief authoritative formula of religious belief 2 : a set of fundamental beliefs; also : a guiding principle But the fact remains. Israel was blinded in part and the Church given to the gentiles. Read Rom 11. Their branch was taken out. We were grafted in. Don’t be proud of it, you may be taken out just as easily. This is the summary of Rom 11. See also Isa 52:15 Rom 11:7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded. Rom 11:25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. |
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22 | Did Jesus mean this literally? | Matt 5:22 | Greg Martin | 40435 | ||
“but whosoever shall say * Thou fool, shall be * in danger of hell fire.” Moros, esomai enochos eis geenna pur. moros (mo-ros') probably from the base of 3466; TDNT - 4:832,620; adj AV - foolish 7, fool 5, foolishness 1; 13 1) foolish 2) impious, godless esomai (es'-om-ahee) future of 1510; v AV - shall be 151, will be 9, be 6, shall have 6, shall come to pass 4, shall 4, not tr 1, misc 7; 188 1) future first person singular of "to be" enochos (en'-okh-os) from 1758; TDNT - 2:828,286; adj AV - in danger of 5, guilty of 4, subject to 1; 10 1) bound, under obligation, subject to, liable 1a) used of one who is held by, possessed with love, and zeal for anything 1b) in a forensic sense, denoting the connection of a person either with his crime, or with the penalty or trial, or with that against whom or which he has offended 1b1) guilty, worthy of punishment 1b2) guilty of anything 1b3) of the crime 1b4) of the penalty 1b5) liable to this or that tribunal i.e. the punishment to by imposed by this or that tribunal 1b6) of the place where punishment is to be suffered eis (ice) a primary preposition; TDNT - 2:420,211; prep AV - into 573, to 281, unto 207, for 140, in 138, on 58, toward 29, against 26, misc 321; 1773 1) into, unto, to, towards, for, among geenna (gheh'-en-nah) of Hebrew origin 1516 and 2011; TDNT - 1:657,113; n f AV - hell 9, hell fire 3588 4442 3; 12 1) Hell is the place of the future punishment call "Gehenna" or "Gehenna of fire". This was originally the valley of Hinnom, south of Jerusalem, where the filth and dead animals of the city were cast out and burned; a fit symbol of the wicked and their future destruction. pur (poor) a root word; TDNT - 6:928,975; n n AV - fire 73, fiery 1; 74 1) fire |
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23 | Put St Mark 12:1-12 in laymens terms ? | NT general Archive 1 | Greg Martin | 40428 | ||
God sent the prophets but the keepers of the Law and the Temple stoned them all, each one of them. Then He sent His Son and they brutalized Him and killed Him. Therefore God gave the Church to the gentiles. (or at least to those who were not teachers of the Law and pharisees) Jesus became the Capstone, or Cornerstone of the Church. |
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24 | Enjoy a beer | Bible general Archive 1 | Greg Martin | 40426 | ||
John 2:10 And he said to him, "Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!" The good wine is strong drink. Luke 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, "He has a demon.' 34The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, "Look, a glutton and a winebibber, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Jesus drank wine. |
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25 | Earth was without form, and void. | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 40296 | ||
Just be glad I lost the one I tried to post before! | ||||||
26 | Earth was without form, and void. | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 40295 | ||
Absolutely. If He demanded us to know He'd have told us. (Just as He kept the secret of the Western World from the earth until the time of His choosing) But even Engineers love the Word of God! It is our nature to seek out what is there and understand why. I don't suggest accountants and farmers do such study! Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter. |
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27 | How old is the earth scripturally? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 40166 | ||
Side note. Guess what year Methuselah died? The year of the flood! |
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28 | Earth was without form, and void. | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 40163 | ||
Genesis, Jeremiah use Tohu and Bohu, Isaiah uses baqaq and balaq. So I am uneasy about that reference. However, I must say, this is extremely interesting and has thrown me for quite a loop. I'll have to do quite a bit of study and prayer over this one. I question whether Jeremiah is literal or an allusion. But I make no judgment now. I take Gen 1:1-2 to mean that God created the universe and it was tohu (confusion) and bohu (emptiness), before He brought it out of the "imaginary" realm and into the three dimensional "real" realm. If it was empty how could it be confusion? There was clearly a disorganized something that was nothing. When taken with the word rachaph (shake, move, flutter). The Spirit of God fluttered is translated half as "hovered" and half as "moved" How can hover be the same as move? When it is flutter! The motion of flutter is the sinusoidal wave which is described in terms of sin x is equal to (exp(ix) - exp(-ix))/2i all waves have imaginary component. In the imaginary, velocities must necessarily exceed the speed of light, c, as this can only be when in 1/(1-(v**2/c**2))**0.5) v is greater than c. Thus all was created in it's seed as electromagnetic waves, and we know there is nothing in our universe but waves. So when God said "Let there be light" He spoke the Creation from the imaginary into the real. That is He made it cross the line from the imaginary to the real space, as we define it. This could lead one to understand the imaginary as the spirit, and that pervading all of the real. So Jeremiah 23:24 God fills the heaven and earth and John 4:24 God is Spirit. It also explains the "apparent age" of the stars. Some day I'll explain all that...I don't have time right now, especially with so many necessary symbols so arbitrarily and unnecessarily prohibited. |
