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161 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | OT general | keliy | 211316 | ||
Hi Pete, thanks for responding, I have no problem with your timing, it is a non-issue with me, and it is always good to hear from you. Your questions are quite challenging, and thought provoking and that is why I come to this forum when I can. You asked: how then are we to know at what precise time our faulty wisdom is not faulty. That is an excellent question. But, if we could answer that, our wisdom would not be faulty, now would it? (o; What I said was, 'When there appears to be anything amiss, it is always us who possess the faulty wisdom and not God." -The key here, is "appears" and it suggests an impression that could be an erroneous one. (I think, therefore I err) In response to your next question, on Deut 13:10, you wrote, "He commands us to kill our brother or any other family member if they try to entice us away from Him" I would bring up certain rules of hermeneutics here relating to cultural context but time and space being limited, I will give you the short answer and if you still are at a loss, I would appreciate another reply. What the author is trying to get across here, concerns the dangers of idolatry. In the prior chapter (12:30,31) he had warned following in ways of the Canaanites. In this chapter he is warning against the rise of idolatry from among themselves. Satan often uses people that are closest to us as tools to draw us away from God. A stranger would be far less likely to have an effect, satan well knows. When the seducer does appear, as a brother, child, parent, or whatever, he must not only be strongly resisted, but also punished by the law of the land. In that culture, I believe it was getting stoned to death. This was to be done not hastily, or privately, but after proper trial and conviction; and you, as informer, would be given the duty to cast the first stone. So Pete, when you do have a question like this, it is good to go back into the time and culture of the original author and the original language to translate for yourself, -after praying for understanding, and God will be faithful to help your understanding become more complete. We are actually commanded to do this, in 2Tim 2:15: Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. (NASB) Is rendered in the (KJV) as, Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Notice, for example, where the NASB writes "accurately handling", is in the Greek, "orthotomeo" Let us get an answer from: A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, by Arndt and Gingrich (p. 584), The Greek word orthotomeo is found once only in the New Testament, hardly enough to dogmatically state it means "dissect," and the authoritative source—A Greek-English Lexicon—says perhaps it means "guide the word of truth along a straight path." This is ample proof that to translate orthotomeo as "dissecting" is STRICTLY AN INTERPRETATION. Furthermore, the Septuagint shows the King James Version translators correctly rendered it "divide." I need to split this into two parts for sending, -More to follow (o: keliy |
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162 | I just started reading the Bible and.... | Deut 24:1 | keliy | 211269 | ||
Cheri, Pete, Shkoyach (means thank you and/or job well done) (o: so very much for your participation in this thread. You both have been a real blessing to me. As threads go, this one has been one of my favorites to follow. Hang in there, Pete! chalamot paz (sweet dreams) in His service and yours, keliy |
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163 | In the beginning God Made Adam and Eve, | Genesis | keliy | 211129 | ||
Shalom Cheri, Boker tov. That was a very nice portrait (synopsis?) of the Bible that you painted in your post. (o: Good answer! There is one aspect of the Bible that you seem to miss, Salvation. (-although, you did mention 'Good News') This actually comes to me from an old Jewish (Christian Pastor) friend. His viewpoint is that the: Bible begins with man in fellowship with God in paradise (the garden of Eden). The Bible ends with maps. (no, just kidding (o; The Bible ends with man and God in fellowship once again, in Paradise. Everything that makes up all the pages in between the first chapter and the last chapter is the story of God's perfect plan for the salvation of mankind, the epitome of His creation. This does not make your answer any clearer, but I just wanted to share because I thought it was well put. Shalom all, keliy |
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164 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | keliy | 211062 | ||
Brother John, Thank you for replying to my post. Although I am not proud of my wandering in the widerness for approx 35 years in rebellion, it does bring me a great deal of pleasure to see how far the Lord has brought me in such a short time. And the fact that, being forgiven for so much, have so much to be thankful for. Let the peace of God rule in your heart to which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Col 3:15 Peace and Grace, keliy |
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165 | Kill your brother and drink strong drink | James 2:10 | keliy | 211054 | ||
