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1 | Man or man? | Mark | Rowdy | 141514 | ||
Good points, EdB. Very well said. | ||||||
2 | How does mercy triumph over judgment? | James 2:13 | Rowdy | 134001 | ||
Dear friend Kalos, Here's what I wrote: "Praise the Lord for both the OT and NT. They both do an excellent job of supporting each other for their respective purpose." Hopefully, when my statements are quoted in context, they should be pretty easy to understand. Here it's pretty obvious I'm saying the OT served its purpose which was to teach mankind (mainly through the Jews) the law of God and how important it was to obey God in order to please Him. Also it served to teach us about His Absolute Love and His Perfect Sense of Justice. The purpose of the NT was to teach us about the Perfect Sacrifice in the Life, Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and to describe the installation of His beloved Bride, His Body, the church of our Lord. The NT also provided some practical demonstrations of how the Apostles handled crises and the basic guidance for all christians to follow in this dispensation. So you see, the OT served its purpose and its Authority was nailed to the cross with Jesus. Upon His death on that cross, our Lord's Last Will and Testament was executed by His designated officials, the Apostles and proclaimed His Terms and Conditions in Acts 2. I hope this clears up your questions. God bless. Rowdy |
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3 | Baptism-What Does the Bible Teach? | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133996 | ||
I would refer you to my recent Post No 133984 and the one just under it to Tim Moran. I'm convinced that baptism is required of all who want to be assured of their salvation before Judgment Day. Also, I would refer you to the sum total picture from the 87 verses on the matter of baptism found throughout the NT. After reading all these posts and the 87 verses, I'd be interested in discussing with you your response. God bless. Rowdy |
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4 | Baptism or No? Our Forefathers said... | Eph 4:9 | Rowdy | 133992 | ||
I must admit, dear friend Tim, I read your posts and sometimes I can't tell whether you're on my side arguing in favor of my posts or on the other side arguing against. "Faith is a complete trust in God. It is a surrender to His will. It even includes obedience to His commands. But, faith is not 'mere mental assent'! "Would you care to show me anywhere in Scripture where faith is defined as 'mere mental assent'?" I'll mention here again there is, by the Forum's count exactly 87 verses from the NT to add to this discussion. (Just be sure to insert the word "bapti" in the Word Search to get them all.) Please don't misunderstand me, I'd be literally the last person in the world to deny the solid truth behind every one of the scriptures you cited above. But please take another look at the article with the quote from Martin Luther. Even he agreed to baptism being essential to one's salvation. "[I] affirm that Baptism is no human trifle, but that it was established by God Himself. Moreover, He earnestly and solemnly commanded that we must be baptized or we shall not be saved. No one is to think that it is an optional matter like putting on a red coat. It is of greatest importance that we hold Baptism in high esteem as something splendid and glorious. The reason why we are striving and battling so strenuously for this view of Baptism is that the world nowadays is full of sects that loudly proclaim that Baptism is merely an external form and that external forms are useless…. Although Baptism is indeed performed by human hands, yet it is truly God’s own action" (1978, pp. 98-99). Don't you see baptism is merely the real and genuine demonstration of real and genuine faith just like you've described above? It is the same principle Naaman discovered in being healed from leporsy. It's the same principle the Israelites discovered when they accepted the gift of the promised land. Although it was a gift of the Promised Land, they still had to obey God in conquering the Cannanites who were there first. God even told them to kill everyone, men, women and children. That too wasn't easy, I'm sure but God said it and Joshua obeyed. King David discovered this principle when he obeyed God, He knew with genuine, absolute confidence that God was with him. How else could he have conquered giant Goliath at least twice as tall as he and at twice the warrior as David? How? Because Goliath was dwarfed when placed beside David AND his God Almighty. When we're baptized and obey ALL of God's other commands then and only then can we approach God with absolute confidence, even to the moment of Judgment Day, as per 1 John 2. With reference to your question about "mere mental assent," that's the modern way to emphasize the point of complete obedience that our friend, Kyle Butt is trying to make. If we as humans hold anything back but absolute obedience to ALL of God's commands, we might as well as stay home. It has the same effect as "mere mental assent." Again, don't you see, King Saul discovered this very important principle when Samuel told him "It's better to obey than to offer sacrifice." When we do/say anything less, it's like we're telling God "OK God, I'll obey but I gotta do it my way, on my terms and conditions; here's my counter-offer." Ananais and Sapphira discovered this principle in Acts 5 and paid with their lives AND their souls. When we hold back from God and actually choose NOT to obey His commands, how can we truly call Him Father and then dare to think we're good to go to Heaven where only the faithful and the obedient with the blood of His dear Son covers their sin? No, my friend, I would beseech you. Study ALL of this article, the truths contained therein but most especially keep studying and praying on this matter. I'll keep on praying for you and God bless. Rowdy |
