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101 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58528 | ||
God knows everything. He doesn't exist in time like we do. Why do you have to have all these other absolutes? As Arminians and as Calvinists. You both presuppose that He made a plan and looked down through time and picked who would be on one side of the plan and who would be on the other side, like picking teams for kick ball! Doesn't it just make more sense that He looked down through time, saw who would make what choices and planned accordingly? I'm just glad my salvation isn't dependent on either of your points of doctrine. We do agree on that, right? I mean, I am born again, I do study the Word, it has pretty much taken over my whole life, I am filled with joy, and I must love both of you because all my maternal instincts are aroused. It's really very much like when my two oldest were teenagers and I wanted to knock both their heads together. Lovingly, of course. |
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102 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58522 | ||
Created in God's image and likeness...yet totally depraved. Hmmm. Who has the view of a weak God? | ||||||
103 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58512 | ||
That was beautiful. Just beautiful. Do you know that beautiful actually means 'perfect timing'? Maybe you'll feel better if you don't think of it as infighting, but as vigorish (sp?) debate, and that this too is of the Spirit. Part of the plan to bring us together and make us realize we really are blessed that God loves us all so much. | ||||||
104 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58504 | ||
Beautiful verse isn't it. But it's one verse surrounded by others that say we have to have fellowship with Him to be covered in His blood; 1John 1:9 has a great big "if" that makes it really clear. | ||||||
105 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58495 | ||
John 3:16 says you have to believe. Jesus in His parables (in Matthew as it happens) says straight up that some just won't get it. And doesn't the Bible also say that many will love their flesh more than Jesus, even in the end of days when God is pouring out His wrath? There are your scriptures. |
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106 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58493 | ||
Jesus restored to us the place where we were before Adam chose to not believe God. Now we get to make the choice for ourselves. But you can easily do just what Adam did and choose to not believe God. The only difference is that you are only responsible for your own fall. Think of it as sin is a debt (Jesus did say "It is finished" which is what the Romans put on the documents of debts, or sentences, when they were paid). A debt puts you on the negative side of zero on the number line. Jesus paid for our sins, putting us back at zero. Accept the "free" gift and you get a credit, salvation, and you are on the positive side of zero on the number line. |
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107 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58482 | ||
Isn't Jesus pretty clear about how/why some will be saved and some won't in the parable of the sower? Matthew 13:4-9 and 18-23 When you have the words of Jesus Himself, why do you need to cling to Paul? |
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108 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58474 | ||
How awful!!! So you think John 3:16 is just bupkis? And the prophecy of Jeremiah 31:33-34 was a mistake? And what about 2Corinthians 5:18? I don't limit God at all. My Bible tells me that through God all things are possible. It also tells me that there is NO SUCH THING AS TOTAL DEPRAVITY AS YOU WOULD DESCRIBE/DEFINE IT. He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world. Wow! Suddenly I understand this Calvinism/Armenian thing and it ain't pretty, is it? |
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109 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58467 | ||
You think Jesus made salvation possible for everyone, but you are still torn. Everybody goes to Romans 9 on this predestined thing. I get it, but you start from a paradigm that I can't fit myself into. I have no problem accepting predestination. Romans 9 is blunt. But Paul didn't know everything. Jesus said there were things that were only for the Father to know. I believe the Bible is divinely inspired and is the literal Word of God. I even think Paul was dead on in Romans, but sometimes he talked about things from wisdom and some he got out of knowledge. He obviously struggled with women throughout his letters. (I freely submit to my husband and believe that I should, but it's because of God/Genesis and Jesus, not anything that ever came from Paul's pen.)I know that God gave the seperate gifts of Speaking and Translating Tongues, so I don't have a problem accepting that the Spirit was giving Paul things he didn't have a clue of how to interpret. And neither do we. And are we not told this is the way God works? Starting