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29 | who did cain marry? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 39554 | ||
Yes, you are right. I did misunderstand what you were trying to say. You were offering information on yet another false theory and stated that it was as equally nonsensical as the others. I thought you were offering it as a plausible scenerio. So really, if you remove the words "You missed it" then the rest of what I wrote, though not pertaining to you directly, is what I mean to say to any who would believe such a scheme. So don't take it personally. Be a duck. Let it roll off your back. BTW, there is no way to edit a post on this forum, as there is on every other one I've ever seen. Once you say "Go" there's no chance to think better of it. So while all my life being around animals, the word in question is not thought of as "course", but as in Romans 14, though it is not an offense to me (or apparently anyone I personally know - I took a poll after the reaction I got here) but nevertheless, it is to at least two here and so it shall not be used again. |
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30 | who did cain marry? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 39520 | ||
No not Hank, but the original poser of the question. Whom Cain married is not major Bible doctrine, that we all descended from Adam is. The question "Who did Cain marry" is not curiosity about Cain's wife. It is a challenge to the origin of Man. Shock was not a good choice of words (and at least two argue that my original choice of words was also not good) Be that as it may. I noted that Hank was right in saying that those theories are all as good as the others. I expounded on that using exactly what I thought they were worth. On the farm we used that word all the time, and the spring in a cow barn is exactly what I was thinking. The argument was that God created more than just Adam and Eve. This would totally negate the doctrine of original sin. It would, taken to it's extent, lead to the conclusion that either Christ died in vain, or at least that not everyone needs Christ. This is a serious matter and not to be taken lightly. And BTW neither you nor I can save anyone. Only God can do that. But if someone questioning the veracity of the Bible can know in strong terms what he is flirting with, well, label me with Isaiah's disease, and I'll suffer the coal. |
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31 | who did cain marry? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 39393 | ||
Are those kind of words called for? I believe that they were, or I would not have used them. There is no course jestering going on here. I'm deadly serious. And if you can care that little about a man's soul that you can't shock him out of his sleep, maybe you should remain silent, because that's the effect you have. This subject maybe "useless" to you, but it is extremely important to one who questions the Bible, and even to the plan of salvation. It is of vital importance to understand and defend the Genesis account, secondary only to the plan of salvation itself. If doubt occurs in Genesis, then why not in Romans? If you can go to heaven by being good, then why should I try so hard to be "Christian"? The answers are - there would be no reason. None whatsoever. We have been given a plan of salvation that only works if the Genesis account is true. If it is not, then the whole Bible falls apart. Your lack of concern over this topic, portrays a lack of concern about major Bible doctrines, and what's more a lack of concern for your fellow man. If this topic is "useless" to you, why are you in on it? |
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32 | who did cain marry? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 39373 | ||
You're missing it. The plan of salvation can only work if all decended from Adam. If it were any other way, God would have a different plan of salvation. But He does not. He gave us this one and only plan. If there existed other Men created from God's hand, they would not be related to Adam. Even science agrees we have all decended from one mother. If there existed families not related to Adam there would exist people who did not inherit sin. If they did not inherit sin, it would be possible for them to live a sinless life and go to heaven, spotless, blameless, and pure. If this were so they would not need Christ. If they did not need Christ to get to heaven, then we have no excuse, God was a butcher, and Christ died for nothing. Not only that, it would be entirely our choice by works to get to heaven. But further, you would not know if you had the choice or not. You would not know if you decended from Adam or a sinless father. You'd be in a crap-shoot for your eternal life. You are right, though, in saying "One hypothesis does have as much validity as the others" - CRAP! They have the validity of DUNG! The TRUTH, however, surpasses them all. Either the Bible is true and trustworthy or it isn't. Make your choice and live and die by it. If Genesis is not trustworthy, then it becomes a crap-shoot as to what's true and what's not. Pick and choose the parts of the Bible to believe. And if that's the case, you might as well close your book and go home, because it's all a lie. Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned" Through ***one man*** |
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33 | who did cain marry? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 39240 | ||
Oh, yes. Sons of Adam - preferred by nine out of ten patients who chew gum (as opposed to whatever else you might do with gum) Guess that makes us all members of The Adams Family. |
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34 | who did cain marry? | Gen 1:1 | Greg Martin | 39238 | ||