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5 | How does mercy triumph over judgment? | James 2:13 | Rowdy | 133964 | ||
My main point was the antitype of Moses in "foreshadowing" the coming of Christ as the Perfect Advocate of the whole world for all time, past, future and present. Praise the Lord for both the OT and NT. They both do an excellent job of supporting each other for their respective purpose. Like I mentioned, I enjoyed reading your post. Good to see your posts once again on the Forum. God bless. Rowdy |
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6 | How does mercy triumph over judgment? | James 2:13 | Rowdy | 133943 | ||
I can only add this scripture as a demonstration of the truth from Colin's statement. Good post by the way. Ex 32:7 Then the LORD spoke to Moses, "Go down at once, for your people, whom you brought up from the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves. 8 "They have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them. They have made for themselves a molten calf, and have worshiped it and have sacrificed to it and said, 'This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!'" 9 The LORD said to Moses, "I have seen this people, and behold, they are an obstinate people. 10 "Now then let Me alone, that My anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them; and I will make of you a great nation." 11 Then Moses entreated the LORD his God, and said, "O LORD, why does Your anger burn against Your people whom You have brought out from the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? 12 "Why should the Egyptians speak, saying, 'With evil intent He brought them out to kill them in the mountains and to destroy them from the face of the earth'? Turn from Your burning anger and change Your mind about doing harm to Your people. 13 "Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants to whom You swore by Yourself, and said to them, 'I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens, and all this land of which I have spoken I will give to your descendants, and they shall inherit it forever.'" 14 So the LORD changed His mind about the harm which He said He would do to His people. 15 Then Moses turned and went down from the mountain with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets which were written on both sides; they were written on one side and the other. Here we see both God's absolution devotion to perfect Justice AND His infinite Mercy. Of course, we can also see and understand why Moses issues such a harsh judgment on these Israelites in the next few verses. Thanks be to God, we too have the Perfect Advocate/Intermediary between us and God. Christ and His Perfect Sacrifice is the ONLY thing standing between us and certain, eternal destruction. I hope this helps and God bless. Rowdy |
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7 | If you never admit when you are wrong... | Titus 3:9 | Rowdy | 133904 | ||
A similar statement in support, you've probably heard it. "Never argue with a fool as pretty soon, it becomes difficult to distinguish between the two." Appreciate your words and God bless. Rowdy |
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8 | Baptism-What Does the Bible Teach? | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133837 | ||
"I would like to better understand your position. Are you saying that water baptism is a requirement of salvation, and that a person will be eternally damned if they are not water baptized?" In response to your question above, I can only quote just one of the scriptures that applies. Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. As I understand the scriptures here, the Lord is very clear. The word "and" is a conjuction which marries the two verbs "believe" and "be baptized." I realize not everyone endorses this interpretation but there are many millions throughout the world that do. I futher understand it's not a popular concept with the Forum or the Lockman Foundation as evidenced by the famous "Note to Viewers" hereunder. I can only quote from the scriptures and comply with their simple message. I would also re-introduce to you the verses below in what I call the Lord's principle of "better safe than sorry." Matt 5:29 "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 "If your right hand makes you stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to go into hell. I hope this helps in clarifying the issue. God bless. Rowdy |
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9 | How does God determine the difference? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133757 | ||
Just one more troublesome post from your favorite pest. I thought I'd throw this into the discussion and would be interested in your response. Copied for reference Matt 25:31 "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 "All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. 34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink? 38 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 'When did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 "The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' 41 "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' 44 "Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' 45 "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." Since we're all going to be able to go to Heaven based only on our belief as you've stated, how does this square with Jesus' teaching above? I await your response. Thanks for your patience and God bless. Rowdy |
