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1701 | Is pre-tribulation biblical? | Revelation | CDBJ | 173506 | ||
The pretrib position is, as it were, the Johnny come lately of the rapture theories being the teaching of John Nelson Darby; it wasn’t being taught before 1827. The main objectic the whole thing is what actually constitutes the wrath of God? We shouldn’t confuse the worst of mans actions with the ferocity of God’s final wrath against such actions? True believers in the Lord Jesus Christ will never undergo the wrath of God but that doesn’t mean that we are exempt from the wrath or vengeance of the “adversary” of God. 2 Thes. 1:5-9 Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: [6] Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; [7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; As believers in Christ we are going to be the target of tremendous persecution in the final days, but the Lord is going to turn the tide on those responsible for our trouble. No secret sneak us out situation but the most glorious display of the power of God that the world has ever seen. The believers will be snatched up and away, and then WHAM, God will hit the earth with fire delivered by His special angels. 2 Thes. 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. The previous verse tells you when God’s wrath is ordered. The "very same day" he come for his own and they will all witness and admire the wrath of God being poured out un the remaining unbelievers. The key to God’s wrath is a great fire show, that believers will be looking down on, the instant the rapture takes place, and the unbelievers will be looking for a hole or a cave to hide in where they might be safe. Rev 6:15,16 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; [16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: [17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev. 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Lot thought he had a rapid departure; it was so close that Lot come close to burning he shirttail when he left Saddam but he was on foot. Luke 17:28-29 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; [29] But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Don’t confuse the vengeance of the adversary with the final burning of God’s wrath. There is a vast difference between the wrath of man and the wrath of God which is soon to follow. CDBJ |
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1702 | Is pre-tribulation biblical? | Revelation | CDBJ | 173534 | ||
Hi Justme: As "pretrib believers" we are completely oblivious and are disregarding the warnings by Christ and Paul with reference to the last day and all that will happen. Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Example; pretribulation position. The following warning by Paul isn’t directed toward unbelievers; they need the gospel message not a warning about the man of sin! 2 Thes. 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; If we are going to be caught up to meet the Lord in the air before the tribulation, and the antichrist, or man of sin, then it wouldn’t be an issue in the Christian’s life and there would be no need for a warning; but that’s not going to be the case. There are so many believers that have been lulled into the nonsense of the pretrib position that when things start falling apart in this world they will think that the doctrine of the rapture is false along with the message of Christianity and there will be a great falling away, just as Paul stated. Peter even speaks of the great faith required before the time that Christ will appear. 1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Believer always talk about Christ coming like a thief in the night but they fail to recognize that He only comes as a thief in the night to those that aren’t looking for Him, to the unbeliever. "They" and "them", in the following verse is a reference to unbelievers “not” believers. They, the unbelievers will be saying peace and safety, while the believers are being put through the ringer, as it were. 1 Thes. 5:1-3 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. [2] For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. [3] For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. Believers are told to be looking for the signs and seasons of the end times and as a result they will be very eager to see the Lord's return. 1 Thes. 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Matthew chapter 24 is truly the time of Jacob’s trouble but it also is a signal to believers in Christ that Jesus return is very near and that we should be ready for the onslaught of the man of sin. Matthew 24:29-31 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: [30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. [31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. The way I see it, the rapture and the wrath of God are two events that occru on the same day, one right after the other. We don’t know the exact day or hour but we sure will know the seasons. 1 Thes. 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? There won’t be any pretrib believers then, CDBJ |
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1703 | Is pre-tribulation biblical? | Revelation | CDBJ | 173557 | ||
