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121 | how could you spot a false teacher? | 1 Tim 3:15 | Emmaus | 136748 | ||
Junmeskie and msgzzz, I am Catholic and have been on this forum for three years. It is a Bible Study forum. It is not about pushing a particular agenda or getting in the face of others. Those who bash Catholic and the Catholic faith have had their privilege to post revoked. We are not here to have endless debate. Please respect the fact that all of us are guest here and the host organization is a Protestant company. They could make this a forum closed to Catholics if they wished. Curtsey toward the host's background is a minimal expectation. You are free to discuss scripture and to put forward the Catholic position on scripture so long as it is done courteously and with the understanding that your Catholic position may be debated or challenged. Emmaus |
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122 | for by grace you have been saved through | Heb 10:26 | Emmaus | 136207 | ||
k james, Adding to Kalos' point, read verse 13 along with Phil 2:12. It makes all trhe difference. Grace is the very life of "God who is at work in you". Phil 2:12-13 "So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure." No good work in Christ is possible without grace. Emmaus |
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123 | They that depise others... | Luke 18:9 | Emmaus | 135728 | ||
Gospel Luke 18:9 - 14 "He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and despised others: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank thee that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I get’. But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for every one who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted”." |
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124 | Psalm 22 beautiful, sad, amazing | Ps 22:14 | Emmaus | 135607 | ||
Jesus was praying this Psalm on the cross. Matthew 27:46 See also a reference in John 18:24 |
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125 | trials and tribulations | Bible general Archive 2 | Emmaus | 135032 | ||
Thanks Kalos. I recently found this. The titles is a little misleading and an infelelictous choice of title for an NAB concordance. THE NEW WORLD DICTIONARY/CONCORDANCE: NAB Product Code: W2416 ISBN: 0-529-04540-0 No. of Pages: 768 Size:4 1/4 X 7 Color:FULL COLOR Cover:PAPERBACK Price:6.95 Emmaus |
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126 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134919 | ||
Doc, How condescending of you. Emmaus |
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127 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134761 | ||
Tim, I belive that John 6:52 is the key verse in the whole passage. That was the final straw it seems. John 6:51 "I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh." John 6:52 "Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, "How can this man give us His flesh to eat?" John 6:58 "This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever." John 6:59 "These things He said in the synagogue as He taught in Capernaum. John 6:60 "Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this said, "This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?" John 6:61 "But Jesus, conscious that His disciples grumbled at this, said to them, "Does this cause you to stumble?" John 6:66 "As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore." So the question still remains. How can this man give us his flesh to eat? Many still cannot near this statement, which Jesu did not retract nor explain away as mere symbolic speech, but which the Church unanimously undersdtood for 1500 years as Holy Communion and which the majority of Christians still understand in that way. Emmaus |
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128 | WHO pays the wage? | 1 John 1:9 | Emmaus | 134724 | ||
Colin, We are God's co-workers or fellow workers in Christ and working in Him we coform ourselves to Him and grow in sanctificaation through our work with and in Him. Rom 16:3 Greet Prisca and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus, Rom 16:12 Greet Tryphaena and Tryphosa, workers in the Lord. Greet Persis the beloved, who has worked hard in the Lord. 1 Cor 3:9 For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building. Emmaus |
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129 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134717 | ||
Colin, Not for me. What was everone so unpset about in John 6 if it was just symbolic speech and why didn't Jesus just clarify the matter if they were misunderstanding? It is more than a mere symbol and Jesus in the Bread of Life discourse never stopped those who were walking away because of His teaching on this matter by just saying, "Hey, don't get upset, you misunderstand, I am only speaking symbolically." Apparently from John 6:60, 64, 70-71 Judas was one of those who could not abide Jesus's teaching on the matter, but Judas unlike the others did not walk away just then. he waited until he could cash in by his betrayal. Emmaus |
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130 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134697 | ||
Colin, In Catholic theology, when an adult or child older than an infant is baptized, all sins committed by that person up to that time as well as original sin are remitted or forgiven. Any furue sins are dealt with by the spiritual warfare as you mentioned and by confession. Emmaus Emmaus |
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131 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134640 | ||
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132 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134627 | ||