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10 | Are we too dull to understand the Bible? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133681 | ||
I keep responding to your posts but you don't seem willing to respond completely to mine. Why do not respond to all the points in my posts since they're also supported with scripture? Still looking...God bless. Rowdy |
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11 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133680 | ||
If they're done in His name with a humble attitude, I'd think these kind of acts would be pleasing to Him. Don't you think so? But He is the ultimate Judge, our opinions don't really count for much in the final analysis, on Judgment Day. Tell me what you think. God bless. Rowdy |
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12 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133664 | ||
Yes, I agree with this and all the other verses but getting to the rub, "where the rubber meets the road," how will this be done? In other words, in strict compliance with this verse and all the others, the devil himself is going to Heaven. How will God distinguish and keep him along with all his followers out of Heaven? Please advise and God bless. Rowdy |
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13 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133652 | ||
In response, I can only quote the following verses as they sound pretty clear to me. Acts 2:38 Peter said to them, "Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree but I'm willing to keep this as long as you wish. I'm just a vessel, a common pot in the hands of our Lord. Looking forward to your response and still praying for you. God bless. Rowdy |
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14 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133651 | ||
His offer of Isaac as a sacrifice was merely one of the most supreme examples of his devotion and faith. His first such example or act of obedience was his getting out of his home country, leaving all his kinfolk behind him, that is with the exception of Lot, his nephew. I think I can confiently say that every child of God in all dispensations (Patriarchial, Jewish and Christian) all showed their faith with their own acts of obedience as you and I must do. Maybe you can find an exception but I should think that will be difficult to do. God bless you, dear friend. Rowdy |
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15 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133639 | ||
I think I can agree with some of what you're saying. Please read on. "So, we mustn't think that we need our filthy rags, but we do in fact need them? What does God need our filthy rags for? :-)" In this situation, God DOESN'T need them. He has no needs whatsoever for He's God BUT we NEED to do them for our benefit. You might say it's beneficial to us in the same manner as our prayers. Here again, God doesn't need our prayers as He knows our needs AND our wants before we do. BUT we're commanded to "pray without ceasing." In both cases our prayers and our works of faith help us keep our focus on God just like Peter discovered while walking on water. "Eph. 2:8-9 doesn't say that we are saved by works done in the proper attitude." James 2 on the other hand does make it clear that "faith without works is dead" and thus worthless to both us and to God. "Nor does James 2 talk about works done with a proper attidute. The individuals in James 2 were claiming to have faith and did not need to demonstrate any works. James was showing them that real faith 'works', thus they did not have real faith. "Thus, 'works' are the result and evidence of faith, not the basis of salvation." This is the only item with which I can agree in part. Yes indeed our works should be thought of by us as being proof of our faith. But notice the reverse is also true. If we have no works to look back on how can we say we have true and genuine faith for the devil himself believes in God and yet continues to disobey? If we can't lay claim to ANY acts of obedience, how can we claim to love God or our fellow man? So, yes, I agree with you, works is most certainly NOT the basis of salvation as the ONLY foundation for salvation MUST be Jesus Christ, He alone and the Grace of God, His Father and ours. I guess you might compare this Grace and our works as a marriage. One can't be married to another human being WITHOUT accepting the idea that there may come some days of trial and difficulties but the couple stays married regardless for that's God's Will. In the same way, when we become children of God, that automatically means we agree to bear the costs as Christ suggests in his parable AND we MUST bear our own cross of submission to His Will as he commanded. We can't have one (Grace) on the one hand and NOT have the other (acts of obedience). God DEMANDS real and genuine faith and I'm afraid He's going to be looking for our proofs of that faith on Judgment Day. How do you anticipate that God is going to distinguish between christians and other sinners on the Day? I hope this helps to clarify. God bless. Rowdy |
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16 | What is a repentance from dead works? | Heb 6:1 | Rowdy | 133637 | ||
