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181 | "He erased the certificate of debt" | Col 2:14 | Rowdy | 121996 | ||
In response, I can only quote Col 2:13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle. It seems to me God's Word is very clear. Whenever possible, it seems prudent to take His Word for its straight forward message at face value. I'm afraid I will stand by His Word as being just that, as will most of the christians with whom I worship and know. However, I still pray for you to keep studying and keep an open mind to His guidance and His will. God bless. --Rowdy |
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182 | Rowdy, NO, Answer my question first | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121842 | ||
As I've indicated in my profile, I'm 50 years old. What you don't know, is that I did just turn 50 yesterday. My family and I are celebrating this weekend. Why do you ask? How old are you? God bless. --Rowdy |
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183 | Rowdy, NO, Answer my question first | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121835 | ||
So why don't you fill in the blanks here and tell me how you deal with all the questions I posed in my original post in this thread and all the other questions in between. Think of it as a checklist, and also check out the scriptures I cited. First of all, I'll have to admit as I've done in my other post to Kalos, I don't have all the answers, especially those scriptures that do seem to support your side of the argument moreso than they do mine. But I must admit since the OT is designated Old and the NT is New, I'll go with the regime of our Lord and Master, Savior and Redeemer, Jesus Christ. I do invite you to respond with answers as I indicated above. God bless you, dear friend. --Rowdy |
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184 | From the pen of an antinomian | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121814 | ||
I guess you're seeing the exasperation and frustration of an old man. We keep quoting scriptures to each other back and forth, neither one able to understand how the other came to his own conclusion or interpretation of God's Word. Once again, I'll repeat myself: I'm NOT saying the OT has been destroyed or done away with. I am saying that's its AUTHORITY has been done away by nailing it to the cross with Jesus. I really can't explain to your satisfaction why there's a contrast between the verses you quote and the ones I quote. So I'll guess we'll have to agree to disagree and still walk away as friends. I'm willing to allow the Forum readers/participants read for themselves our posts and the related scriptures and come to their own conclusions. However, I will do my usual and let you have the last word in defending your position. I'm done with this thread, at least for now. God bless in your continued study of this and all the rest of God's Word. --Rowdy |
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185 | Pearls of Wisdom from the pen of bumpas5 | Eph 4:14 | Rowdy | 121776 | ||
Thanks for your note but I've already been schooled by BradK's and Tim's notes on his AKAs. God bless. --Rowdy |
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186 | Pearls of Wisdom from the pen of bumpas5 | Eph 4:14 | Rowdy | 121775 | ||
He did seem a rather "strange bedfellow." I'm glad there are folks watching the flock. God bless you, dear friend. --Rowdy | ||||||
187 | From the pen of an antinomian | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121773 | ||
Is this your way of responding or using God's Word, rightly dividing the Words of Truth? Interesting but I don't see any specific scriptures dealing with the points of my posts and the scriptures I've cited in support. I would have to say this is very close to ridicule and should not be allowed on the Forum but alas for your sake, I'm not a watcher or protector of the Forum. Still, I would invite you to respond like a Christ-like gentleman and offer up scriptures as suggested above. Can you sum up the courage for such a worthy goal? I still pray for God's blessings on your continued study of God's Word. -Rowdy |
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188 | Pearls of Wisdom from the pen of bumpas5 | Eph 4:14 | Rowdy | 121768 | ||
I'm not sure how to respond to this post. Is this done in jest? It seems most of this statement is submitted for entertainment. Portions of it are kinda funny but surely you're not serious about all of it, are you? I also noticed quite a few typos/errors, far more than your usual well written and proofed work. So this was done to show us something of Bumpas5' quality of work, correct? Maybe I'm a little dense, if so, please explain. Thanks. God bless. --Rowdy |
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189 | Old Testament/New Testament | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121751 | ||
I mentioned this kind of response to Kalos a week or so ago as he submitted the same verse in a similar thread of discussion. It's a foregone conclusion for a great number of christians at least in my world that the word fulfill means something entirely different from the way you and Kalos understand it. To me (and them) it simply means that Christ did FULFILL it completely by living the Perfect Life. He proved to His Father and to us His children that perfect obedience to all the Law of Moses could be observed. But just like it means in today's vernacular, when we fulfill something, it means it's complete, we can put it on a shelf. It's a done deal; a complete project, signed, sealed and delivered. That's the most important thing He meant when He said on the cross "It's finished." His ministry had been completed and He took the authority of the OT with him to that cross. So now the AUTHORITY of the OT is dead and notice it didn't get resurrected like our Lord did as it didn't have a life of its own. Matt 28 cites a episode that took place AFTER the cross, His death AND His resurrection so yes, I'm afraid that's exactly what I'm saying. God said in effect He gave ALL authority to His Son to rule this dispensation as He sees fit. And He chose to delegate at least some of that authority when he commissioned the disciples with the endorsement from the Holy Spirit in Acts 2. Christ gave them this delegation of authority in Matt 18:18. God bless. --Rowdy |
