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21 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239265 | ||
Hi Beja, I respectfully disagree with your No.2 for this reason. When Christ comes, He's coming with all His Holy ones per Zech.14:5. Col 3:4 says, "When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory." Jude 14 says Christ will come with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones. Rev 19:14 The armies of heaven will follow Christ to earth. All of these Scriptures take place at the end of the Great Tribulation. The question then is: How did these people get to heaven to be able to come down with Christ unless they were resurrected prior to the end of the tribulation? Ed O. | ||||||
22 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239267 | ||
Hi Beja, you say, "1.) Do a search on the greek word for "keep" in Rev 3:10 and see the only other place where John uses the word. Does it mean that he will remove them from the problem or keep them through the midst of it?" ---- That's a good question.---- But my reasons for being a pre-trib are as follows: Why would God want to keep us in the "mist" of all that's going to take place when there's no good reason for Christians to remain down here any more? ---- God already states in Rev 7, that He will have sealed off 144,000 Jewish servants to do His work.---- One of the reasons for us to read the OT is for us to see how God dealt with the people back there.---- He took Noah and his family out before the flood.--- God spared Nineveh when they repented.--- God would have spared Sodom and Gomorrah had there been 10 good people, there were not so He took Lot out.--- There's a pattern of God's mercy being shown here. Shouldn't we expect the same mercy seeing that Jesus' Spirit is within us. 2Cor.2:15 states, we are the aroma of Christ. Also because we trust in Jesus, He thinks much of us, He even says so, speaking to Thomas in John 20:29,"Because you have seem me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." --- Having said all of this and I know that God can do anything but nevertheless, during the Great Tribulation Rev 8:11 states, " Third Part of the waters became wormwood" many died.--- From where would Christians get water? --- Rev 8:8-9 states, Third part of the sea became blood. --- Would you eat any sea food knowing that?--- Rev 9:10 states, Locusts, with the power of scorpions, came upon the earth and stung people for five months.--- How could Christians avoid them?--- Rev 16:9 states, The sun will scorch the earth.--- How could Christians escape that?--- There are more plagues but are you getting the picture? Why would God, as you say, want to keep us in the "mist" of all of this when there would be no reason too?--- In fact rather than having to go through all of this wouldn't be better to be behead and make a quick exit out? ----Now we can play around much with the meaning of words but I hardly believe that God wanted us to become Greek scholars. Sometimes it's better for us to be less intellectual and rely on common sense wouldn't you think so? --- After doing much research on post-trib, mid-trib I'm still a pre-trib. Ed O. |
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23 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239280 | ||
Hi Beja, your question states,"On 'rely on common sense' ... what is your basis? Even if you have studied the three views, it could be clouded by what someone else has said.'" Yes, you are right. but my basis for using common sense is, we all should read the Bible by using common sense by reading what's there. for example: Rev 8:11 states that many men died of wormwood water, my common sense tells me that must include woman too rather than researching the word "men". When we come across a Scripture that its meaning isn't very clear my common sense tells me to rely on other Scriptures that clarifies it for me more so rather than trying to figure out what's the meaning of one word of the verse. Here's another example: Zech 14:5 states when Christ returns all the holy ones will return with Him. My common sense tells me that the holy ones would have had to be resurrected in order to be able to return.---Having said that, there were many times that I had to research a single word when all other means had failed. Ed O. |
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24 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239281 | ||
Hi Beja, you say,"1.) The assertion is that the phrase, "I will keep you from" the hour of trial necessarily means that they will be taken away from this hour of trial so that they will not have to face it." ----Well said. What better place to be but in heaven rather than to face it. Ed O, | ||||||
25 | belief in hell? | Rev 20:15 | Ed O. | 240081 | ||
Edb You state, "However you are correct we do not fully understand how one can be cast into the Lake of Fire and tormented by the fire and yet not be consumed." You are correct we don't understand how can that be, However; we don't understand How Moses saw a burning bush that wasn't consumed by fire, from this account we should know that it's possible even if we don't understand it. Ed O. | ||||||
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