Copied for reference: Matt 25:40 "The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' I'm hoping that I'm assuming correctly here (maybe she'll forgive me if I err): Mommapbs and I were ultimately referring to the attitude, at least I know I was. I would further clarify with one of Jesus parables below. Luke 18:9 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: 10 "Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 "The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 'I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.' 13 "But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!' 14 "I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted." We can do all the good we could possibly cram into our lives but if we do it with anything else but with the most humble attitude, it won't count for anything. When we actually do/say everything in the name of the Lord as commanded, then we can be assured we on the right path (straight and narrow) headed in the right direction. Paul also talks about this in 1 Cor 13. I hope this makes it a little more clear. God bless. Rowdy |
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17 | Baptism-What Does the Bible Teach? | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133635 | ||
I'm very curious as to how you came to such a conclusion about Paul's position on baptism in light of the scriptures below. Rom 6:3 Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. 1 Cor 1:13 Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so that no one would say you were baptized in my name. 16 Now I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not in cleverness of speech, so that the cross of Christ would not be made void. 1 Cor 10:2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. 1 Cor 15:29 Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them? Gal 3:27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, Col 2:12 having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. I understand there are some controversies about this topic of baptism but it seems to me that Paul's being a strong advocate of baptism is NOT one of them. If by chance you're referring to Paul's position about the focus of his ministery as mentioned in 1 Cor 1:17, I think there's a simple explanation. Human beings have a tendancy to want to be baptized by someone famous. My own father was baptized by a christian preacher who had a show on television many years ago and is now dead. But people all over the world brag about being taught and/or baptized by a famous christian who perhaps is on television or has written a book of some sort. In the first century, obviously Paul was getting some of this same kind of notariety along with Apollos and Peter. Here Paul is trying to de-emphasize himself and promote Christ and His sacrifice on the cross instead. IMO, Paul recognized he had a big job to do, preach the Gospel throughout the whole world and a short time to do it in. So naturally he prioritized his life into preaching the Gospel and let others take care of details like baptizing those that wanted to become christians. I hope this helps clarify the issue. God bless. Rowdy |
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18 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133611 | ||
You keep on leaving out parts of the picture. With Abraham, remember He proved his faith to God when He told him offer his son as a sacrifice. Paul proved his devotion and commitment many times over, not the least of which included being baptized as cited Acts 9:18. James 2 deals with the works very thoroughly. Works are most certainly not to be considered part of the process but to be proofs of salvation after the fact. So baptism is not a work on our part; it's the Lord's working in us. Now that I've answered/responded to your points, how about taking a chop at answering/responding to my main point about believing or proving one's faith without any kind of proofs at all. Show a definite contrast between your belief and that of the devil's belief in God. I pray that God blesses you in your response. Rowdy |
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19 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133610 | ||
You keep on leaving out parts of the picture. With Abraham, remember He proved his faith to God when He told him offer his son as a sacrifice. Paul proved his devotion and commitment many times over, not the least of which included being baptized as cited Acts 9:18. James 2 deals with the works very thoroughly. Works are most certainly not to be considered part of the process but to be proofs of salvation after the fact. So baptism is not a work on our part; it's the Lord's working in us. Now that I've answered/responded to your points, how about taking a chop at answering/responding to my main point about believing or proving one's faith without any kind of proofs at all. Show a definite contrast between your belief and that of the devil's belief in God. I pray that God blesses you in your response. Rowdy |
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20 | Question for Rowdy.... | Acts 2:38 | Rowdy | 133597 | ||
Please believe me, dear friend Tim. I'm quite serious. The reason for my statement about the Bible not being quite clear is represented by the sum total of ALL of God's Word on this rather wide topic of what it takes to comply with God's commands and receive the Gift of Salvation on Judgment Day. That my friend is not quite so clear when our Lord does clearly say that His Words will Judge us on that Judgment Day. So the correct conclusion is try to make sense of it all and follow God's commands as best as we possibly can. Would you not agree this is our charge from God Almighty? This seems pretty clear to me. Looking forward to your response. God bless. Rowdy |
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