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21 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239267 | ||
Hi Beja, you say, "1.) Do a search on the greek word for "keep" in Rev 3:10 and see the only other place where John uses the word. Does it mean that he will remove them from the problem or keep them through the midst of it?" ---- That's a good question.---- But my reasons for being a pre-trib are as follows: Why would God want to keep us in the "mist" of all that's going to take place when there's no good reason for Christians to remain down here any more? ---- God already states in Rev 7, that He will have sealed off 144,000 Jewish servants to do His work.---- One of the reasons for us to read the OT is for us to see how God dealt with the people back there.---- He took Noah and his family out before the flood.--- God spared Nineveh when they repented.--- God would have spared Sodom and Gomorrah had there been 10 good people, there were not so He took Lot out.--- There's a pattern of God's mercy being shown here. Shouldn't we expect the same mercy seeing that Jesus' Spirit is within us. 2Cor.2:15 states, we are the aroma of Christ. Also because we trust in Jesus, He thinks much of us, He even says so, speaking to Thomas in John 20:29,"Because you have seem me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." --- Having said all of this and I know that God can do anything but nevertheless, during the Great Tribulation Rev 8:11 states, " Third Part of the waters became wormwood" many died.--- From where would Christians get water? --- Rev 8:8-9 states, Third part of the sea became blood. --- Would you eat any sea food knowing that?--- Rev 9:10 states, Locusts, with the power of scorpions, came upon the earth and stung people for five months.--- How could Christians avoid them?--- Rev 16:9 states, The sun will scorch the earth.--- How could Christians escape that?--- There are more plagues but are you getting the picture? Why would God, as you say, want to keep us in the "mist" of all of this when there would be no reason too?--- In fact rather than having to go through all of this wouldn't be better to be behead and make a quick exit out? ----Now we can play around much with the meaning of words but I hardly believe that God wanted us to become Greek scholars. Sometimes it's better for us to be less intellectual and rely on common sense wouldn't you think so? --- After doing much research on post-trib, mid-trib I'm still a pre-trib. Ed O. |
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22 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239265 | ||
Hi Beja, I respectfully disagree with your No.2 for this reason. When Christ comes, He's coming with all His Holy ones per Zech.14:5. Col 3:4 says, "When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory." Jude 14 says Christ will come with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones. Rev 19:14 The armies of heaven will follow Christ to earth. All of these Scriptures take place at the end of the Great Tribulation. The question then is: How did these people get to heaven to be able to come down with Christ unless they were resurrected prior to the end of the tribulation? Ed O. | ||||||
23 | 13 Apostles to sit on 12 thrones? | Bible general Archive 4 | Ed O. | 239264 | ||
Hi Jalek, That's an interesting post. But Jesus is specifically telling his apostles that they will be sitting on the twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel Mat 19:28 and Lk 22:30. Then in Rev.21:10-14 coming down from heaven was the new city of Jerusalem with high walls. It had twelve gates written on them were the twelve tribes of Israel. The wall had twelve foundations, written on them were the names of the twelve apostles. Ed O. | ||||||
24 | First resurrection happens twice | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239239 | ||
Beja, Thanks for your reply. However; I'm a pri-trib believer relying upon these verses. Rev 3:10,which states, "Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth." Also I believe 1Thes 4:13-18 and 5:1-3 takes place prior to the Great Tribulation because it says, Christ will come as a thief in the night, while people are saying "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly. In other words the rapture came and destruction hasn't come yet. Also Christ is to come as a thief in the night (meaning un-expecting). Should he come at the end of the seven year period, one would know exactly when to expect Him. | ||||||
25 | scripture on the rapture of the church | Rev 20:5 | Ed O. | 239237 | ||
Rev.3:10,"Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth."-----This verse makes me a pri-tribber. |
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