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1 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 66125 | ||
If I have caused you grief then please accept my appologies, that was not my intentions. It has been made PERFECTLY clear, by several, that I am not welcome here. Unfortunatly, because I voice my opinions rather than telling you what you WANT to hear, and because of my screen name, you condemn me and asked me to leave. I think it is a GREAT lose to all of you which was caused by a select few. "ZEROTHEORY" and the "ZERO" theory will never be seen here again. AS YOU WISH... Good Bye |
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2 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 66124 | ||
If I have caused you grief then please accept my appologies, that was not my intentions. It has been made PERFECTLY clear, by several, that I am not welcome here. Unfortunatly, because I voice my opinions rather than telling you what you WANT to hear, and because of my screen name, you condemn me and asked me to leave. I think it is a GREAT lose to all of you which was caused by a select few. "ZEROTHEORY" and the "ZERO" theory will never be seen here again. AS YOU WISH... Good Bye |
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3 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 66123 | ||
If I have caused you grief then please accept my appologies, that was not my intentions. It has been made PERFECTLY clear, by several, that I am not welcome here. Unfortunatly, because I voice my opinions rather than telling you what you WANT to hear, and because of my screen name, you condemn me and asked me to leave. I think it is a GREAT lose to all of you which was caused by a select few. "ZEROTHEORY" and the "ZERO" theory will never be seen here again. AS YOU WISH... Good Bye |
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4 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 66057 | ||
[Quote form LionStrong]The basis of math is logic. The basis of logic is the logical/resonable mind of the Triune God of the Bible in whose image we are created. Atheism, for example, gives no adequate basis for math. Since man is the chance product of the impersonal-plus-time-plus-chance evolutionary processes, his logic is a product of chance. Man has evolved to think, and to think the way he thinks, and to think that he's really thinking! He could have evolved differently. He therefore has no reason to believe that the evolutionary processes would not have evolved a different logic where two plus two equals five. In contras to this, God reveals himself in Scripture as eternal and immutable. Therefore reason and logic are eternal and immutable in God in whose image we are created. Therefore math is not an evolutionary illusion. Peace, ******END QUOTE***************** I'm sorry LionStrong but I'm not really sure what it is that you are saying, I can interpret what you have said several different ways. One, it sounds like you are saying God has reason and logic, which is eternal, and since God created man in his image that we too have reason and logic which comes from God. If this is the case then are you saying God willed me the "ZERO" theory? Two, I have no idea what you are saying about the atheist. It seems like you are saying they think they can think because of evolution or chance when in reality it is not really them thinking at all??? Let me make a simple point: It was you, LionStrong, who said "mathematics does not work without the number 0".(I will add: at least not functionally) This is my case and point, man does not function properly without God. What I find intersting about this forum is that there are many people who seem to be offended by the "ZERO" theory even though they know very little about it. I actually thought it would be something people would embrace and try to learn more about rather then judge and condemn before they even know anything about it. |
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5 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65971 | ||
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6 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65969 | ||
Skrittt, Are you sure you didn't mean too difficult of a question? |
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7 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65967 | ||
Skrittt, You asked for it, then what makes sense to YOU? |
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8 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65965 | ||
Skrittt, Yes, God is not "nothingness". God is everything that is, was, or can ever be... I have already said, God is God. He has no characteristics. |
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9 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65963 | ||
Is mathematics biblically BASED? | ||||||
10 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65961 | ||
Skrittt, "Nothingness" does not exist, it cannot exist. If it existed it would be "something". Take away everything, air, water, land, earth, light, all the planets, space itself, everything! What are you left with? (hint: it's not nothing) (Characteristic: A feature that helps to identify, tell apart, or describe recognizably; a distinguishing mark or trait.) |
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11 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65960 | ||
Skrittt, "Nothingness" does not exist, it cannot exist. If it existed it would be "something". Take away everything, air, water, land, earth, light, all the planets, space itself, everything! What are you left with? (hint: it's not nothing) (Characteristic: A feature that helps to identify, tell apart, or describe recognizably; a distinguishing mark or trait.) |
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12 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65956 | ||
Skrittt, Does "NOTHINGNESS" exist? |
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13 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65954 | ||
Skritt, Does "nothingness" exist? |
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14 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65949 | ||
[Quote from Skritt] "so you are saying that God had no characteristics before creation?" I'm not sure if you are trying to load this question or not but it all depends on what you mean by characteristics. God is God, always and forever. He has no characteristics. |
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15 | bottom line effect | Dan 1:4 | zerotheory | 65946 | ||