with Babel and going all the way to Jesus who said somethings He taught in such a way as to make sure eyes and ears WERE NOT opened? As the song says, "God is God, and I am Man. I will never understand all the picture He's painting." I can't even see all of it. So, I accept predestiny unquestioningly even though it could raise questions. I don't have them because my starting place when looking at it is that, because God knows who will or won't be part of the elect, He plans accordingly. It's not that we don't have a decision or a choice, it's that He knows what decision or choice we're going to make. It's not all that hard to wrap your brain around either. I do the same thing with my husband and children all the time. I know them; I know what choices they will make in any number of given situations; I even make plans counting on that knowledge of them. Imagine what I could do if I knew them as intimately as God knows each of us. But I want to address the "...in light of ancient Israel of how God chose just one small group of people for His inheritance. Did all of those other peoples and countries die in their sins?" Go to Genesis 5:24 "Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away." Genesis 6:8 "But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord" Then we are told right out that Abraham believed God and that was credited to him as righteousness. And these weren't perfect men. We don't know about Enoch, but Noah got drunk and cursed his own grandson (which curse God had already worked into His plan); and Abraham was fearful of earthly kings and twice stuck his wife out there as a sacrificial goat; word-playing on lies. 'Well, she is my sister so I wasn't really telling you a lie.' If not for God protecting her, Sarai/Sarah would have really been up a creek. So we know God did have relationships, saving relationships, with men before Jesus. And not just in the Seth/Noah/Shem/Abraham/David line either. Melchizedek is the perfect example. The proof that things were going on that God didn't feel like He needed to tell us. It was enough for us to know that it was going on, and He gave us that when He told us about Melchizedek. A King of Salem. Which as I understand it was in the area of Jeru-salem. Which makes sense. God didn't make Jerusalem His holy place just for the Israelites. He'd already claimed it as such, and He eventually brought His chosen people to it. Melchizedek was also the "...priest of God Most High". King and priest in one man. Something forbidden by God to the Israelites. Something that would be in the future reserved for Jesus. (Psalm 110). And read Hebrews 7:1-17. And verse 7 says clearly "And without doubt the lesser person is blessed by the greater." Melchizedek is the greater who blessed Abram/Abraham the lesser. According to verse 2 his name meant "king of righteousness" while his title (King of Salem) meant "king of peace". Verse 3 says "Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of God he remains a priest forever." So if you have a priest, you have a people who worshiped the God the priest served. Hmmm. Verse 4 says, "Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!" To my way of thinking, there was a whole people who knew God and did not die in their sins under Melchizedek; there were also those mentioned in the chosen line; so since the Bible doesn't say "and there was no one else", I'm not going to assume there was no one else. Just because He was moving about quietly, it doesn't mean He wasn't moving about. Melanie |
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110 | Christ dying only for elect? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58428 | ||
AMEN!!!! And why are we given the great commission to get out there and spread the Word? Why won't Christ be coming back until the Gospel has been preached to all the nations? Just because we don't know what choice will be made doesn't mean that God doesn't know what choices! From before we were born, He knew. He knows who will choose to believe Him and who will not, so it is predestined, but predestined according to His WHOLE PLAN. Spreading the Gospel, walking in His Way, those are part of His plan, too. | ||||||
111 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58421 | ||
Someone asked earlier where in the Scriptures it says we are given/have free will. That is part of my answer to you. Gen 1:26-27 "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule..." We were created like Him. To rule. To rule you make decisions, choices. And He gave it to us to do. God knowing everything, Adam didn't surprise Him. He didn't sit there and say, "Man! All my work and now Adam has messed it all up! I need a plan." He had a plan. Jesus, as part of the Us, knew that plan. God sent Him, but He came of His own free will. Once here though, He was a Man. That was what made the sacrifice--- legitimate. He knew our authority and our weakness as His own. He walked the walk, and showed us how it was to have been done and how to do it. We aren't going to ever walk the perfect walk the way He did, but He showed us how. If He had no right