Hi Pete, You are very wise to be following such good advice. To get to know Jesus first is very important. -For no other foundation can any man lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (1Cor 3:11) - then we must build upon the foundation like a man who built his house upon a rock, And the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. (Mat 7:24,5) So do not be confused about Scripture that says it is alright to kill a brother -for any reason, because to diregard the law of the land is to disobey God. That is brought to us in Romans: Rom 13:1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. Rom 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. Remember, that now we are in New Testament times. Testament means Covenant, which is a promise that is not to be broken. Jer 31:31 tells us, "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah.." -That 'New Covenant' comes to us through Jesus Christ, who was, and is 100 percent God, and 100 percent man. Jesus breaks down the Mosaic Law and the Ten Commandments into the Two Great Commands: "'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' "This is the first and great commandment. "And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets." (Mat 22:37-40)(Jesus speaking) -So you see, if anyone kills a brother, hurts him, or even calls him a name, they are guilty of disobeying God's law. Finally, Pete, I agree with Starting the NT in Matthew, but, instead of continuing to the next gospel, may I suggest to break the NT into four sections, and reading a gospel between each section? After Matthew, you might want to skip to Romans, which is very rich in doctrine. Then the pastoral epistles, such as 1 and 2 Timothy will help you to build upon that foundation, line upon line, precept upon precept. To read all four gospels might get a little distracting. I say this because each one brings a different point of view as God uses man's hand to bring us His message. Matthew is about Jesus the King. Mark's focus is Jesus the Servant. Luke is about Jesus the Man. John focuses on the deity of Jesus which is most important to me. -Christology is an awesome subject to study. There is so much depth in God's Word, and I have to thank you again for bringing your questions to us all at the Forum. We come here from all around the world! We all love to study and fellowship in God's Word, which has so much wisdom and depth, it takes a lifetime and then some to discover it all. I myself did not start reading the Bible until after the new year in 2000, and our Lord has been faithful to repay all of my time spent studying with a peace that I can find no where else on earth! Praise the Lord. In His service and yours, keliy |
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166 | Rule and Reign over What? | 1 Cor 6:3 | keliy | 211002 | ||
It's Always a Pleasure! Oseh Shalom Bimromav Hu Ya-aseh Shalom Aleinu Ve'Al Kol Yisrael Ve'Imru Amen May the One who makes peace above Make peace descend on all of us On all of us and Yisrael And let us say Amen keliy |
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167 | Rule and Reign over What? | 1 Cor 6:3 | keliy | 211000 | ||
Cheri, Thank you for such an ineresting question ! Here is an interesting commentary, -not completely in line with my thoughts above, from John Gill's Exposition of the Bible: 1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels… Meaning not the ministers of the Gospel, and pastors of churches, called "angels", (Revelation 1:20) whose doctrines are examined, tried, and judged by the saints, according to the word of God; nor the good angels, who, were it possible that they could, or should publish a Gospel contrary to what has been preached by the apostle, would be contradicted, condemned, and accursed by him, see (Galatians 1:8,9) but the evil angels, the devil and his angels: and this is to be understood not of their future final judgment and condemnation at the last day, when saints will subscribe unto, and approve of the sentence pronounced upon them, and will triumph over them in their destruction; but of the judgment of them, and of their ejection out of the Gentile world, out of their oracles, idols, and idol temples, to which Christ refers, (John 12:31) and calls the judgment of this world, and the casting out of the prince of it by the ministry of his apostles; and which was now already begun, and ere long would be fully accomplished: accordingly the Syriac version renders it, "know ye not (Nnynyd akalmld) , that we are about to judge angels?" and the Arabic, "know ye not that we judge angels?" from whence the apostle infers very justly, how much more things that pertain to this life? this animal life; to the trade and business of life; to pecuniary matters, to estates and possessions in this world, about which differences may arise between one saint and another. These thoughts of course, are John Gill's and can be found at: http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/GillsExpositionoftheBible/ Peace, keliy |
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168 | Rule and Reign over What? | 1 Cor 6:3 | keliy | 210999 | ||