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190 | Rowdy What part of the OT do you abolish | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121746 | ||
Now, we're making substantial progress. Although, some of your answers are a little weak as cited but I guess you can see that for yourself. Now all that is left is the few points below: How do you reconcile Paul's teaching in Col 2:14? "If you DON'T do these things, please tell me how do you live by and enforce only a portion of the OT?" You still haven't explained from the scriptures any justification for picking and choosing which portion from the OT and NT you want to follow. Don't you see, the only way a person could possibly defend keeping the OT is to observe the WHOLE thing. "Do you treat the NT similarly in spite of the Lord's command otherwise? I believe we should follow the NT" Your response seems to be contradictory to your previous statement. Do you follow the OT or NT when they're in conflict? i.e. divorce and marriage. Remember we're being honest and Bible based. "Remember He gave Christ the preiminance as mentioned already in Hebrews. He also gave Him all authority. So how do you reconcile Matt 28 AND the transfiguration in Matt 17, Mark 9 and Luke 9? You might notice as I think it's quite significant that all three Gospel writers thought it was significant to mention the detail about God's instruction to them and to us, the whole world "Listen to Him." He didn't say anything about Elijah or Moses who were standing beside Jesus but God says "Listen to His Son." You also haven't completed your response to the story of the transfiguration of Jesus as cited above. How does this square with your putting the OT side by side with the NT when God Almighty clearly said "Listen to Him?" You didn't touch on the contrast between the two, OT and the NT with reference to the day of worship, Sabbath vs. the first day of the week. How can you reconcile these two separate items of guidance? From a previous thread: How do you reconcile the new guidance in the NT concerning forgiveness to our enemies when the OT clearly allows a man to seek retribution, "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth." Matt 5:38-44 vs. Ex 21:24, Lev 24:20 and Deut 19:21. "It all boils down to authority. Who are you, I and the rest of the world going to recognize as having authority in this dispensation? Just as Peter discovered while walking on water, if we'll keep our focus on Jesus, we're great, we can take on the whole world of sin. But if we listen to anyone else and take our focus off Him, then we lose our balance and have to depend on His mercy. He would much rather see us grow spiritually and learn to rely on Him instead of "falling into the hand of God" unprepared." I know it wasn't a specific point in my post but I alluded to the concept briefly just above. How do you reconcile the fact the NT puts so much emphasis on Christ, indeed God put Him in charge of everything, "all authority" from Matt 28? How does this square with the OT with its obvious emphasis on the Law of Moses? God bless. --Rowdy |
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191 | Rowdy, NO, Answer my question first | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121733 | ||
Searcher, you've been on this Forum since May 2001 and have posted over 6200 posts to the Forum. I really think you're just pulling my chain, right? But maybe it might be beneficial for Forum newcomers to go over this. Go to my post no 121624 and copy it in its entirety and paste it into your response to it. From there, you can answer all my questions with separate paragraphs and scriptures in support. Natually, you can delete all my statements, just deal with my questions. If you wish to discuss or argue about my statements, I would suggest the same procedure except delete what you like and leave my statements for reference. You can make your counter statements with scriptures in support. I do hope this game of tag is going to stop now. I'm looking forward to a really good exchange of posts reflecting our maturity and respect for God's Word and each other. God bless. --Rowdy |
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192 | Old Testament/New Testament | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121731 | ||
Searcher, I know you're a better Bible student than this. Why are you playing these games? Copied for reference: "He also gave Him all authority. So how do you reconcile Matt 28 AND the transfiguration in Matt 17, Mark 9 and Luke 9? You might notice as I think it's quite significant that all three Gospel writers thought it was significant to mention the detail about God's instruction to them and to us, the whole world 'Listen to Him.' He didn't say anything about Elijah or Moses who were standing beside Jesus but God says 'Listen to His Son.'" Let's agree to act with some modicum of maturity and get to the actual issues at hand. Please respond to the points of my post as ALL the scriptures have been provided in the past. I'm sure you know them as well as I do. God bless. --Rowdy |