given to Him by His Father to make decisions, what was the temptation? When the devil tempted Him, He was showing us that we should use our free will to choose to be obedient also. He showed us how. He used what He tells us to use: the Word. Temptation/the devil can't stand before the Word. In the garden, He prayed 3 times to have this lifted. He was sore tempted. He didn't want it. He didn't just walk joyfully to it. And you know He had the Holy Spirit there comforting Him. It was even worse for Him than any of us. From the Beginning, before the Beginning, He was God, the Son of the Holy Trinity of Father-Son-and-Holy Ghost; the triune God. Even as a Man, He was fruit of woman; not the seed of man (who just open-eyed walked into disobedience out of choice). So as such as He was, He was NEVER seperated from God, as we are, by sin. And He was God; part of the Trinity. Yet He was about to take on sin. Our sin, but still, sin. And when you are covered in sin, you are severed from God. What Jesus did is the equivalent of God cutting out His own heart! The devil thought when he got Adam to eat that he "would surely die", and really be DEAD DEAD, as in cease to exist. At all. He is a spirit creature. You severe his spirit and he is DEAD DEAD. But Man is spirit and flesh; when we fell, our spirit was severed from the Holy Spirit; again, part of that triune God. But when we were created that Holy Spirit was breathed into us, and that gave our flesh life; and became part of what we are. Spirit and flesh. So when we were severed from God, the Holy Spirit, we had this back up battery called a soul that was inside of us. Part of the spirit. Maintained by our flesh now. But if our flesh dies without that soul having been restored to the Holy Spirit, then our spirit truly dies and Satan gets that death he was after in the first place. Now we know Abraham was credited with righteousness because he believed God, but Jesus came along so that all people would know how it worked. Believe God, your spirit is restored, you don't die when your flesh dies. Jesus didn't just choose to die in the flesh, as the sacrifice for our sins, He chose to die in the spirit. He had to; He died covered in sin. For three days, He was dead. Dead Dead. And you think He wasn't scared? He sweated blood over this. He knew this was the only way, but He was still begging God to check just one more time, three more times, to see if there wasn't another way! So yes, I am saying Jesus had a choice. But I'm also saying that God knows everything. We don't know what choices we'll make, but He does. Just as He gives us the choice, He gave Jesus the choice. And He was in it. Not above it, not beyond it; in it. He knew what choice He wanted to make. He wanted to be obedient to God. He was determined to be obedient to God. But He had a choice. Read your Scriptures. Didn't He straight up ask Peter, don't you think I could call the angels? I could, means He chose not to use power and authority He knew He had. He could...but He chose not to. We can ignore the Holy Spirit when it is speaking to us. It is a Helper, as defined by Jesus Himself, but we're the boss. That's why we die. Unless we give ourselves to Jesus, making Him the boss. You call it "direction" implanted within us, the Bible says it is knowledge planted on/in our hearts. That's why if we choose not to believe, not to be obedient, it's on our own heads. The knowledge of the way back is there. Read your last sentence. The Holy Spirit/God influences us. If it was just about making us do what He wants us to do, He could have stopped this whole mess with Adam. He influences, persuades, convinces, convicts--but He doesn't force. That's what makes Him so particularly awesome, beautiful and wonderful. He is all powerful, but He gave us free will, and He sticks by that; He doesn't take it back. Which must break His heart since it means He's going to lose some of us when He loves all of us. |
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112 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58346 | ||
I know this was a while back but I'm new to this bulletin and I felt like the one answer I could find to your question wasn't quite sufficient. Jesus did say "not my will but your will be done", but He was CHOOSING to take that path. That was His perfection. He lived His life in PERFECT obedience to the Will of God. If He had not done that by choice, you are right, it would have been meaningless. When Man fell, it was all of us by Adam's choice to not be obedient. When Jesus died, He chose to be obedient, which made Him perfect, and being perfect He was an acceptable sacrifice to pay the price for all sinners. He made His choice to give us, so that we could have a choice. Before His death and resurrection, we were all stuck with Adam's choice. We are predestined to glory now, because we have the choice again. We're right back where Adam was before the Fall. An individual, me, you, we have the choice. Jesus gave that choice back to us with the choice He made. You have to make to your choice now. God told Adam, 'eat the fruit and you shall surely die'. The devil comes along and says, 'you shall not surely die'. Adam ate the fruit, so who did he believe? Now you and I have the same choice, who/what do we believe? John 3:16 tells us the choice (whosoever shall believe in Him), John 3:17 tells us which choice God wants us to make, but the choice is ours. Hope that helps. Melanie |
