Results 1421 - 1440 of 1443
|
||||||
Results from: Notes Author: Emmaus Ordered by Date |
||||||
Results | Verse | Author | ID# | |||
1421 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26202 | ||
Thank you for your response. I have not missed the irony of the context. However, I thought the topic "When did the Catholic Church go wrong" rather odd on scripture discussion forum. Most questions seem to be related to scriptural text. I posted my answer to your question since it was an open minded question with a scriptural answer. Satisfaction with the answer is not guaranteed as recipeients may disagree with the interpretation. Howerever, it is the scriptural answer that the Catholic Church gives and your question was when did the Catholic Church come up with Mary as Queen of Heaven. |
||||||
1422 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26056 | ||
I am content let my original three posts on Mary and Scripture speak for themselves to those who wish to read and meditate on them and reach their own conclusions. Anything else would be to invite a forum version of a WWF caged ring championship match. It was my understanding that this was scripture discussion forum, not a Catholic bashing forum. Blessings to all on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception! |
||||||
1423 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26045 | ||
Did Jesus have a mother? What was her name? Was Jesus God? Was there more than one Jesus, the God Jesus and the man Jesus? Do women give birth to natures or to persons? Jesus was one divine person, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Mary was the mother of that Incarnation. That is not the same as saying she created the pre-existent deity or that she is in any way equal to God. Look up the Nestorian heresy. | ||||||
1424 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26044 | ||
Have I accused you of having interpretive opinons flawed by your Protestant tradition? Nobody comes to a discussion without a point of view or tradition that was passed down to them, even yourself. I presented scripture and interpretation. I did not attack anyone or any other tradition. Am I not entitled to my own position in a discussion? | ||||||
1425 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26039 | ||
Indeed, God can save us from the pit of sin or before we fall into it. Either way God saves. If you were God and could create your own mother, would you create her pure or stained with sin? It would be your doing not her's. Luke 1:28 "Full of grace,” in the Greek, "kecharitome" is a perfect passive participle indicating "one (she) who has been perfected in grace,” a past action that is ongoing. |
||||||
1426 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26035 | ||
Greetings Nolan. You did not addess the scripture or back up you opinion statement with scripture. |
||||||
1427 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26028 | ||
Mary, the New Eve "And the Lord God said to the serpent, ...I will put enmity between you and the woman and between her seed and your seed." Genesis 3:14-15 "A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun...Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod." Revelation 12:1,4-5 " And the dragon was angry with the woman and went off to make war against the rest of her offspring." Revelation 12:17 "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil." 1 John 3:8 "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Emmanuel." Isaiah 7:14 "But when the fullness of time was come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law." Galatians 4:4 ________________________________________ It can be seen that the woman of Genesis 3:15 is Mary, the new Eve, for this mention of the "seed of the woman" in scripture is unique. All other mention of seed always refers to man's seed. But Jesus was born in the flesh of a woman, by the power of the Holy Spirit, not by the seed of a man. Mary is the New Eve, the mother of all the living in Christ Jesus according to the Spirit, just as Eve is "the mother of all the living," in Adam according to the flesh. Genesis 3: 20. Jesus is the New Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45-49 __________________________________________ "Fear not Mary, for thou hast found favor with God...The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Most High shall overshadow thee: therefore the child which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." Luke 1:30, 35 Here we begin to see that Mary’s dignity grows out of her relationship to Jesus and the Holy Trinity, as does the dignity of every child of God. She is the daughter of the Father, the mother of the Son and the spouse of the Holy Spirit. "Blessed are you who believed that what was spoken to you by the Lord would be fulfilled.... My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior.... Behold from henceforth all generations will call me blessed." Luke 1:45, 46-48 By the same analogy it can be seen that though Eve opened the door to sin and death by her disobedience