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1 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157671 | ||
no! i think it would be unwise to be confident in my salvation. as we all have things to work on in ourselves. even if we don't offend outwardly (in actions), we still offend inwardly (in thoughts). we must continually strive for improvement, but i am confident, in the hope, that i might be saved! it's the Lord's way of keeping us humble. the more we read (and contemplate), the more we realize that we need work! i hope i am understanding your question. | ||||||
2 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157662 | ||
that's all i was implying. thank you. | ||||||
3 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157655 | ||
p.s. just because something is not to be taken literally, doesn't mean its not factual! or shall we look for a seven headed dragon to rise out of the ocean? | ||||||
4 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157652 | ||
you guys are the modern day pharisses and sadducees! go report that hank. | ||||||
5 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157651 | ||
first off i did not suggest that anything had to do with any one person. that was the comment of someone else. second, since there is no temple now, and there are plans to build one, are the two not connected? that is the new temple may serve as the platform for these things to occur? | ||||||
6 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157650 | ||
well, not all biblical writings are allegorical; but many of them are. the red dragon in revelations, and the beasts in daniel, are all allegorical representations of future events! empires to be exact! Christ himself taught in parables to the masses. and who is it as you say, that presents it as factual information? is it not yourselves? as i have said, and grow weary of saying; i only asked a question! to get feed back, not patronized. | ||||||
7 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157647 | ||
you obviously only get what you want to get out of posts on this forum! do you lack simple comprehension? you blow YOUR horn loud enough to drown out every one else. i was not dismissing anything that interpreters of times past have said, but as you should know, man can only observe what happens in his lifetime! just as daniel couldn't fully understand his visions because they had not been played out yet! and besides, i have adressed you personally at least twice with no response, it seems you only try to stab people when their back is turned to you. but i'm not suprised, it seems you dont process most of what you read! ominous | ||||||
8 | What is the abomination of desolation? | Matt 24:15 | ominous | 157600 | ||
thanks for the response kalos, aside from the opinions of interpreters, isnt it plausible that the antichrist is not necessarily one man but a nation or power structure? or even a system? as when stated in revelations 1316-17 that those who would not recieve the mark... now to have a "mark" in your forehead or right hand could this not symbolize concurrence with, or support of a system, or philsophy? as in your forehead could mean, to "believe" and right hand, to "uphold"? i know there are many folds to the scriptures, as things tend to cycle back around as said in ecclesiastes 1:9 "the thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." also note that it says in revelations 13:18, " let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man," does not necessarily mean an individual man, as the number six also signifies the day in which man was made. no contention, just curiousity; as i have always been one to seek, and not follow. oominous. | ||||||
9 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | ominous | 155419 | ||
well, for me to fully give my testimony would be too long. But i will say that before i came to personally know the Lord, and feel his influence in my life, I thought life was pretty much hopeless. "We live to die" i used to say. I always believed in Jesus, and God; but i felt they played a "passive" role at best in our lives. I always tried to read the bible, but could never get past Genesis 10. It all seemed unreal somehow, I guess it wasn't my time yet. I tried different churches, but never really felt comfortable. i asked questions, but never felt satisfied with the answers i recieved. So i prayed, and prayed, and read, and read; then something strange happened. it all started to make sense. My faith grew, and the things i read started to play themselves out in my life. Deepening my faith! i started to change little by little, the people i called friends, the places i went, the things i did, etc. Not by effort, but they just lost the appeal they once had. Then came the persecution. my family primarily (who had always called themselves Christians) also my ex-wife (that was a hard decision to make) began to refer to the Bible as "that book" i had it comming at me from every angle possible! i almost lost my footing as i was quite young in the