Hi Justme; I have to admit that's really “far out”; did I say that? I know exactly where you are coming from! 1 Cor. 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend. I think you made a good choice with Justme. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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1704 | Will we have flashbacks of the past? | Revelation | CDBJ | 180279 | ||
Hello 2Tim215 and welcome to the forum, That’s an interesting point but where exactly is that found in Revelation, “where we peer through a darkened glass" and your "assumptions" are proven. 2 Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Enjoy the forum and don't give up, CDBJ |
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1705 | Will we have flashbacks of the past? | Revelation | CDBJ | 180349 | ||
There you go 2Tim215, I was just taxing your thinking a little on those, looking through the glass; you pegged it. The only problem now is your “assumption” ideas, in the book of Revelation; notice, no (s) on the end of Revelation. Scripture points out that those judged in Rev. 20 are of the dead verity and there isn’t any indication that any of them are believers in Jesus. No sins are mentioned at the white throne judgment, Jesus paid for all the sins when God judged him on the cross. 1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. The only thing that Jesus didn’t pay for was “mans rejection” of God’s solution for mankind in the person of His unique Son. The basis for the indictment of those at the white throne judgment is the rejection of God’s Christ, Jesus. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Since those to be judged are there on the basis of their works, it appears that they relied on their own works instead of Christ’s work and God clearly points out to them that their works are worthless by comparison to those that Jesus performed on the cross. 1 Cor. 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. Rev. 20:11-15 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. [12] And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. [14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. In effect, those at the white throne judgment have their works placed on God’s balance of justice. Jesus’ work on the cross is on one end of the scale and the unbeliever’s works are placed on the opposite end, and their works are found wanting, or come up short, to say the least. And if that isn’t proof enough for them there is evidence in “the book of life” that, those in review don’t have their names listed. People can believe what God is telling them now, in His Word, or they can believe it when it’s too late! No matter when people believe God the results of the Bible will be; Philip. 2:10-11 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 2Tim 215, here is one for you: Which member of the Trinity is doing the judging at the white throne judgment? Nice talking with you, CDBJ |
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1706 | Tell satan's job when he was in heave | Revelation | CDBJ | 188894 | ||
Greetings Bauhinia and welcome to the forum. I had that same question years ago along with several other verses. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Tie that with Rev. 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. It was explained to me that Satan and all the fallen angels have already been judged but that Satan is going through the appeals process before his execution is carried out. I can’t verify that with scripture but it makes sense to me. But there is a time coming when his execution will be carried out and Satan knows when his numbers is up when the war takes place in heaven and he is grounded. Rev. 12:12-13 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. (A reference to Israel and Christ Jesus) Satan will have his last hurrah by going after God’s elect knowing that his time is short. i.e. forty two months or three and a half years left. Rev. 12:12 (B) because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. The elect or saints will have their chance to suffer for the righteousness that they have in Christ and be accounted worthy when the following takes place. Rev. 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. Here is what is referred to as a near far application or type and antitype by those that suffer persecution. 2 Thes. 1:4-7 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure: 5Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer: 6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you; 7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, The saints of church of Thessalonica are a type of what will later take place with saints all over the Earth in the latter days after Satan is cast down. Jesus describes it this way, Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. I hope you enjoy the forum, CDBJ |
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1707 | Tell satan's job when he was in heave | Revelation | CDBJ | 188896 | ||
Where does it say that those in Jude 6 are moving about? Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Compare that "specific group" with the following. Genesis 6:2-4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Who were the sons of God? Type (sons of God) in the search box on the right side of the home page and you can spend hours researching the question. I'm not the one who isn't convinced you prove your point and I will believe you. God's Word, the Bible doesn't have any mistakesd in it so make what you're saying fit! Have fun, CDBJ |
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1708 | Morning (or Day) Star: Lucifer or JESUS? | Revelation | CDBJ | 194264 | ||
