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1 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18612 | ||
:) I knew what you were thinking, but I had to say that. I said "Christmas" was on Dec. 25th, and it is. Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. I did not say it WAS His birthday. Just a messin with ya. :) Kelkat PS I agree that His birthday was probably not in December. |
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2 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18496 | ||
Yes, those are the three I was referring to. But if we are only talking about their belief in the power of words, will that belief keep anyone out of heaven? What I have learned over the last (mainly) two years is that my opinions, my thoughts, my beliefs are not going to change anyone else's. Someone gave me the best advice I have ever received "if it's not one of the essential elements of salvation, then let God take care of it." I don't disagree that you, and many others, feel that "word of faith" teachers and believers have it wrong. I also don't disagree that many of them believe that there is power in words. I know, or figure, that you can prove your point scripturally. I know that they prove their point scripturally. When I asked you about what you didn't agree with, I meant in the essential issues. Otherwise, I know that you are firmly grounded in your ideas, and I can't say anything to prove you wrong, or to make you see things differently. So there is not reason to go on. If you do have concerns about the essentials, these I want to know. I have never heard any of them teach anything that goes against the "basics" but I also have not heard it all. That's what I am interested in talking about. We have different understandings of different scriptures, but I will concede that I am looking through a dark glass right now. I know that I don't have it all right. Kelkat |
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3 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18492 | ||
Christmas is on December 25th. Kelkat |
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4 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18272 | ||
In a "nutshell" :) I don't defend anyone's position, especially when I don't have the details surrounding that position. We could agrue all day over the details of healing, prosperity, and blessings. Why can't we just agree to disagree here? You have to admit, it's not going to keep either of us out of heaven, no matter who turns out to be right. :) Kelkat |
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5 | Who determines what is "minor"? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18229 | ||
Amen to that. Kelkat |
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6 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18228 | ||
Yes, we agree. But we still things a bit different. I don't think God desires ME to be wealthy. I do think He is wealthy, and desires to bless me so that I can bless others. Here's my best example: I know a couple who God had burden their hearts to adopt sibling groups. The do not have "grand" careers, and the woman even stays home. God provides for them daily, and is providing the home and transportation they will need to get that many children around. But they do not view the house or cars or money as theirs. They consider themselves stewards, and try to prayerfully do with everything. That is what I think the scripture is talking about when it talks about prosperity. Being able to meet all needs, whatever those needs are, of those that God directs us to. It has to be a God thing. If "I" gets into, then prIde can't be far behind, and we all know where pride leads. :) Kelkat |
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7 | Who determines what is "minor"? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18076 | ||
so if its minor, why let it divide? Kelkat |
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8 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18075 | ||
Believe me, I know that any one can be wrong...especially those in authority. I don't think it is wrong for you to question anyone, if God leads you to it. The bible speaks often of us watching our words. I try not to say anything. Personally, I find that anytime "I" gets involved, I get in trouble. :) Kelkat |
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9 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18074 | ||
Psalm 35:27 3John2 Deuteronomy 28:12 Deuteronomy 8:18 Philippians 4:19 Psalm 84:11-12 Malachi 3:10 2 Corinthians 9:8 |
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10 | Who determines what is "minor"? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18000 | ||
Agreed. Now, what makes believing that God wants me to be healthy and prosperous a "false" doctrine, and not minor? Kelkat |
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11 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17998 | ||
But the problem with that theory is that they are my teachers. I didn't believe and then start listening. I was listening when I began believing. What I have learned has been lead through them. I respect your right not to listen to them. But, I will not try to find something wrong with others. I have seen that do just as much damage. And the enemy is doing enough damage without us tearing each other up. Kelkat |
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12 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17997 | ||
Okay, yes I believe God has to do everything that He said He would do. Not because I believe, but because He is who He is. He can not lie. So if He said it would, it will be. Why is that wrong? As for the whole CRI thing. I went surfing to find out who or what they were. That is when I found the statement from the founder's wife who said her husband had not hand picked anyone. It is also when I found the web site founded by his children. Kelkat |
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13 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17978 | ||
That's what I mean, they have taken the teachings out of context. I have heard the same teachings, but I understand that it comes down to a heart issue. God does things in my life because He loves me, not because I bribe Him. I can understand why Creflo Dollar and Kenneth Copeland can upset some people. I can see how some people want the easy way out ( if that makes sense) and are upset when it doesn't go their way. But everything I have learned so far is that there is no easy way. They have taught me to search the scripture for God's desire for my life. It's not about God doing FOR me, it's about God doing through me. I can't be the focus, or God is out of the picture. It's easier to say "I am doing this because of what you did" than it is to take responsibility for your own actions. That's all I'm saying. It's a context thing. If that makes sense. Kelkat |
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14 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17976 | ||
Sorry, didn't mean to seem like I was jumping. I don't think that they "teach" that God is puny or was tricked. Just the opposite, I think they teach that He is all powerful, and all knowing. Just the way I see it. :) right back at ya. Kelkat |
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15 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17970 | ||
Look, I don't know what you are so upset about. You say you disagree with me, but on what? You want me to site specifics, but on what? Exactly what is it you don't agree with? | ||||||
16 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17954 | ||
It might intrest you to know that the founder of CRI never intended for it to be used as it is being used today. The children of the founder have broken off from CRI and started another research organization. Kelkat |
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17 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17934 | ||
I challange you to find any preacher today who speaks the absolute 100 percent truth every time they speak. There has only been one who understood the Word that clearly. Kelkat |
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18 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17933 | ||
Norrie, it will hopefully relax to know that I don't take any man's word on any God issue. I spend time with God everyday and I use church, books, tapes, and even television to enhance my learning. I can see how there are people who take things out of context. For instance, the whole prosperity thing...I have learned that if it's about me, then its not about God. If I give expecting to receive, then I give for the wrong reasons. God is out of it. I don't give because God has give me anything back. I give because God has already given me everything. It has to be about God. I know it is easy to take something someone writes or says and hang on to that. But we all have to go to source. If you don't have a personal relationship with God, then any teaching can be taken out of context. Believe me when I say that I am open minded. I have learned to "test" everything I hear, and I know to go into any teaching prayerfully. I don't know why God led me to this sight, but I know He will make it known sooner or later. With love, Kelkat |
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19 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17932 | ||
Just for the record, people walk away from God for all sorts of reasons. You can't blame any one individual, any one thought, or any one teaching. The walk away is a personal choice, because is a personal God. I can't teach anyone how to have a relationship with God...that is God's job. All I can do is live each day for God. Kelkat |
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20 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17931 | ||
You have blessed me like you will never know. It's always refreshing to see someone focused on the positive...and on God. Thanks! Kelkat |
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