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101 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28467 | ||
ethan, Seems very well we are on the same page of agreement. My post that sparked yours here was simply to see how you come to your conclusions. How scripture lines up to your conclusions etc. Hope you dont feel like I was testing your FAITH, when actually I was trying to find where your reasoning was sparked. Let us continue together to glean from this Forum and what the LORD has for us. Question for you: If our names were written before the foundations of the world in the Lambs Book of Life. Does that mean, the names that are blotted out, are the ones that dont accept the free GIFT of Jesus and what HE did for us, thereby, blaspeming the HOLY SPIRIT? Take a look at the posts found in the question about, Can we lose our salvation?. **SHALOM** |
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102 | when you talk to God... | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28470 | ||
tracebrown, 1Corinthians 12:1-11, key vs being 7. The purpose of the gift. Edifying the Body of Christ. 1Corinthians 14:2 ...the verse your posting. It does not say (unknown) tongue. Actually, it is a known tongue being discussed in this chapter. Looking further into this letter, Paul states in verse 10-12, "There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them are without significance. Therefore, I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. Even so, since your are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the chruch that you seek to excel." Paul is speaking of a known language and how it should be administered. If you notice, Paul defined what tongue is being used, a known language. And we see that without having to consult a Concordance or Dictionary. But let us do that anyway for the sake of seeking knowledge and truth. "tongue", being used is defined: GLOSSA (Greek), a tongue [by implication a language] (specifically one naturally unaquired) Strongs Concordance and Dictionary IF you have access to a Vines Expository Dictionary. You will find a more direct definition to the word being used in these verses as well as others. All in all, a known language is being uttered. Again, in vs 12 Paul directs us to what we should be doing in the first place. EDIFYING the church with this gift. vs 4, "He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself..." Is this what the chapter is trying to get us to do, build ourselves up? Paul is stating the tongue does edify self, but it isnt to be used for that. It is a part of the Body needed to edify the Body. vs 5, "I wish you all spoke in tongues..." Is Paul implying that all "Do" or "Should" speak in tongues? vs 13,14, "Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For If I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but MY UNDERSTANDING IS UNFRUITFUL." I dont think Paul is saying because my spirit is praying my mind doesnt/shouldnt have to know what Im praying about or for. How can YOU say AMEN to your own prayer if you dont know what your praying? vs 17, "For you indeed give thanks well, but the other is not edified." Is Paul letting us know thats its ok to pray in a tongue? YES, but its UNFRUITFUL for the hearer. Paul is letting us know that speaking in tongues ISNT ALL THAT AND A BAG of CHIPS. or, is what Paul states next an incorrect view on my part? vs 18-20,"I thank my God I speak with tongues more than you all, yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that I may teach others also, than ten thousand words in a tongue." Does Paul mean he would like to speak in a tongue with the understanding - he doesnt have to understand - what he is saying or praying? He did say in verse (19), he would like to teach others also. What does he want to teach? vs 26, "...Let all things be done for edification." The chapter we find is speaking of the Body being edified. vs 28, "..if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church. Let him speak to himself and to God." Does this mean its ok to pray outloud in church even if someone next to you can hear you? What if your pastor says to pray in tongues outloud in church, do you/should you? vs 33, "For God is not the author of confusion but of peace..." With the tongues being used in churches today, does it not resemble what Paul was trying to correct? I pray (with my understanding) we can find a conclusion to hold onto. **SHALOM** |
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103 | Define "praying in the Holy Spirit" | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28472 | ||
Nolan, Are you referencing John MacArthur's ...Study Bible? If so, is it true that He doesnt believe that tongues is to be used today, that it vanished at the end of some certain dispinsation along with prohesying? But the other gifts didnt ? D *SHALOM* |
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104 | Is private speaking in tongues Biblical? | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28473 | ||
retxar, that is what Paul is trying to say, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF .... it isnt edidying the body to speak/pray in a tongue unless it is edifying the body. But he also states in vs 14, that if he prays this way his understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? Check out my post to tracebrown ... I believe we are all on the same page ..ya think? |
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105 | Define "praying in the Holy Spirit" | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28475 | ||
Robert, According to Acts2:4, they spoke with other tongues. glossa, being the word in GK, tongue (by implication a known language) It does make this miracle of speaking in tongues greater if we believe the ones speaking were actually hearing themselves speak Galilean. But the ones hearing - their perspective dialect. But I personally dont think this is what is being said. I believe they knew what they were saying wasnt thier own language but they knew what they were saying (the Spirit giving them understanding either during or after) as well as the hearer. *SHALOM* |