You ask "is it possible that what Genesis is saying is that Adam and Eve are the first people God made, but not the only people God made." No. This can not possibly be whatsoever. Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned" If God had created more than one man, there would be family lines not inheriting Adam's sin. If there existed families not inheriting Adam's sin, then it would be possible for them to get to heaven by living sinless lives. If it were possible for them to get to heaven this way, they would not need Christ. If there were those not needing Christ, then He died in vain, and God is a butcher. Not only that, but there would be those who get to heaven by works, having no need for grace. Further, you would have no excuse, and no recourse. |
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35 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37905 | ||
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36 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37775 | ||
Thanks. I was trying to shorten the sentence without losing anything. The way I did this was not to mean "If you want to then go" but rather "If you want *that* then go and come and follow." And it's still conditional BTW. "Follow Me - If you want to be perfect" You may be satisfied, but I am not. I capitalized the "IF" and the "AND" to show that the sentence began conditional, and the conjuction "AND" is used to join the last clause with the first condition. "IF you want to be perfect then go do this and that AND come follow Me." IF x THEN go and sell and give and come_follow Me Endif |
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37 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37766 | ||
"You said that any time Christ commanded someone directly to follow Him, they had no choice but to obey" Oh, no. I proposed a viewpoint and asked a question. I never once concluded they had no choice. I said the angels and the demons and nature and the universe have no choice. I never said people have no choice. I'm actually on the free will side of this issue. I just don't have an adequate defense of my opinion. And where the Bible is concerned OPINION IS WORTHLESS. But I can't agree with your reasoning on Mt 19:21. The word may be imperative, but the context still is conditional. "ei...thelo ...hupago...kai...deuro...akoloutheo" (IF...you want...go ...AND...come ...follow) So this point is weak, and not convincing proof. The context of the sentence here is "IF YOU WILL THEN GO AND COME FOLLOW" -------------------------------- ei (i) a primary particle of conditionality; conj AV - if 242, whether 20, that 6, not tr 19, misc 3; 290 thelo (thel-o) or ethelo (eth-el-o) in certain tenses otherwise obsolete apparently strengthened from the alternate form of 138; TDNT - 3:44,318; v AV - will/would 159, will/would have 16, desire 13, desirous 3, list 3, to will 2, misc 4; 210 1) to will, have in mind, intend 1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose 1b) to desire, to wish 1c) to love 1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing 1d) to take delight in, have pleasure hupago (hoop-ag-o) from 5259 and 71; TDNT - 8:504,1227; v AV - go 55, go (ones) way 17, go away 3, get thee 3, depart 2, get thee hence 1; 81 1) to lead under, bring under 2) to withdraw one's self, to go away, depart kai (kahee) apparently, a primary particle, having a copulative and sometimes also a cumulative force; conj AV - and 8182, also 515, even 108, both 43, then 20, so 18, likewise 13, not tr. 354, misc 46, vr and 1; 9280 1) and, also, even, indeed, but deuro (dyoo-ro) of uncertain affinity; adv AV - come 6, come hither 2, hitherto 1) of place, 1a) hither to this place 1b) in urging and calling, here! come! 2) of time, hither to, now |
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38 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37749 | ||
In Matt 9:21 Jesus said "If you want to...." In Luke 9:59 We see that Jesus did command "Follow Me" and the man said "yes, but first..." Then v60 Jesus said to him, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God." So this could be an example, but it is not a convincing one because we don't know the result. It does, however, bring to mind Jonah. Jonah 1:1 Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the son of Amittai, saying, 2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry out against it; for their wickedness has come up before Me." 3 But Jonah arose to flee to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. He went down to Joppa, and found a ship going to Tarshish; so he paid the fare, and went down into it, to go with them to Tarshish from the presence of the LORD. this would be a better example. |
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39 | Did the disciples have a choice? | John 15:16 | Greg Martin | 37716 | ||
This is true for us because the Creator of the universe did not command us directly with the spoken Word. These disciples had a very different situation than that which we are in. They were confronted face to face with God speaking a command. If our Creator speaks "Let there be light" and the whole universe obeys and clicks on, how does any other part of His creation do differently? Just as He said "Let there be..." and it was, just as He said "Peace, be still" and it was, He commanded to the disciples "Follow Me." This is not a question or a suggestion. It is a command. He did not say "Would you like to...?" or "If you want to..." and He did not present the option as he did to the rich man, and to others. In the cases I cited, He gave a direct, unambiguous, single option command. Did they then have a choice? BTW, your citing of John 15:16 "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you." seems to be proof opposed to what you are proposing. |
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40 | Why is it that I cannot find Adonai in | OT general | Greg Martin | 37561 | ||
Thanks, wannabe. I inadvertantly left out the translated names. Adonai - Lord (look for: "LORD") YHWH - I Am the One Who Is ("I AM") Elohim - The Mighty One ("God") |
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