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113 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58340 | ||
The devil is going to go after those who are doing God's work. That's a fact. When we are choosing leaders, I would say yes, to Timothy and Titus verses. But where does it say NEVER again if you fall??? I have been taught since being saved to never say 'never and God' in the same sentence. I have been taught that if I repent my sins and am forgiven. I am a new creature. God literally forgets my sins once I have repented and He has forgiven. If I am reading you correctly, you are saying forgiving him doesn't mean restoring him. Forgive him, but strip him of the fruits of being forgiven. If his repentence is sincere, and their forgiveness is sincere, where is your scriptural basis for this punishment after repentance and forgiveness? Especially since such a punishment would rob him of his livelihood, his home, his wife's livelihood, and his children's home? What message would such a course teach his children and those seminary students about repentence and forgiveness? The Bible doesn't say forgive and punish, and just because he wasn't a leader doesn't mean we should start ad-libbing. If it's not in the Word, don't do it. Wouldn't the devil love it if this man of God was restored, yet barred from continuing to teach the Good News because we put conditions on the forgiveness!!! |
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114 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58338 | ||
Kalos, Read 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 where Paul refers to the verses in 1 Corinthians 5 which you quoted. 2 Cor 2:5-11 (NIV) If anyone has caused grief, he has not so much grieved me as he has grieved all of you, to some extent--not to put it too severely. [6] The punishment inflicted on him by the majority is sufficient for him. [7] Now instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. [8] I urge you, therefore, to reaffirm your love for him. [9] The reason I wrote you was to see if you would stand the test and be obedient to everything. [10] If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven--if there was anything to forgive--I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, [11] in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes. Melanie |
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115 | Church is kidnapped to Sodom! | James 2:8 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58336 | ||
In one of his letters Paul is writing about the eating of meat sacrificed at the altars of idols. He says he doesn't think it's a sin because there is no other god but God. He says if its in the market place, don't ask where the meat came from, just eat it. He says if its offered in someone's house, don't ask where the meat came from, just eat it. But he says if someone tells you it is meat from an idol altar sacrifice, don't eat it. He says don't eat it NOT because to do so is sin (it isn't), but because the guy down the table may think it's a sin (which would make it a sin for him to eat it) but he'll see you eating it and think he can get away with it too. THEN you're sinning by eating it because you have led someone else to sin because they used/viewed you as their example. The Bible also says, if your brother sins you must rebuke him; then when he repents you must forgive him. Your pastor has sinned. He has 'eaten meat' that he KNOWS is a sin AND he has sinned by his example since at least you know about it. But our job isn't to judge him. We just point out what he's done, rebuke him, so he has a chance to repent. Who knows? Maybe he has already done that, repented the act itself, and has been forgiven. But has he repented of the example he set for you? Paul also says that we aren't to give offense, but obviously his actions have offended. You are sitting there in prayer and worship and thinking about what he has done instead of prayer and worship! No church is going to be perfect until Jesus is ready to return, but we have to STRIVE for it. We also have to stay in that church unless God leads us to leave it. Don't be run out of your church or church period by the actions of one. Love him, pray for him, and tell him the turmoil and offense he has created in you. You need to forgive him for you. |
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116 | more evidence(??) 'horn' is spirit | Luke 1:69 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58335 | ||
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117 | our 'horn' as the state of our soul? | Not Specified | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58334 | ||
