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1 | Bad Arguments Against Calvinism | John 15:16 | Hecameforu | 34951 | ||
Hi Kalos, I don't know very much about Calvanism or Arminianism but I completely agree with your analogy below. Parenthesis are mine. "You're(God is) in control the entire time--You're(God is) sovereign. You're (God is) able to be in control because you (God) know every move he's (I'm)going to freely make. Therefore, your(God's) plan can be perfectly executed, even though he's (I'm)making his free choices." God is in complete control(he directs our paths, as long as we acknowledge him. Prov. 3:6) and knows all that will happen in the future but doesn't make our decisions for us. Barry |
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2 | Why did Peter deny Jesus? | Matt 26:34 | Hecameforu | 34907 | ||
Hi Steve, Thanks for your repsonse. Very good points you make. A good passage to show that we can't do anything without Jesus. John 15:5 Barry |
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3 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34607 | ||
Hi Curt, How can one be repelled by something without first having some specific knowledge of it first? Is it not true that the word will be known to all nations? It's obvious that everyone that hears the words of our Lord do not get saved. To me, a person doesn't accidently listen to the word of God. Everyone will hear the words of Salvation becuase they are "drawn" to hear it. What about the rich man who came and sought out(Mark says "there came one running") Jesus to learn about eternal llife. This man was seeking eternal life, heard the words of Jesus and rejected him. Did he see out Jesus on his own? Did God draw him? John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him...." In either case he decided to reject the words of our Lord. Whether or not he became saved later I do not know. With God's Love Barry |
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4 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34603 | ||
Hi believer, I agree with most of what you're saying here. "I believe that when our precious Lamb was on the cross, that Satan, in his own self-deception, thought he had won" Isn't the biggest part of the "plan of salvation", our Lord rising from the Grave? Because it has been said, if Jesus didn't rise, then our faith is in vain. 1Cor 15: 14,17 I also believe Satan thoght he "had" Jesus but only because of certain things he did not know,(that Jesus would rise from the grave) not from some "self deception". I simply cannot bring myself to believe that Satan knew, before he was cast out of Heaven what was going to happen, God only knows how many millenia later, unless God himself told him and I just don't see that in these passages. The word of God is alive so maybe one day while reading these passages, the Lord will show me this is how it is but at this time I don't see it. But it really doesn't matter because he has been defeated and will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire and we will live with the Lord forever. Hallelujah!!! Barry |
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5 | Anyone know this passage? | John 15:20 | Hecameforu | 34524 | ||
Hi Searcher, Seeing as how you responded to my original question, I thought this might interest you. Isaiah 43:26 says " "Put Me in remembrance, let us argue our case together; State your cause, that you may be proved right." Our strongest plea is to remind God of His own promises. So Jacob did at Mahanaim and Peniel ( Gen 32:9, 12 ). JFB Put him in remembrance of the promises he has made to us, and the satisfaction his Son has made for us. Plead these with him in wrestling for pardon, and declare these things, in order that one may be justified freely by his grace. This is the only way, and it is a sure way, to peace. MH Love in Christ Barry |
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6 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34520 | ||
If you will allow me to interject, Reformed - Calvanist, Calvanism, protestanst protestanism, Arminian, Arminianism "Arminian quoted ", "Arminian fashion", "Arminian scholar ","Reformed theologian", "Reformed one", "Armenian view" "Westminster Shorter Catechism's rendering" Whew, that's almmost making me dizzy reading all that. The only ism in the KJV is Baptism. Only Judaism and Baptism are in NASB. There is niether "theologian" nor "theory" in the Word of God. The Bible is not a "theory" and Christianity is not an "ism". How about, " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" :) yes it is God that draws the person, but does this mean that the one that is being drawn has to accept the gift of Salvation? I don't think so. It is also clear that Salvation is by grace and not by works but according to Rev 3:20.... "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me".... we have to open the door. This opening of the door is not a work but an action that we must do. This verse cannot be for believers because Jesus is already in us and supping with us and we with him. Love in Christ Barry |
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7 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34476 | ||
Hi Believer, The passages you mention only state why Satan was cast out of Heaven and where he is going but they have nothing to do, in my view, with Satan knowing or not knowing God's plan of Salvation. Our Lord's Blessings Barry |
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8 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34472 | ||