faith, one night at my ex-wife's families house while i was under attack so to say, as they were bringing up my past, I went outside to be alone and pray. Now I know that this will sound "corney" or whatever, but, i asked the Lord if i was doing the right thing, was i on the right track? and as i was still saying the words, and looking into the night, i saw a shooting star exactly where my eyes were fixed on the stars. Or maybe it was a meteor, but anyhow it was so close, and bright that i heard it crackle as it went by! maybe you will say it was a firecracker or coincidence, but it strengthened me non the less, and confirmed in me that He was with me. Which was really all i needed, to know that i wasn't alone and he listened to me, that i mattered! there is much more to my story, as with all of us, but i don't want to bore you. let me just say that i find no greater joy than conversing on the scriptures and even debate is good to me, because it keeps us sharp and gives us the views of others. my hope and joy lies in the Kingdom of Christ, and that one even as myself can be recieved of him! to be in his presence not only spiritually but physically is my longing and when the kingdom does come, i think i will lie at his feet for a thousand years if he will permit me. | ||||||
10 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | ominous | 155404 | ||
No,there is a difference. An outsider, according to my understanding, is one who possibly does not know the lord or is searching for truth. These I would think are to be treated as brothers until they prove otherwise. If they be not of us, the Lord will weed them out. One who willfully walks in evil, sets out to tempt others purposly, or attacks Christianity, comes in the name of satan as a wolf in sheeps clothing. A brother or sister however, is not necessarily a true brother or sister, just because they "walk through the doors" so to say. There is to be a period of time in which the spirit will reveal their true intent, if they be sincere or not. But there are also those who have put themselves on the outside, these are the same as one who willfully walks in evil. 2 Timothy 2:24-25, 3:5-7. Colossians 4:5-6 says, "Walk in wisdom toward them that are without." meaning we are to be circumspect and percieve through the spirit, the true intent of the individual that is not in Christ. So in this respect, i appologize for jumping "gung-ho" into the previous conversation without knowing fully what was going on! I guess one of the reasons Hebrews 4:12 compares God's word to a two-edged sword is because not only can you "cut" others with it, but you can also "cut" yourself while handling it! ominous | ||||||
11 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | ominous | 155339 | ||
i do not accept or believe in mormonizm, or what ever it's called. thanx for the web site. | ||||||
12 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | ominous | 155338 | ||
i have not purposely tried to violate any guide lines, and i do not think i have been an agressor toward anyone. that is however, a matter of opinion (mine). as far as rebuke of statements made by me out of accordance with as you say sound doctrine, the only thing you can be talking about is the past kabalah reference. now, as i said before, i asked you how should we respond to a question that is not scripture based with a scripture? i never recieved a response. i look to you for an answer since you are clearly the expert on the rules and regulations of this forum. as far as anything else i posted, to my knowledge, even though it may not be in accordance with the teachings of your particular denomination, coincides with the bible. and concerning filing a complaint goes, i'm not a child i can just as easily ignore someone rather than have their posting privileges revoked. i said agression because denomination was aggressively obvious when i stated that baptism was not necessary for salvation. according to 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, anyone can be saved throgh Christ. do you think then that a murderer never baptized is worse than a murderer baptized before the murder took place? believe me, i am not trying to start that discussion again! just trying to show you where i'm comming from. | ||||||
13 | Persicution | Luke 11:52 | ominous | 155331 | ||
absolutly not, but how do we know if one sincerly wants to know the truth, unless we "talk" to them and find out what they do or do not know? there are some here, who take pleasure in telling others to leave the forum, as their own posts prove. debate is healthy, it keeps you sharp. Titus 1:9 i think it is safe to say that most of us in here are either Christians, or looking to Christianity for answers. so why discourage someone at the first sign of non-conformity? we are all coming from different walks of life, and had to shed false indoctrination in some cases. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. there is however a difference between rebuking a brother, and convincing a gainsayer, or one looking for answers. there is a difference in misinterpretation and deliberate twisting, but is it being done deliberatly, or is that what he was taught? that is my point, i see the provoking nature of his comments, as i also see in others; to whom i do not respond. | ||||||