and "no" to God's command, it was by Adam’s dis- obedience and sin that death entered and enslaved all mankind. So Mary, by her obedience and "yes " to God, opened the door to grace and life for all mankind, which was secured by the obedience of the Savior, Jesus. "Just as through one man's disobedience, many were made sinners, so through the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." Romans 5:19 ___________________________ As in Genesis 3:6, Eve prodded Adam into disobedience and sin, so in John 2:3-5, Mary instigates the beginning of the saving ministry of Jesus by her prodding at Cana. "So she took some of the fruit and ate it; and she also gave some to her husband who was with her and he ate it." Genesis 3:6 "The mother of Jesus said to him, 'They have no wine.' Jesus said to her, 'Woman, how does your concern affect me? My hour has not yet come.' His mother said to the servers, 'Do whatever he tells you.' " John 2:3-5 Those are the last words of Mary recorded in scripture: "Do whatever he tells you." |
||||||
1428 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26027 | ||
Mary, Ark of the New Covenant Exodus 40:34: "Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle." Luke 1:35: "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God" __________________________________________ John 1:13: "Born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh or of the will of man..." Luke 1:34: "I do not know man." John 1:13: "...but of God." John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt (pitched his tent) among us." Exodus 25:8 "And let them make me a sanctuary that I may dwell in their midst" _____________________________________________ Exodus 25: 10-11 "They shall make an ark...and you shall overlay it with pure gold within and without..." Luke 1: 28 “Hail, full of grace!” Exodus 25: 21 "And you shall put the mercy seat on top of the ark; and in the ark you shall put the testimony that I shall give you." Exodus 25: 22 "There I shall meet with you, and from above the mercy seat..." John 19:25 "…But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother..." ____________________________________________________ 2 Samuel 6:9 "How can the ark of the Lord come to me?" Luke 1:43 "And why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" 2 Samuel 6:11 "The ark of the Lord remained for three months in the house." Luke 1:56 "And Mary remained with her about three months." 2 Samuel 6:16 "David leaping and dancing before the Lord." Luke 1:41 "The babe leapt in her womb." _________________________________________ Hebrews 9:4 "... the Ark of the Covenant...which contained a golden urn holding the manna and Aaron’s rod that budded, ...and the tables of the covenant." Exodus 16:32-34 Mary is the ark of the new covenant that carried the Word of God and the manna come down from heaven, the bread of life, Jesus, our great high priest. John 6:31-35 “Our fathers ate manna in the wilderness.... The bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world... I am the bread of life." _____________________________________________ The Glory Of the Lord had departed from Israel and the temple when the Ark of the Covenant was lost, and was not seen there again until Mary came with Jesus to the temple. Ezekiel 10:18 "The Glory of the Lord went forth..." Luke 2:25-32 "Now master let your servant go in peace... for my eyes have seen...a light for revelation to the Gentiles and the Glory of your people Israel." Revelation 21:2-3 "And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice from the throne saying, ‘Behold the dwelling of God is with men, He will dwell with them…’" Revelation 11:19 "Then God’s temple in heaven was opened in heaven, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple... 12:1 And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars...." Genesis 3:15 "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise thy head and thou shalt bruise his heel." Mary is an example of obedient faith in God and an image and symbol of the Church, which carries Christ into the world. For this reason she was called by the early Greek Christians, Theotokos, or God Bearer. She is also called the Mother of the Church, which is the mystical body of Christ as Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 12:12-30. |
||||||
1429 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26026 | ||
The image of Mary as Queen of Heaven comes directly from Revelation 12:1-12. This image of the woman clothed with the sun and with a crown of tewelve stars has from the beginning been interpreted on several levels. The woman as Irael bringing forth the Messiah, the Church delivering Christ to the world and Mary bringing forth Jesus into the world. Mary fits all the images. She embodies daughter Zion, she is a symbol of the church and she is the actually mother of the Savior. So as not to make any one post too long I will follow with two more posts on Mary as the Ark of the Covenant and as Mother of God. All with appropriate references to Scripture. | ||||||