Hi Starfire, I don’t thank that is as confusing as, “2 Is 14:12 "How you have fallen from heaven,” Just kidding, I knew you meant Isaiah 14:12. The word for son in the Hebrew is, BEN, pronounced bane. Does this translation help? Isaiah 14:12 (NASB) "How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning, son of the dawn! You have been cut down to the earth, You who have weakened the nations! I read it as “Morning” and “Dawn” and it makes it clear to me, angles being the son’s of God. CDBJ |
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1709 | Revelation 20:15 | Revelation | CDBJ | 220464 | ||
Hi Again Aileen, When the Bible speaks of believing in Jesus, Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. What, in “your estimation, is it actually asking me to do if anything when compared to the following verse? James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. CDBJ |
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1710 | Revelation 20:15 | Revelation | CDBJ | 220499 | ||
Hi Aileen, I didn’t mean to get you all confused, lets try this a different way. This is hypothetical, but lets say if you were to die tomorrow and you found yourself standing face to face with the Lord and He were to say to you; Aileen why should I let you come into my Kingdom? What do you think you would say to Him? That’s an awesome thought and you are the only one that knows what you yourself would personally say. Now I haven’t used scripture to put you on the spot as it were, so how would you answer or what would be your reply? Don’t panic, it’s just hypothetical anyway, CDBJ |
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1711 | Revelation 20:15 | Revelation | CDBJ | 220524 | ||
Greetings Aileen, Your statement in part, “I would tell the Lord I have believed in Him all of my life” That’s a rather hard thing to do since we are actually born physically alive but at the same time we are born spiritually dead thus the need to be born again. There has to be a point a some time in your life when your experienced the following John 3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Couple that with the following. John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Are you “absolutely sure” that you would have eternal life with God after you take your last breath on this side of heaven or is this something that you don’t have “absolute positive proof of as yet”, and you are hoping for? Your connotation of the word repent might make a big difference with regards to the Bible’s meaning and it’s better to be safe then sorry. What is your estimation of the word repent? Ephes. 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast. Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, Have you experienced the action of the previous verse? Many “assume” that they have salvation because of something they have done but they aren’t positively sure when it come right down to it, i.e. they haven’t received the proof of the witness of the Holy Spirit. 1 John 5:10 (A) He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; They are literally sealed by God Himself when they truly believe. Ephes. 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Just trying to help, CDBJ |
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1712 | Rev 22:12 and post millennial judgement? | Revelation | CDBJ | 236002 | ||
Greetings, If it’s OK with you, in order not to cause confusion, I would like to answer these one at a time? First question to answer; “is there a difference between being judged for you works, and being rewarded for your works in Rev 22:12? I’m not sure. Also I don’t know what (BEMA) means.” My intent was to show that every born again believer in Christ will stand before Him to be rewarded for that which was done while still in the flesh. 2 Corinthians 5:10 (NKJV) 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. This is a judgment for rewards, (Koine Greek “BEMA” is like the reward stand at the Olympic games), not for our sins, they were all judged at the cross and Jesus paid for those and not only ours but for the whole world. 1 John 2:2 (NKJV) 2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. The rewards for our lives while as believers here in this life will be rewarded as follows. 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (NKJV) 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. Those that haven’t put the totality of their faith alone in Christ alone are already judged and this is known before they die physically and God’s Word tells exactly why. John 3:18 (NKJV) 18 He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:36 (NKJV) 36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Have a great day, CDBJ |
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1713 | Time Lines Online? | Rev 1:1 | CDBJ | 204984 | ||
Greetings John, I read the posting on the forum much more then I post but I am usually sitting around with one eye open as often as I can; I’ve been very busy these past few months trying to fulfill, Col. 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. CDBJ |
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1714 | Time Lines Online? | Rev 1:1 | CDBJ | 205039 | ||
Hi Azure, With regards to that I am considered to be cross-eyed! CDBJ |
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1715 | Rev 2:17 additional question | Rev 2:17 | CDBJ | 16894 | ||