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106 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28518 | ||
Question: Who are the elect? I ask because if God only wrote the elect in...who is the ones blotted out that we see in other verses? For sake of arguement...i too believe once saved ...always. But I am of the ilk that thinks "God so loved the world..." he wrote all names in the Book...and those who dont come to the saving knowledge are blotted out. Thus, blaspheming the HS. D *SHALOM* |
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107 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28523 | ||
kalos, How i so enjoy this time...but alas, I cannot stick around and parlay with you. I will return when I can give scriptual ref's to all I post. I figured you would have looked up these ref's and let me sit back and relax. LOL I will return asap and we can continue with this wonderful dialogue. *shalom* D |
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108 | Define "praying in the Holy Spirit" | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 28569 | ||
Nolan, I know you consider it to be legitimate today. I do also enjoy John MacArthur as a teacher of the Word. He has WONDERFUL insight and wisdom. Thank you for the web addy...i have it. But, I do believe he doesnt think the gifts of prophecy, tongues, healings is still prevelant. Hope I am wrong. I know another one of my favorite teachers believes they are gone. Chuck Swindoll...he and a few others from Dallas Seminary have the same beliefs. *SHALOM* D |
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109 | When will I speak/pray in tongues? | Acts 2:6 | The Disciple | 29297 | ||
o-yeah, o-yeah, the honorable Servant7 has jest arrived. all rise and turn your backs on the pheasant. LOL good to see you my sweet Brutha.....*S* D ps: work on your spellchecking ...K??? |
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110 | Why LJC instead of just Jesus? | Acts 16:31 | The Disciple | 27250 | ||
Peace ALL, The name of GOD is very HOLY to the Hebrew and G_d is usually written in a incomplete manner. The L_rd is a very important and AWESOME name to them. This is done respectfully to who HE is and who they are. The Master and the clay, etc. In the O.T.: El Shaddai, Jehovah Shalom, Jehovah Nissi, and the other names stated throughout are in reference to who G_d was/is/will be. Each reference of HIS name can be seen as a character of who HE is and the attribute HE personified to the individual(s). As you read of HIS names maybe you too can think of when HE was Jehovah Shalom...the Lord of Peace during a time you needed peace. Or when HE was your Banner when you needed a forerunner. HIS name is most remarkable when you make it personal to yourself. Did you notice that when the Christ child was to be born we were told HE would be "called" Emmanuelle? "God with Us". Yet HIS name is "Jesus" - Joshua(Jeshua) which means Jehovah-saved. With Emmanuelle can we assume that it wasnt HIS name but HIS character we were being taught? If so, then can Jesus be the fulfillment of all the names of G_d in the OT and the attributes of HIS name? Be a Berean: Acts 17:11 ... Lord dont let me convolute the story ... *SHALOM* |
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111 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | The Disciple | 27251 | ||
Blessings to ALL, What a wonderful forum we all have here. Its so nice to see bretheren loving on each other with encouragement and exhortations!! Hope you dont mind if I put in my two mites. The Lord admonished us to keep an eye out during this time throughout the NT and in the OT. We find in Proverbs 15:28a, "The heart of the righteous studies how to answer...". The only way for us to know when what we hear or see being promoted as GOD is to look at the PLUMB line. the BIBLE. In order for us to know a counterfeit;we need to know what the TRUE is. Staying in HIS Word is the most important factor in all this. Finding study helps to guide you thru is important for all Disciples. Using a Strongs Exhaustive Concordance and a Vines Complete Expository Dictionary will be most helpful with personal studies. As you grow - other helps are available to us. Like this website. Learn also, to keep only that which is "..noble, lovely, profitable" and cast off that which is not. Godspeed to you all, Discipled *SHALOM* |
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112 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | The Disciple | 27373 | ||
Marie, GLORY to HIM in the highest....His love letter to us is the most wonderful thing we can ever EXPERIENCE.....LORD bless you discipled |
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113 | No Joyce Meyer?????????????????? | Acts 17:11 | The Disciple | 27374 | ||
Shell, It is a total pleasure to speak HIS truth the best I know how....sometimes i wish i was more eloquent and compassionate. But I can only be me with HIS leading....Lord Bless you always. discipled |
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114 | Do holy people have to speak in tongues? | 1 Cor 12:30 | The Disciple | 28771 | ||
Searcher, Ive seen this mentioned a couple of times now in this forum. But I cannot find scripture to substantiate that claim. Where is Satan copying the speaking in tongues? *SHALOM* D |
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115 | Do holy people have to speak in tongues? | 1 Cor 12:30 | The Disciple | 28773 | ||