1430 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 26022 | ||
With all due respect, the sin of hypocracy is not a doctinal error, but a personal sin to which everyone is susceptible and subject to correction. In fact it was Peter who first was led by God to proclaim that the Gospel was for the gentiles as well as the Jews. Acts 10 and 11. | ||||||
1431 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 25899 | ||
I do not know anything about the convergence movement. Where can I see something about it? Where did you read the "white paper"? |
||||||
1432 | When did the catholic church go wrong? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 25795 | ||
I believe your question is important. And the answers may not be simple. That the Church was in need of reform was not in dispute. All parties agreed on that. The Church is always in need of reform as are all Christians. The question is how to accomplish the reformation? And today how to we heal the Church and restore its vital unity? I believe history is sadly repeating itself everyday with the continuing fragmentation of the Church. The Spirit and Forms of Protestanism by Louis Bouyer is good book on the subject of where the Reformation was right (primacy of grace and scripture)in it's aspirations as well as what it's flaws (extrinsic justification and abandonment of Church Tradition for private interpretation) were. It is written by a man who was both Protestant and Catholic in his life. It is not polemic and is written with a view to reconciliation. In addition to the book mentioned above, Hilaire Belloc wrote two related books: How the Reformation Happened, and Characters of the Reformation. Belloc is an excellent writer and he also was both Protestant and Catholic during his life. His writings are somewhat polemic, but he does make people and history come alive and is fair even to those whose actions or positions he may disagree with. Some of his books are available in text on the web at a variety of sites. I am sorry my answer did not address your original question. It was really more of a response to another member's comments about Constantine and the corruption of the Church in the fourth century. |
||||||
1433 | Three views of the | Matt 24:3 | Emmaus | 25566 | ||
Joe, Kalos did a good job on your question. Another good piece on the questions is to be found at http://www.catholic.com/library/rapture.asp It starts out with a slyly humorous observation: "Are you Pre, Mid, or Post? If you don’t know how to answer that question, you’re probably a Catholic.....,you need a little background." |
||||||
1434 | Renewal AGAIN to repentance? | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 25029 | ||
Joe, I like to think of it more along the lines of once saved, always being saved, unless you reject the gift of salvation and do not persevere in the faith until the end. Paul's letters are to Christian communities, but he is always warning them that they too can be cut off like those of the Hebrew covenant who rejected Christ Rom 11:22; 1 Cor 10:12; 1Tim 1:18-19. It is not God's faithfulness in question, but the faithfulness of His people in both the Old and New Covenant. We are just as free to reject or disgard his gift as were those in the Old Covenant. God does not force salvation on anyone. It is a gift freely given which must be freely accepted or rejected like any other gift. It is possible to fall away or reject God's gift and then again repent Luke 15:11-32. Do you think this father would have only given his prodigal son one chance. I doubt it. The older brother I wouldn't wan to count on. The reason God delays is to give us the chance to repent and finally persevere in His gift of faith and justification. | ||||||
1435 | Who is Jesus? | Matt 24:28 | Emmaus | 23962 | ||
The RSV translation of Matt 24:28 has it: "Wherever the body is ther the eagles will be gathered together." The passage refers to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD and the eagles are the eageles on the standards of the Romans who scavange the city laid waste. In the Old testament the translation is "vultures." In either case it refers to scavangers, symbolizing the pagan nations who brought suffering on Isreal. Dt 28:49, Hab 1:8, Hos 8:1. |
||||||
1436 | must we eat Jesus literally? | John 6:53 | Emmaus | 23795 | ||
Kama17, There is nothing to indicate Jesus meant anything other than what he said. There is no indication that what he said he meant figuratively. Otherwise why did so many leave him in John 6. And Paul certainly took Jesus literally in 1 Corinthians 10:16 and 11:27-30. What does "is" mean. The sacraments, whether you believe in one, two or seven are all real encounters with the real Christ. This was never in dispute for the first thousand years of Christianity. Do the research and you will see it for yourself. It may be a mysery as great as the Trinity, but it is truth nonetheless. |
||||||
1437 | Please help me to find this out for this | Luke 1:27 | Emmaus | 23616 | ||