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193 | Rowdy, NO, Answer my question first | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121729 | ||
The concept obsolete is clearly implied by assigning the word Old to that collection, especially when the word New is assigned to the Gospels and the other NT writings. Repeated for reference: "Now I need to emphasize I'm not saying we can dismiss the OT entirely. As Kalos has stated so eloquently, the OT is quoted extensively throughout the NT as Jesus was the fulfillment of the prophecies contained in the OT. What I am saying is that the OT has no place in our lives to speak with AUTHORITY about religious issues, especially with regard to the differences we see between the OT and the NT. Jesus and Jesus alone is the Authority as His Words AND the Words spoken and written by His official representatives, the Apostles were blessed as being authoritative by Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit. Thus the OT is a wonderful and majestic document, compelling in its teaching and history, showing us how God dealt with His children then and giving us a glimpse of how He'll deal with us in our future. The OT helps us understand the NT for that's where most of the NT writers originated. Thus their background and their secondary motivation is better understood. BUT their primary focus and motivation was the Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ." I think I've also answered rather thoroughly your other question. I'm NOT (repeat) I'm NOT suggesting abolishing the OT; quite the opposite as shown above. What I AM DEFINITELY saying is only that which comes from God, Jesus and His Apostles: The AUTHORITY for the OT is GONE; it is no more so that the OT is no longer on a par with the NT. I keep repeating myself until I begin to look like an idiot. Why is it you keep forcing me to do this? Please look over my previous post; it's clear and straight forward. It's simple with several Bible scriptures in clear support. I await your more thorough response. God bless. --Rowdy |
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194 | Rowdy, NO, Answer my question first | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121725 | ||
I acknowledge your post but this is kind of a weak response to my statement. Do you have more coming? How about addressing all the scriptures and the points in my original post on this thread and all the ones in between. I was really expecting a much more thorough response, point by point. God bless. --Rowdy | ||||||
195 | God is one | Gal 4:4 | Rowdy | 121724 | ||
Norm, I gotta admit Hank is quite right. As I see it, you're out on a very dangerous limb here. Your statement appears to NOT be a typo but you appear to be serious. Please tell us you were ill that day and made bad call. Your statement as it is, sounds completely luny. I do hope you'll reconsider. God bless. --Rowdy | ||||||
196 | God is one | Bible general Archive 2 | Rowdy | 121723 | ||
Good, solid answer. God bless. --Rowdy | ||||||
197 | Called According To HIS Purpose-Ministry | 2 Tim 2:15 | Rowdy | 121654 | ||
I can only respond from my perspective. I've been a Bible student and a christian most all my life, but I must admit I've had to do more Bible studying in these last few months than I had in the previous 5 years. Especiallly tough for me is the controversial issues that plague Christianity. Again, since these issues are real and we all on the Forum believe strong in the Bible, we all gain and continue to learn a great deal. I have a goal of becoming a deacon in the near future and a long range goal of becoming an elder so I find this Forum to be tremendously beneficial to me as a "training ground" and get me some experience as well as the opportunity to grow in confidence and handling God's Word. I'd recommend that you stick with the Forum for similar reasons. I think you'd be benefitted also. But regardless of your decision, God bless in your struggle and growth toward the Lord. --Rowdy |
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198 | Purpose of Prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | Rowdy | 121627 | ||
Miss JW, Apparently you and the others of your faith are getting a lot of heat because of your background. I thought I'd try to help you and some others get to the actual root cause of all the controversy. You see, here at the Study Bible Forum, ALL of us believe in ALL of the Bible and the Bible's most emphatic point to us modern earth dwellers in this century is that Jesus Christ is the Living God in charge of this world. He came to this planet of sinful man for the express purpose of saving the souls of ALL mankind, past, present and future with His Perfect sacrifice of His own sinless body and life. IF a person come to the SBF to discuss and exchange views and ideas about all the above, it MUST be done WITH the acknowledgement of that previous statement being ABSOLUTE TRUTH. If we can't get that acknowledgement up front in advance from such a person, everything else is valueless and not really worthy of discussion by anyone, at least to those on the Forum. Now, I myself had absolutely nothing to do with drafting up the rules to the Forum but I try to abide by them. I know Hank and some of the others don't like it when I fail to cite book, chapter and verse when I make a statement but that's because I've cited it before in a previous post. Anyway, we ALL from an early age in life learn that we must play by the rules when we join an organization. Now your decision is really quite simple: either acknowledge the ABSOLUTE