Dennis, Please do NOT insult me or God by suggesting that I am trying to rename Him to zero. Nowhere in this forum have I came close to suggesting anything of the sort, SHAME ON YOU! "Zero has, for you, become an alternative to the God of the bible". This is completely not true. God to me is the same God in the bible, as I have said to Pastor Glenn, "He is the only God". Let me ask you, how do people find God? Is there only one avenue going one direction? No, first they start by looking. They scout out information from friends, relatives, books, etc. Different people are of different foundations and discover things in a different way. All the "ZERO" theory does is provide another route that leads directly to Gods door, the bible. It is simply a tool that can be used to show a factual learner facts that may interest them. What is it about the "ZERO" theory that seems to scare you? |
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16 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65933 | ||
[quote from Skritt] "concerning God being good, you say that He is above good, but how so? what does that mean? So since the only thing that existed eternally was God himself... without characteristics? was he as formless and void as the earth before creation? He had no characteristics at all? explain yourself." ***********END QUOTE************ "Good" is a description, it also insinuates the opposite if "bad/evil". God is beyond that, there is nothing that is opposite of God. You cannot limit God to "good" because he is more than that. "GOOD" is limited, God is limitless. "So since the only thing that existed eternally was God himself... without characteristics? was he as formless and void as the earth before creation? He had no characteristics at all? explain yourself." God is before everything, He is before space itself. Imagine no space, no time, no planets, no light, NO anything. Absent everything else there is still something, always has been, always will be, it is the eternity of God. Oh, it just so happens "0" proves that mathematically. Also, I never said all sin comes form God. |
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17 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65917 | ||
[Quote from Joe] "The better question would be, "Why does He allow evil to exist?" -Joe! ******END QUOTE************* Because if there was no evil there could be no good. Good and Evil depend on each other for their existence. Without one the other would become "normal". Joe, with all that you know how is it that you can't see that God is above "GOOD". God is limitless, and "GOOD" places a limit. Is there not anything higher than "GOOD"? It won't matter how "good" you are or how much "good" you do, it can't equal God. "Good" is limited. |
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18 | So...what is your theory? | Gen 1:26 | zerotheory | 65907 | ||
[Quote from LionStrong] Again, the purpose of the forum is Bible study. It is not to propegate one's unbiblical philosophy. If you wish to continue to justify your unbiblical philosophy to me, my e-mail address is in my personal profile. Col 2:3, "in [Christ] are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." not Anaximander. Peace, ************END QUOTE**************** Sorry LionStrong, My intentions are not to "propegate one's unbiblical philosophy", actually quite the contrary. Everything I have said in the forum is biblically related, and I have never suggested that Anaximander did anything but make an observation. It is not Anaximander that came up with the "ZERO" theory. There has been nothing said about the "ZERO" theory that is not related to or cannot be refernced by scripture. What is it that you so afraid of? |
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19 | Question about the "ZERO" theory. | Dan 1:4 | zerotheory | 65897 | ||
[quote from Pastor Glenn] Within your original thread you will notice question marks near a few of the replies if you scroll to the bottom of the window. You should notice two set of questions from me. From your original post I was wondering if you were a christian (by accepting Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God, as your saviour). By the way, I think that you may find the book of Daniel quite interesting. Daniel 1:4 Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans. ********END QUOTE************** Pastor Glenn, I am going to exercise Gods will onto me and *choose* not to answer your question at this time. What I will tell you is that God exists, my God is the same God as yours(the one and only), and that God loves us all. Also, what is it, specifically, that I might find in the book of Daniel? I see [1:4]"Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king’s palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans." (Chaldeans:A person versed in occult learning) (Occult:Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable.)(Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.)(adj : having an import not apparent to the senses nor obvious to the intelligence; beyond ordinary understanding) Please elaborate your intentions. |
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20 | "I make peace, and create evil" | Is 45:7 | zerotheory | 65887 | ||
[Quote from Skrittt] "concerning the verse isaiah 45:7, notice that the word hebrew word being used there is Ra which refers to evil in the sense of destruction or situationally bad things (not morally bad things). Rasha is the hebrew word for moral evil, not ra. so the thing here is trnslation of the word in hebrew and the understanding of the word evil as it is used in this passage. the definition of evil as definied by webster: 1 a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED, an evil impulse b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct, a man of evil reputation 2 a archaic : INFERIOR b : causing discomfort or repulsion : OFFENSIVE, an evil odor, c : DISAGREEABLE woke late and in an evil temper 3 a : causing harm : PERNICIOUS ,the evil institution of slavery, b : marked by misfortune : UNLUCKY pay attention to 2 and 3, for these are the definitions of evil being used in the isaiah passage. again, the hebrew word for evil used in the passage is Ra which refers to definitions 2 and 3 above. I must also state again that moral evil is not a thing that is created; it has always existed, just as moral good has always existed. both hinge on the existence of God. with no God, there would be no eternal reference point for either, making both obsolete. God is good, and what is not of God is evil." *******END QUOTE****** I'm sorry but I'm gonna need to disagree with you. The only thing that has always existed is God himself, there is no eternal existence of "moral good" and "moral evil". Since God is the only thing that is eternal then **ALL** "good" AND **ALL** "evil" came from him, by him, and the scripture says so. I'm sorry, but I don't think we can pick and choose the definitions that work best just because we don't want to believe them. I don't think it is fair to say "this isn't the interpretaion he ment". God is the pinnacle, he is above both "good" and "evil", and he is neither. He created both for a reason and I think it should be asked, why did God create "EVIL"? |
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