Hello Makarios I believe I misspelt your name on a previous post. Sorry for that. My point on the "quiet" ascension is that only "believers" saw Jesus taken up in the cloud. We're just going to have to view this differently is all. Anyway, Matthew 24:30 states that "and then the sign of the Son of Man" and then "all the tribes mourn" and then "they will see the son of man coming". What exactly is the "sign" of the son of man? Barry |
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9 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34458 | ||
CDBJ, Part 2 As per your statement concerning Rev 7:9. “This is the whole body of Christ right after the rapture and if you assume that it is only a few that were saved during the tribulation, where is the church? This a very great gathering since (all) the angels were there, the elders were there, and the four beast were there but according to what you are trying to say, supposing that that church was rapture earlier, they weren't invited, I DON'T THINK SO! “ You must relax my brother. You seem uptight when your view differs with another’s view. I never said or intimated that there was only going to be a few saved during the tribulation period, just that the Church would not be on the earth during it. You mention the words “after this”. After this does not mean after the rapture. You have to go back to verse 3, which mentions the sealing of the servants of God on their foreheads, which are the 144,000 Jewish witnesses and then it’s mentioned how many from each tribe were sealed. Again you must see the difference between the rapture (being caught up together in the clouds) and the coming in Power and Great glory (the gathering of everyone). If you notice that in this chapter it tells of the 144,000 witnesses and then all nations, people…etc,etc. This is clearly a distinction between Jews and Gentiles while in the Church, there is neither Jew (Gal 3:28) nor Gentile. Another point that makes one think that the Church is not in this crowd is that their identities are spelled out in verses 13-14 in which John did not know who these people were. They are clearly stated as coming out of the great tribulation, all of them. Here again, I maintain that the dead in Christ have been raised and the Church has already been raptured and is here signified by the four and twenty elders, which are “seated”. Twelve of which are the Apostles representing the Church. If you read this passage carefully, they are “standing” before the throne of God and serve him night and day.. This appears, at least to me, to be an earthly scene, not a heavenly one. Plus, there isn’t any night in Heaven. Rev 21:25, 22:5 In the words of one of the brothers on this forum “I have found that a person can learn more if he doesn't push the envelope to the point where he is no longer flexible”. Love in Christ, Barry |
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10 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34457 | ||
Nice to see you CDBJ, It's been too long since I've read your pleasant words. :) First of all my brother, "a thief in the night" are the words of our Lord, not mine. I used "quiet", you used "sneak". Now isn't that what a thief in the night does, he sneaks in, takes what he wants and sneaks out? If this is not what a thief does then I'm mistaken and stand corrected. If a thief comes into your home at night and steals your wife’s diamonds, you wouldn't know it until your wife went to put her diamonds on. Well that’s what’s going to happen during the rapture. People will not know until it's too late. A thief does not come in power and great glory. Our Lord says “then they will see the son of man coming on the clouds with power and great glory”…….. “coming”, which means being seen from a distance as he comes to earth on the clouds with power and great glory. You don’t see a thief wen he comes in the night. A thief does not broadcast his actions. Also notice the word “they”. Jesus says “they will see”, not you will see, or you will all see, because the Church will no longer be there. I did not say that Jesus wasn't coming in Power and Great Glory. Indeed he is, but I maintain after the tribulation which is after the “rapture” when the Church is caught up in the clouds. There’s also a big difference between the words “caught”, “taken” and the word “gather”. Caught and taken are similar though. Caught: I Thess. 4:17 harpazô; from a prim. root harp-; to seize, catch up, snatch away:--carry off, snatch, snatched...away, snatches, snatches away, snatching, take...away...by force, take...by force. Taken: Matthew 24: 40-41 and many others paralambanô; to receive from:--receive, received, take, taken, takes, takes along, taking, took, took...along, took...aside, took along. Gather: Matthew 24:31, Ephesians 1:10 among others episunagô; to gather together:--gather...together, gather together, gathered, gathered together, gathers These are two separate moments. The Church is caught up or taken during the rapture and the elect and all in heaven are gathered together during our Lord’s glorious coming in Power and Great Glory. I’m sorry if you can’t see the difference between the two. I’m sorry if you can’t see what I’m trying to relate. I did not say that there were only a few that were saved during the tribulation. I did not say that the church was “not invited”, as you put it. The Church, when raptured is to be forever with the Lord as it says in 1 Thes. 4:17 It is not my contention to sway you or to argue with you but to present my view to the best of my ability. I was not anticipating a discussion of the Book of Revelation, just merely making note of the distinction between the Rapture and our Lord’s coming in Power and Great Glory. I hadn’t brought up this passage before but seeing as how you did, let’s take a quick look at it Rev 7:9 is, as you put it; "the whole body of Christ right after the rapture"? Well Jesus did say that no one knows the day, or the hour except the father, but you seem to have it pinpointed down to right after the sixth seal. That’s some divine revelation you’ve been given there brother :-) Matthew 24:14 “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” This is where Rev 7:9 comes in. Well I certainly don’t profess to understand all the Bible and I’m always open to different views. Part 2 is next but not as long |