ezekiel, what a wonderful testimony you have. Praise the LORD and all HIS grace. IF you have a chance, in the search part of this forum, type in Acts 2:6 as the search area. Read all the posts given by all the writers and readers. I truly hope you will be blessed by all of our words of affirmation, encouragement, love and understanding. The Word of God is so very important for our lives. John 15:7 says, "If You abide in ME and my WORDS abide IN YOU, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you." IF we are truly abiding in HIM as a branch of HIS true vine, then we wont let our experiences be the only thing that holds us to HIM. Let us keep praising HIM for these things and continue to use them to show others (not of HIM) how HE has saved, healed, delivered us from ourselves. We really dont need to use our experiences to prove to our brothers we are saved or have unfailing faith. The Holy Spirit gives us gifts as HE wills for one reason. In 1 Corinthians 12,13,14 we learn why and what for. All gifts are for ONE specific reason and that is to EDIFY THE CHURCH. Let us all continue in this way and ALSO continue in abiding in Jesus and and WORDS. May HE Bless you continually, **SHALOM** D |
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116 | Are the gifts of the spirit for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | The Disciple | 28774 | ||
Blessings !! I just read your post about the gifts not being in operation today. My first question is, how do we edify the church without them? Without these gifts being utilized how do we come to a unity of faith? Is there a Unity today of faith? Is there a fullgrown man today? You stated because the law is perfect (sighting James) the gifts arent needed. 1Corinthinas says, "...when that which is perfect has come." I am presuming that you believe the canonical scripture as being "that which is perfect". My next question then is what about the 7 thunders mentioned in Revelation? These havent been written about, so how can the scriptures be perfect(complete)? Forgive me for not reading all you have posted, you may have tried to answer these questions in your post. I will read it when I have more time. I just had to reply right away with what I had seen in a quick glance at your post. *Shalom* D |
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117 | Are the gifts of the spirit for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | The Disciple | 28777 | ||
Another thought crossed my mind as I was reading 1Corinthian 13. vs 12, "For NOW we see in a mirror, dimly, but THEN face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I am known." See what in a mirror? Most likely this is the Word of God, that which was spoken to them. What does it mean by dimly? Probably that they didnt understand all about the Gospel of Jesus, since the NT wasnt written, but in the process of being written. With the lives of the writers, etc. But "then face to face". ?? If context is is about the use of the spiritual gifts. We saw in vs 10, "..then that which is in part will be done away." We know the gifts are IN PART. What is face to face all about then? For me, this is the moment when we are with our LORD JESUS, the only thing that IS PERFECT, COMPLETE. "NOW I know in part, but THEN I shall know as I am known." Was this a prophetic reference by Paul that he will be known in the New Testament? Did he have that knowledge of his destiny? That is, if the canon is what that which is perfect. But what is face to face all about? If it isnt with our LORD than what is he referring? ...Lord dont let me convolute your story... *SHALOM* D |
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118 | Are the gifts of the spirit for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | The Disciple | 28778 | ||
: Another thought crossed my mind as I was reading 1Corinthian 13. vs 12, "For NOW we see in a mirror, dimly, but THEN face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I am known." See what in a mirror? Most likely this is the Word of God, that which was spoken to them. What does it mean by dimly? Probably that they didnt understand all about the Gospel of Jesus, since the NT wasnt written, but in the process of being written. With the lives of the writers, etc. But "then face to face". ?? If context is is about the use of the spiritual gifts. We saw in vs 10, "..then that which is in part will be done away." We know the gifts are IN PART. What is face to face all about then? For me, this is the moment when we are with our LORD JESUS, the only thing that IS PERFECT, COMPLETE. "NOW I know in part, but THEN I shall know as I am known." Was this a prophetic reference by Paul that he will be known in the New Testament? Did he have that knowledge of his destiny? That is, if the canon is what that which is perfect. But what is face to face all about? If it isnt with our LORD than what is he referring? ...Lord dont let me convolute your story... *SHALOM* D |
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119 | Are the gifts of the spirit for today? | 1 Cor 13:8 | The Disciple | 28899 | ||
luke55, I totally agree with the gifts being in effect today. If your familiar with using the Search tool in here. Type in Acts 2:6 in the search mode and check out all the posts about this subject. And get back to me.... **SHALOM** |
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120 | Is coveting with a pure heart Godly? | James 4:3 | The Disciple | 29899 | ||
Nolan, Thanks for the timely response. I guess the question I pose can be seen as an oxymoron?? I am of the ilk that our motives shouldnt be for gain of self in any way shape or form. Yet, a question still remains. How is it teachers/pastors follow a principal to give to get to give. Believing that what is sown now will be reaped later on? And that is the motive for the sowing...to reap later on so as to sow again. Quite a turnstile, ya think?? :) *Shalom* D |
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