Colin, By His Incarnation, death and resurrection, Jesus is both the Sign and the means of grace and salvation. One definition of sacrament is that it is a sign instituted by God to give grace. Emmaus |
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133 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134614 | ||
Doc, I am putting on my wading boots. Emmaus |
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134 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134612 | ||
Colin, "Ordinary means" means that is the way God has established as the ordinary means of recieving grace. God has boud grace and salvation to His sacraments, but He is not bound by them. God can save in extraordinary ways when He choses or the ordinary means is not possible,i.e. the thief on the cross and Cornelius and his household. In the later case God was making a point to Peter and the other Jews, kinda like hitting them in the head with a 2 x 4 to get their attention that His Kingdom was open to the Gentiles. Notice that once Baptism was open to the Gentiles, this order of occurence never happened again. The Catholic Church even teaches a "Baptism of desire" when one is unable to be Baptiszed sacramentally, but that is not the "ordinary means" of salvation. As is often the case in the Catholic position is both / and, while the Protestant position is either / or. Catholicism integrates, Protetantism separates. Catholics see faith working through love. Protestants see faith alone and love alone some place else. Think of it like two kids. One doesn't care if the food on the plate touches. The other would prefer no touching and really likes those segmented plates. Same food, different arrangement. Let the Spirit touch the flesh or the water or the oil or the bread and wine. It won't kill you. It will save you because Christ is the minister of the sacraments and in them we encounter Him. Ultimately Jesus The Sacrament, God working in and through matter (Jesus in the flesh) to accomplish our salvation. "Through Him, with Him and in Him all glory and honor is yours almighty Father, forever and ever. Amen." Emmaus |
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135 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134609 | ||
Doc, " In John 3:5 the word "and" is not the Greek "de" but rather "kai." The former is a simple conjunction. The latter is copulative conjunction. This means that the two phrases ("water" and "spirit") occur in simultaneity. " That is exactly what the Catholic argument is. That baptism is a scrament which accomplishes what it signifies in the very act. That is simultaneously. In Baptsim we receive grace and the indwelling Holy Spirit. You having graciously made the argument for my point even better than me, I am content to left the matter rest. I will be off the Forum for at least a week after today. Emmaus |
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136 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134588 | ||
Doc, "Romish" is a pejorative term if I am not mistaken. Of course I am sure you mean no offense. Emmaus |
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137 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134587 | ||
Colin, I am no expert on Protestant theology but I assumed the Calvinist doctrine of "total depravity" was based on an understanding of original sin. As Dalcent indicated in one of his post one of the difference between Catholics and many Protesteants is how we understand the gift of justifying grace to be apprppriated. Cathloics belief that Baptism is the ordinary instrumental means of appropriating the grace of justification won by Christ on the cross. This based on Romans 6:3-6 and other verses already quoted about putting on Christ in baptism. On the other hand it seems that many Protestants seem Baptism as an ordinace that is a mere ritual, secondary to the appropriation of the grace of justification that is accomplihes via the "sinner's prayer" or a simple "confession of Christ as Savior". Emmaus |
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138 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134547 | ||
Doc, My "obligation" is my pleasure. I embrace it freely and joyfully. It is not anymore a burdensome "obligation" to me than embracing Sola Fidei, Sola Scriptura, is for you to maintain your good standing in the eyes Geneva or all other Protestants. Emmaus |
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139 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134536 | ||
Doc, "Is your interpretation of this verse (John 3:5) one that is required of you by Rome? If so, I apologize for provoking you and Dalcent by this question -- that wasn't my intent." Actually that intepretation of John 3:5 is required of Catholics. But I belived it for 45 years before I was ever aware that it was a defined position of the Church. I must say that I agree with Dalcent's position on baptism, but I found that being right is not always enough to convince people in these parts. ;-) I have been through the Baptismal wars a few times and have been an observer in many other skimishes. I have only so much time and energy. You guys can't afford to captitulate on this point without expecting to baptized in the Tiber. It would mean accepting all of Catholic Sacramental theology and swimming the Tiber (God willing and the Holy Spirit moving). And we Catholics, we only go into water far enough to be baptised into Christ. We aren't going to swim Lake Geneva. Emmaus |
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140 | Verses where water alone means baptism? | John 3:5 | Emmaus | 134522 | ||
Dalcent, Please e-mail me at spohl@bcpl.net Emmaus |
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