Cheri, I must add a follow-up note, after seeing the verse above in the AMP version. The phrase, "and pronounce opinion between right and wrong [for them]?" appears to be an addition by the authors of that translation. This is because I do not find these words, or suggestions to that effect, in the Greek Text. Blessings, keliy |
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169 | Who is "She" ? | Is 13:22 | keliy | 210995 | ||
Many thanks Cheri. I am trying to look into this verse from an end times prophecy angle. There does seem to be some parallels, -but they also seem to be a stretch. Thanks for keeping me in context. Lord bless, keliy |
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170 | Who is "She" ? | Is 13:22 | keliy | 210974 | ||
A gratuitous Shalom to you, Cheri. The concept of Babylon is hard for me to grasp. Is this talking about literal Babylon, the city? Or, figurative babylon, which represents the false religious elements of the earth, Or possibly, the mysterious Babylon the great, the mother of all Harlots? 1Pet 5:13 states, She who is in Babylon, chosen together with you, sends you greetings, and so does my son, Mark. (NASB) In appreciation, Keliy |
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171 | Why did Moses' send his wife to Midian | Ex 4:25 | keliy | 210828 | ||
God's Blessings to you as well, Senicienta; You are doing fine, thank you for sharing with us on the Forum. We all started at the same place in computers as well as in Bible study. That place of course, was as 'a beginner'. Keep up the good work, and remember, if God leads you to it, He will lead you through it. It is always a pleasure to hear from you. Grace and Peace to you. keliy |
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172 | Why did Moses' send his wife to Midian | Ex 4:25 | keliy | 210777 | ||
Okay, I meant his own family, brothers and sisters notwithstanding. As for speculation on Scripture, I have read many commentaries, take Revelation for instance. It is possible to pick up the works of 10 commentators and get no less than 12 explanations of the verses. May I ask you, are you at odds with them as well? Do you judge me for doing my best, if my best is not faultless? If there is no response to a query, is it wrong to start a dilogue with my best understandings, or would we actually fare better to leave well enough alone? Speaking alethes in agape, keliy |
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173 | Why did Moses' send his wife to Midian | Ex 4:25 | keliy | 210775 | ||
I stand corrected again, Thank You, and may God Bless you and yours. | ||||||
174 | Similar Barak in Judges - Barack Obama. | Bible general Archive 4 | keliy | 210763 | ||
Thank you John, Your reply and Scripture reference blessed me. I will respond with a verse from St Paul's letter to the Philippians: Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. Php 2:1-4 Lord Bless, keliy |
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175 | can salvation be lost? | Rev 2:1 | keliy | 210759 | ||
Linda, I guess this is where we bobbleheads continue to pray for discernement, ;o) as in your prior post. I feel that it pleases the Lord when we pray to Him for discernment, because it proves our reliance on Him by humbly admitting our inferiority, and it also applauds Him for His boundless knowledge, and grace. blessings, keliy ps, Sorry for the delay in answering, my career has shifted into crunch-time mode. |
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176 | Need feedback on Genesis? | Bible general Archive 4 | keliy | 210704 | ||
Thank you Cheri, I promise to be more attentive keliy |
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177 | Need feedback on Genesis? | Bible general Archive 4 | keliy | 210640 | ||
I can only point you to my post, where it says Abraham had a son prior... keliy |
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178 | Why is communion a sin for sinners? | Luke 22:19 | keliy | 210638 | ||
O Yes, thank you, I understand completely now, thanks to your well-prepared post, especially when you wrote: "Whatever the sin is, it is sin.... and it serves to impair our ability to fellowship with God." I am glad that you and Wally are not in the same boat. God's blessings. keliy |
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179 | Why is communion a sin for sinners? | Luke 22:19 | keliy | 210596 | ||
A heartfelt thanks, Tim Your post brings to light much of what I was trying to comprehend. Thank you for your perspective. Keliy |
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180 | Why is communion a sin for sinners? | Luke 22:19 | keliy | 210590 | ||
Hi Doc, I am sorry, but it seems you have missed my point and I should have been more thorough at the outset. Please read the post I have just finished, for jhetrick. It discusses using Scripture in places where it was not meant to be used by the original, inspired author. -As you cite Matt 7:6, who are you referring to as dogs and swine? We are talking about those who are trying to gain a place at the table, as well as a relationship with our Savior, who withheld nothing of Himself for the benefit of us sinners. (Can you imagine the bewilderment on the faces of the apostles after the meal was finished and Jesus began to wash their feet?) In His unfailing love, keliy |
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