Arks of the Covenants. On a less controversial note about Mary, some may find the following example of an Old Testament foreshadowing or type fulfilled in the New Testament interesting. Exodus 40:34: "Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle." Luke 1:35: "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God"John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt (pitched his tent) among us." 2 Samuel 6:9 "How can the ark of the Lord come to me?" Luke 1:43 "And why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" 2 Samuel 6:11 "The ark of the Lord remained for three months in the house." Luke 1:56 "And Mary remained with her about three months." 2 Samuel 6:16 "David leaping and dancing before the Lord." Luke 1:41 "The babe leapt in her womb." _________________________________________ Hebrews 9:4 "... the Ark of the Covenant...which contained a golden urn holding the manna and Aaron’s rod that budded, ...and the tables of the covenant." Exodus 16:32-34 Mary is the ark of the new covenant that carried the Word of God and the manna come down from heaven, the bread of life, Jesus, our great high priest. John 6:31-35 “Our fathers ate manna in the wilderness.... The bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world... I am the bread of life." |
||||||
1438 | Please help me to find this out for this | Luke 1:27 | Emmaus | 23554 | ||
"Yet, none of the verses you listed say that the brothers of Jesus were cousins, or that they were the sons of another Mary! This seems to be pure assumption of your part!" Tim, It is also an assumption that they are brothers and not cousins, since the greek "adelphous" is used in the New testament in both the sense of brother and kinsmen. See Matt 4:21-22 and Acts 9:17. See also the African American use of "brother" in our time, which is even broader. "Also, as Searcher56 pointed out, Mt. 1:25 clearly indicates that Joseph and Mary did have sexual relations after the birth of Jesus. The exact wording is, "He did not know her until she gave birth to a son!" Again you have a greek word "heos" (until) that does not necessarily mean that after a certain point in time, a different action occurred. See Matt 1:25, 1 Cor 15:25. You also have to assume sexual relations occurred in your interpretation, since it is not explicit in the pasaage cite.What is explicit is that they did not have sexual relations before the birth of Jesus. My point is that everyone brings a point of view or "presumptions" to their interpretation and that the Catholic interpretation is not unbiblical, but merely different from some Protestant interpretations, which in many cases disagree with one another on the interpretaion of some scripture passages. |
||||||
1439 | Please help me to find this out for this | Luke 1:27 | Emmaus | 23551 | ||
You are correct.I meant that the interpretation of Matt 13:55 is undone by Matt 27: 55 and Jude 1:1 |
||||||
1440 | Please help me to find this out for this | Luke 1:27 | Emmaus | 23433 | ||
Shadow, You may find the following Scriptural explanation of the Catholic view of interest if you are still in dialogue with your Catholic friend. The Catholic position is not unbiblical. It is a matter of which tradition of interpretation you accept. Mary, Ever Virgin: Ezekiel 44:2 "And the Lord said to me, 'This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut." Early Christians recognized this passage as a prophecy of Mary's perpetual virginity, a doctrine that even the Protestant Reformers Luther and Calvin accepted. Gospel references to the "brothers and sister of Jesus" implying other children of Mary do not hold up under close examination. Matthew 13:55 is undone by Matt 28:1 and 27:55 and John 19:25 and Jude 1:1 which points out that James and Joseph and Jude, the "brothers of Jesus " are in fact cousins and the sons of another Mary. It is also interesting to note that nowhere in scripture is anyone described as a son or daughter of either Mary or Joseph other than Jesus. Only Jesus is ever described as the "son of Mary" of Nazareth. There are references to the brothers or sister of Jesus, but the original words used in those contexts can be found in other places in scripture where they are without doubt used to describe kin in a broader sense: i.e., Genesis 14:14 29:15, 1Cor 15:6, Rom 8:29, 1 Peter 5:2, Mark 6:4. In the Greek Old Testament, the Septuagint: 1 Mac 9:44; 11:73; 12:27,28; 28: 13:52; 15:52; 15:16; 2 Mac.11: 20; Proverbs 13:21. In the Hebrew OT the same usage is found: Gen 14:14 and Gen 29:15. You can use the King James Version for these references except for the Macabees which are now left out of the King James, but which were in the original 1611 version of the King James, a fact she can even be confirmed through Protestant sources. If Jesus had brother and sister, why would he give his mother to John at the foot of the cross? This would be a serious violation of Jewish custom, in which the children were responsible to take care of their widowed mother. |
||||||
Result pages: << First < Prev [ 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 ] Next > Last [73] >> |