I agree with this one and so does Psalm 119:160 that says we have to use all of God's Word to establish truth about any particular doctrine. We just can't pull out what we want and use it, if other parts of God's Word say something to the contrary. There has to be a common ground where there is no contradiction between verses, if our doctrine is correct and true. God's word doesn't have any mistakes in it! CDBJ | ||||||
1716 | Can one connect with first centuty sins? | Rev 2:23 | CDBJ | 158744 | ||
Greetings LC133, Thank you for answering my post, it seems you have answered everything but what I ask; and by the way, did you change your name or something?? I don’t remember you as being that nebulous and obstruct, CDBJ |
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1717 | Book of Life "will never be altered." | Rev 3:5 | CDBJ | 67955 | ||
Greetings Kalos, the way I see Rev. 13:8 is in agreement with your view and that being that only the names of believers; however as to when they were written in the book may leave much dispute depending on the translation used. Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rev. 13:8 And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. Someone made reference to ones name being omitted in Rev. 22:19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. There again it doesn’t actually say name but his part, which could tie in with another verse. 1 Cor. 3:15 If any man's work is burned up, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire. In essence what it is conveying to me is that the individual in question will be saved, he just won’t have anything to go along with it. Kind of like everybody standing around in nice white robes and he will be standing there in his B.V.D.s (God shall take away his part) This wouldn’t even be necessary if he wasn’t there in the first place. What got him there, as with all, was believing in Jesus Christ, God’s Son, not something he did with reference to God’s written Word, by changing or omitting. Just because the thesis is true in a verse does not necessarily mean that the antithesis is true as well. Rev. 3:5 'He who overcomes shall thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father, and before His angels. |
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1718 | Book of Life "will never be altered." | Rev 3:5 | CDBJ | 67985 | ||
Hi Tim, smart move on your part, Whether or not they can be removed is a different question! :-(But, I'm not going to go there! :-), Once bitten, twice shy. Here are the different translations that I have on the same verse, take your pick. Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rev. 13:8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. Rev. 13:8 And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. Rev. 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. Rev. 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rev. 13:8 And all the people who belong to this world worshiped the beast. They are the ones whose names were not written in the Book of Life, which belongs to the Lamb who was killed before the world was made. Rev. 13:8 Everyone living on earth will worship it, everyone whose name is not written in the Book of Life. That book belongs to the lamb who was slaughtered before the creation of the world. Rev. 13:8 And all that dwell on the earth shall worship him, every one whose name hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that hath been slain. Rev. 13:8 and all that dwell on the earth shall do it homage, [every one] whose name had not been written from [the] founding of [the] world in the book of life of the slain Lamb. Rev. 13:8 And bow before it shall all who are dwelling upon the land, whose names have not been written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world; Even a little for the Spanish-speaking brother and sisters. Rev. 13:8 Y la adorarán todos los que moran en la tierra, cuyos nombres no han sido escritos, desde la fundación del mundo, en el libro de la vida del Cordero que fue inmolado. It is probably a mute point seeing as how the main concern is being in there in the first place and those that aren’t wouldn’t have a clue about what we are talking about anyway. CDBJ |
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1719 | Testing | Rev 3:11 | CDBJ | 157012 | ||
Greetings Mark, It’s interesting that you use the verse in Revelation, Rev. 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. It appears as though the church, the body of Christ, is becoming complacent, seeing it has been close to two thousand years since these words were spoken, and yet the Lord hasn’t returned as yet. Could it be that these words, I come quickly, weren’t meant to represent an epic that will take place in the very near future? Could the words, I come quickly actually represent the speed at which it will occur, once it starts to happen? Time has proven that this must be the case. Example: 1 Cor. 15:51-52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, [52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. I come quickly and in the twinkling of an eye, could both represent the same thing, that’s pretty fast by my chronographic view! CDBJ |
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1720 | Jesus Created or Creator??? | Rev 3:14 | CDBJ | 96114 | ||
Hi Gene and welcome to the forum, that theology sounds very familiar to me, do the initials R.B.T.Jr. or the colonel, mean anything to you? Just curious, CDBJ |
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