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11 | How do u see drugs? | 2 Pet 2:21 | Hecameforu | 34431 | ||
Brother Tim, I am very sorry about what has happened to your daughter. I will certainly pray(as I'm sure will all others) that the enemies grip on her be broken and that the Lord deliver her from this destructive life she's leading all in the name of Jesus and to the Glory of God. Love in Christ Barry |
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12 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34248 | ||
Brother Markarios, You have explained your view just fine. First I must apologize if I didn't represent my view well. You said "I'm not quite sure of how "those who will be left behind" are those who will be raptured". What I meant by "left behind" is as it states in 1 Thes 4:16-17"and the dead in christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds”. Basically, the Church. Again I didn't explain myself well with Acts 1:11. You're absolutely right, it's not how many people were there to see him ascend, it's the fact that he was taken up in a cloud, very quietly, with only believers seeing him and this is how I believe the Rapture will be, as he states in Matthew 24:37,39. My main point here sir is this: Matthew 24:30 states of Jesus coming in Power and Great Glory. He says that all the tribes on the earth mourn and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven. Now, in verse 31 he sends his angels to gather the elect from the four winds, from one end of Heaven to another. This is way different than the son of man coming like a thief in the night, in the twinkling of an eye. Do you see the difference between the coming of our Lord in Verse 30 and the way the lord describes it in verses 37,39. This is not a discrepancy, but the “Rapture” and then the coming in Power and Great Glory. You said: “since 1 Thess. 4:17 is speaking of how we are 'caught up', and 'caught up' and 'taken' (in Matthew 24) are very close in meaning. I believe that the church will be 'caught up' and 'taken' away, leaving those who will suffer God's wrath to be left behind.” Exactly Marcarios, the church will be caught up leaving those behind to suffer the wrath in the tribulation. Then after the tribulation is the coming in Power and Great Glory, the gathering of the elect and those all across heaven, chaining and throwing Satan into the bottomless pit, reigning with Jesus for a thousand years…. etc, etc. Overcomers of what?? We have to overcome every day, as you well know. There are also Christians in the world these days that are killed for their beliefs and I'm sure it's going to get worse. Sorry but my question "Who is on the earth for Satan to deceive” was somewhat rhetorical but thank you for you answer. A few other points if I may: Rev 4:1-2 is after the church age and before the tribulation. The location of this event is right for the Rapture, a representation of the Church in Heaven. Chapters 2 and 3 deal with the seven successive periods of church history. Chapters 4 and 5 present a vision in heaven and chapter 6 introduces the Tribulation Period. Another point I would like to make is the fact that the “Church’ is referred to 16 times in the first 3 chapters of Revelation whereas chapters 6 through 18, which cover the tribulation, do not mention the Church once. The natural conclusion drawn from this is that the Church will be absent from the events of the Tribulation. The rapture of the Church is not explicitly taught in Revelation 4 but definitely appears here chronologically at the end of the Church age and before the Tribulation. I’m sure we agree that Revelation is in chronological order. Thanks for the discussion. I await your thoughts if you are so inlcined Have a great night Barry |
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13 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34193 | ||
Hello Markarios, Very interesting excerpts taken from that book. Jesus is talking about 2 separate comings in Matthew 24. One that comes in Power and Great Glory is not one that comes as a thief. Jesus is going to come as a thief in the night. Now when a thief comes in the night; he comes, he takes what he wants and he's gone, and nobody knows it. This is how the rapture will be. Jesus will raise the dead and we that are left behind will be caught up with him in the clouds. 1Thes. 4:17 "Caught up" is a Greek translation of the Greek word, which literally means to seize as a robber seizes a prize. The Latin word, from which we get he word "rapture", is raptus, meaning to seize by force. Thus we have as the meaning of rapture that one day, Christ is coming to rob the world of his jewels (or his redeemed ones) to take them into heaven with them. Another interesting thing Jesus said was that it will be as in the days of Noah. Matthew 24: 37) But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Now in those days they were partying, without a care in the world. This is not going to be the case during the tribulation my friend. Rev. Chapter 8 7) Hail and fire……1/3 part of the trees and all the grass is burnt up. 8-9) 1/3 part of the creatures in the sea die, and 1/3 part of the ships are destroyed. 