Our Sunday school class is unhappy with simple 'horn of salvation' definition (strength)presented by our lesson book. So I was asked to do research on the term. I have studied the roots and various verses and am leaning towards something else. Started with root word used in OT about Moses's shining face. Amused to read scholars at one time argued the scripture meant he'd grown horns. That shining lead me to other verses and all used the same Hebrew root "arq" for horn. Which is a verb meaning 'to shine'. Of strength, but also rays of light. Verse-- I can't remember the book but says, "hannah said....my horn is exalted in Your salvation". and Jeremiah 48:25 "...horn of Moab cut off and his arm broken..." The Hebrew of cut off is 'cut in two', 'severed', the broken goes to 'shattered', the arm is 'strength' or 'political or military forces'; so-- the strength of Moab was severed and his strength was shattered?'. Repetitive but have found alot of that in the Bible, but still couldn't get away from that 'to shine' and 'of rays of light' in the root Hebrew though. So I went to various NT verses that use 'light' (Matt and Lu). Found Greek word fwUV which root means "to shine or make manifest by rays". Same as Hebrew 'arq' used for horn. Psalms 75:10 says the 'horns of the wicked' will be cut off and the 'horns of the righteous' will be lifted up. I've always just read that as everybody having 'horns', but now I'm thinking each of the individual wicked has a 'horn' and each of the individual righteous has a 'horn', making horns for each group. So if the 'horn' of the wicked is severed (no salvation-no victory); likewise if the 'horn' of the righteous is lifted up (salvation-victory). Read that word for 'lifted up' also means 'raised or reared like children' and 'lifted off and contributed or presented'. Spirit was severed by sin, death. Likewise our spirit is exalted by righteousness, life. Our 'horn' by this verse will be lifted up--raised, like a child (infants in Christ); lifted off and presented to Jesus/God. (God's victory completed when Jesus presents everything back to Him) Psalm 18:2 and 2Samuel 22:3 both say God is 'the horn of my salvation'. The NT says Jesus is 'the light of the world'; both speak directly to our victory (God's victory) over death. My question: Could 'horn' be defined as our spirit or the state of our soul? Making 'horn of salvation' mean something more like 'our souls being in a state of grace; shining with the light of truth, victory, salvation? |
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118 | our 'horn' as the state of our soul? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58348 | ||
Our Sunday school class is unhappy with simple 'horn of salvation' definition (strength)presented by our lesson book. So I was asked to do research on the term. I have studied the roots and various verses and am leaning towards something else. Started with root word used in OT about Moses's shining face. Amused to read scholars at one time argued the scripture meant he'd grown horns. That shining lead me to other verses and all used the same Hebrew root "arq" for horn. Which is a verb meaning 'to shine'. Of strength, but also rays of light. Verse-- I can't remember the book but says, "hannah said....my horn is exalted in Your salvation". and Jeremiah 48:25 "...horn of Moab cut off and his arm broken..." The Hebrew of cut off is 'cut in two', 'severed', the broken goes to 'shattered', the arm is 'strength' or 'political or military forces'; so-- the strength of Moab was severed and his strength was shattered?'. Repetitive but have found alot of that in the Bible, but still couldn't get away from that 'to shine' and 'of rays of light' in the root Hebrew though. So I went to various NT verses that use 'light' (Matt and Lu). Found Greek word fwUV which root means "to shine or make manifest by rays". Same as Hebrew 'arq' used for horn. Psalms 75:10 says the 'horns of the wicked' will be cut off and the 'horns of the righteous' will be lifted up. I've always just read that as everybody having 'horns', but now I'm thinking each of the individual wicked has a 'horn' and each of the individual righteous has a 'horn', making horns for each group. So if the 'horn' of the wicked is severed (no salvation-no victory); likewise if the 'horn' of the righteous is lifted up (salvation-victory). Read that word for 'lifted up' also means 'raised or reared like children' and 'lifted off and contributed or presented'. Spirit was severed by sin, death. Likewise our spirit is exalted by righteousness, life. Our 'horn' by this verse will be lifted up--raised, like a child (infants in Christ); lifted off and presented to Jesus/God. (God's victory completed when Jesus presents everything back to Him) Psalm 18:2 and 2Samuel 22:3 both say God is 'the horn of my salvation'. The NT says Jesus is 'the light of the world'; both speak directly to our victory (God's victory) over death. My question: Could 'horn' be defined as our spirit or the state of our soul? Making 'horn of salvation' mean something more like 'our souls being in a state of grace; shining with the light of truth, victory, salvation? |
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