TRUTH of the statements above or refrain from posting statements of your own to the Forum. That of course DOES NOT mean that you can't read and enjoy the posts you see on the Forum. Also some of the folks on the Forum cite their own E-Mail address so you could attempt to communicate directly with them in that manner. Now the basic reason for this rigid requirement is simply to keep the Forum in some semblance of order and you know we're commanded to do that, 1 Cor 14:40. Without giving Christ His due according to His Last Will and Testament, we ALL do Him a serious dishonor and we would have to pay dearly for such an infraction at Judgment Day. There's one more subject of interest: Cults. There's been several questions back and forth about this and of course the word means different things to different people. But the one basic thing that it means to Forum participants is that a person who refuses to acknowledge the truth of Jesus as cited above would be considered to be a member of a cult. Now I realize that probably doesn't please you but I'm afriad that's a fact that's well reconized throughout the vast majority of Christendom. I do sincerely hope this clarifies the whole matter for you and the other participants of your faith. I really wish no ill toward you or anyone else. I'm afraid that's just the way things are done here at the Forum. I also pray God will bless you as you study Him AND His Son in His Word. Maintain an open mind AND an open heart to His Will. Pray often about this subject. --Rowdy |
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199 | Rowdy What part of the OT do you abolish | Matt 5:17 | Rowdy | 121624 | ||
I'll answer your question with a question. Which portion of the OT are you NOT following? When and where do you sacrifice animals every day? How do you trace your lineage back to Abraham? Do you coordinate your sacrifices with the Levites? How do know they're true Levites? Do you support men's option to divorce their wives with a simple letter? No need for guilt of any kind? Do you support your fellow man's option to secure "eye for eye or tooth for tooth" in retribution for wrongs done to him? If you DON'T do these things? Please tell me how do you live by and enforce only a portion of the OT? Do you treat the NT similarly in spite of the Lord's command otherwise? And of course, please provide scriptural references for each of these points. How do you reconcile the verse above with the one I cited in my post, Col 2:14. How do you reconcile the contrast between the OT and the NT throughout the Book of Hebrews? As I stated in my post, I don't wish to abolish the OT but merely recognize It for what It was and this is the Law of Moses, notice the use of word Old vs. New. Even the group who organized the current Bible known as the canon recognized the Old Testament was obsolete as that expression must have originated with them. No, we dare NOT dismiss the OT but cling to It with every fiber of our being. As I stated in a previous post a month or more ago, without the OT we wouldn't be able to understand completely the NT nor would we have its beauty in the poetical books of Psalms or Song of Solomon. We would lose out completely by NOT knowing the creation of the world or how God dealt with His Family of Jews, sometimes kindly and merciful and sometimes with harshness and severity, at least by human standards. No dear friend, we must cling to our OTs so that we can know God more intimately than we see Him in the NT. Remember He gave Christ the preiminance as mentioned already in Hebrews. He also gave Him all authority. So how do you reconcile Matt 28 AND the transfiguration in Matt 17, Mark 9 and Luke 9? You might notice as I think it's quite significant that all three Gospel writers thought it was significant to mention the detail about God's instruction to them and to us, the whole world "Listen to Him." He didn't say anything about Elijah or Moses who were standing beside Jesus but God says "Listen to His Son." I don't see how I could any more clear about this subject. I've said all I can think to be germaine about this subject. But I'd be interested in what you think, especially the questions to the above. It all boils down to authority. Who are you, I and the rest of the world going to recognize as having authority in this dispensation? Just as Peter discovered while walking on water, if we'll keep our focus on Jesus, we're great, we can take on the whole world of sin. But if we listen to anyone else and take our focus off Him, then we lose our balance and have to depend on His mercy. He would much rather see us grow spiritually and learn to rely on Him instead of "falling into the hand of God" unprepared. I do hope this helps in your understanding and God bless. --Rowdy |
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200 | 40 Days | Bible general Archive 2 | Rowdy | 121543 | ||
You're right of course. I guess the 33 year conclusion was probably based on historical evidence and the "approximating process" upon figuring the calender in the first couple of centuries. But surely 33 has got to be much closer than 40. I noticed now that BradK has questioned it so I'm going to let it go and let you and he deal with this controversy. I'll watch but thanks for the note. I'm a little embarrassed to admit I thought the 33 year age was based on some verses (combination of a couple) and upon trying to find it just now, I couldn't. Isn't it amazing how a thing like that almost dominates a person's composite knowledge of the Bible so much? I'm thankful I can learn something new every day. God bless you for correcting me. --Rowdy |
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