10-11) Many men die because the waters are made bitter because of a star slamming into the rivers 12) 1/3 part of the sun and moon and stars were darkened 13) and I quote “ Woe, Woe, Woe, to the inhabiters of the earth And on and on it goes….. Rev Chapter 16:9 The pouring out of the vials. “And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.” This sure doesn’t sound like giving to marriage and drinking. Acts 1:11 …"Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven." The whole world did not see Jesus taken up into a cloud, as we will be when he comes back for us. The whole world will see Jesus coming back in Power and Great Glory. Rev 3:10 clearly states that the Lord will spare his church from the hour of temptation to test those who dwell on the earth. Those who dwell on the earth, or earth dwellers are those who have no interest in Heaven. The church is not of this world. 1 Thes 1:10 “and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come”. We are already delivered from hell and death and this is not what it says. “Rescues” is something that hasn’t happened yet but will. 2 Peter 5:9 “then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the Day of Judgment”, You wrote, “"Peter simply repeats what he had been taught by his Lord- the truth that when Christ returns, He will come to simultaneously rescue His saints and destroy the wicked." Let’s not forget the 1000-year reign of our Lord while Satan is in the bottomless pit. If the wicked is simultaneously destroyed then who is on the earth to Judge and reign over during the 1000-year reign? Who is on the earth for Satan to deceive for a season when he is loosed from the bottomless pit? This my friend, is my humble view Love in Christ Barry |
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14 | Does that site address Rev. 6:16-17? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34079 | ||
Brother CDBJ, I have a question Not just for you, but for all. Can Jesus come back for us tomorrow? Barry I don't see how anyone cannot say "yes". |
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15 | Does that site address Rev. 6:16-17? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34013 | ||
CDBJ, I am loose thank you very much and I'm glad you're in a great mood. I do not think that you stepped on my toes but thanks for being sorry. Have a great night. Jesus is Lord! Barry |
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16 | Does that site address Rev. 6:16-17? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33979 | ||
This is your opinion sir and you are certainly entitled to it and maybe instead of knocking others, why not share your view from all those stacks of books you've read. This is what this forum is all abou is it not? A study of the word, to share your view, possibly stimulate the thoughts of others. I am always open to other's insights and I will check out that book and get back to you with my views on it's content but I might have to go into detail. Ecclesiastes 12:12 But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. Romans 14 1)Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2)For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3)Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4)Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5)One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6)He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Love in Christ Barry |
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17 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33781 | ||
I have read the whole chapter. Thank you for your kind responses |
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18 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33764 | ||
1 cor 14:27-28 "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28) "But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God" Paul says in verse 18 "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all": Now in Verse 19 Paul says.... "yet in the church" Notice the "yet" in KJV or the "however" in NASB, or the "but" in the NIV, or "nevertheless" in Amplified version. Paul was not talking about speaking in tongues in the church in verse 18. 1 Corin. 37)If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38)But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39)Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40)Let all things be done decently and in order. God Bless Barry |
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19 | Thoughts on Romans 9 | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33720 | ||
Hello Curt, "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out". I think maybe this is divine Sovereignty and human responsibility. The Father gives men and women to the Son and Jesus will not cast those out who come to him but they must believe in him. I don't believe that everyone that is drawn to Jesus, accepts Jesus as their Savior. Romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" Did not God Foreknow everyone? Of course he did, so then everyone is also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son. It is the Holy Spirit that tugs at man's heart. Jesus said: "behold, I stand at the door and knock" it is then up to each individual to "hear" that knock and "open" the door. This cannot be for the believer because Jesus is already in the believer, supping with him. I think the thing is, it's not how a person gets to the point of Salvation but if indeed they are saved, if indeed one did accept Jesus into their heart. God bless! Barry |
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20 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33686 | ||
Hi Clay, neither am I a scholar by any stretch of the imagination. I have put out these questions to get input. if you read my most recent post, I make mention to verse 22. Barry |
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