14 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | ominous | 155116 | ||
Hey Swerv, concerning the sabbath, according to ancient tradition, niether saturday or sunday is actually correct. Our calander is based off of the sun, and God originally used the moon as an indicator. As in Genisis 1:5,the day began at night fall, since darkness preceeded light. "The evening and the morning were the fist day". Originally we used the new moon to mark the first day of the month, which the night of the new moon was a sabbath, then we would count the days, the seventh being the sabbath, but with our modern calander, the day of the week on which the sabbath falls varies from month to month.Ezekiel 46:1,Amos 8:5,Ezra 3:5, Hosea 2:11, all prove that the new moon was a Holy Day. Technically Sunday is the first day of the week. But as Paul said in Colossians 2:16, no man can judge you wether you keep these days holy or not; Romans 14:5. The most important thing now is to get ourselves right with the Lord! Which brings us to the next subject, repentance;To make a change for the better as a result of remorse or contrition for one's sins. Jesus had a message; repent and sin no more! Luke 13:3, John 5:14, John 8:11. 1John 3:4 tells us that sin is transgression of the law! Mathew 5:17 tells us that the law is in effect, verse 19 says we should not teach that the law is null and void. Also in Isaiah 66:22-23, God says that we will keep the sabbath (law) in the Kingdom. Christ took away the penalty of the law, which is death; bringing grace. not the law itself. For he is the will of the father in the flesh, and as the scripture says; Can two walk together, except they be agreed? | ||||||
15 | I need to know the direct translation | Jer 2:22 | ominous | 154698 | ||
that's right! ceremonially washed. | ||||||
16 | Two questions on this verse | Heb 3:13 | ominous | 154044 | ||
i guess most believers doubt themselves, that is, doubt their own righteousness. | ||||||
17 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | ominous | 153787 | ||
thanx, you are right about that, the new and old testaments don't contradict each other, not only regarding clean and unclean animals, on anything!as god cannot contradict himself. some times there are misunderstandings because of translation problems. example; exodus 20:13, thou shalt not kill; then dueteronomy 19:21,life for life,eye for eye; the original word in hebrew translated as "kill" in english, is murder. as in premeditated. you don't just take everything at face value, i like that! if you really want the truth you sometimes have to dig, and most people don't want to do that! but in genesis 3:19 god said, in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread. | ||||||
18 | The Interpreation of #'s | Bible general Archive 2 | ominous | 153704 | ||
2 peter 2:2, hebrews 5:12-14,(meat and strong meat are in this case allegories for knowledge,useable according to age and,or development) as i said i do not mix doctrine. but i believe that if you have strong root in christ, then you can discerne between good and evil,and not fear error.it is written that we have an unction to know all things, and again that we have the mind of christ.if never exposed to evil, then how would you know good? never did i say that the spirit of god had to depend on any thing occult. those are your words. if you read the original question, it was not really scripture based. besides a reference to the seven days of creation; so how can i answer it with scripture? how would you have answered it? or would you have not responded at all? the interpretation of #'s | ||||||
19 | Noah took 7 clean but only 2 unclean ? | Gen 9:3 | ominous | 153703 | ||
matt 5:17-19 there is much to say concerning this but right now i must defend myself, as i'm being attacked, and my "christian-ness" questioned. but your right! talk more later. | ||||||
20 | The Interpreation of #'s | Bible general Archive 2 | ominous | 153702 | ||
okay guys, i am not recomending kabalah to anyone. he asked a question, concerning numerology, he stated that seven represented completion, there are no biblical teachings on numerology, the only place i ever came across numerical symbology defined was in kabalistic writings. i am not practicing it or condoning it i was merely trying to answer his question. of course over the years i have come in contact with it as well as many other things, as i'm sure many of you have. i know the teachings of the bible are supreme, and not to be mingled with other phylosophy. and by the way to whoever wrote that all scripture was to be taken literally, your wrong! do you really expect a seven headed dragon to come out of the ocean? you guys sure are judgmental. | ||||||
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