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1 | WOW!!thankyou, thankyou, thankyou!!!!!!! | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 32411 | ||
Amen to that Hank. Exactly what I was thinking about it not being sinful to worship God on ANY day. Barry |
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2 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33255 | ||
I respectfully disagree Curt, Yes Satan was "kind of" quoting scripture. He left out "to keep you in all your ways" Psalm 91:11-12. and Satan was saying 'if' you are the son of God. The question was did Satan know God's plan for Salvation and the answer is no, he did not. Sure he knew something was up but the Devil can "quote" scripture all he wants but he does not know their meaning, and he does not know the mysteries of the word, especially God's plan of redemption through Jesus Christ. Jesus' resurrection and his ascending into heaven. He hadn't a clue. 1 Corinthians 2:7 "But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory". Colossians 1:26 "Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints". Romans 16:25 "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began". 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." Glory to God Barry |
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3 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33344 | ||
"That's why he's still trying to kill the message of salvation through ignorance (darkness)". He(Satan) is, stll trying to kill the message because NOW he knows and he wants to keep as many people out of Heaven and take them with him to the Lake of fire as he possibly can. As Norrie stated...... I will ask you .... why have Jesus crucified(of all deaths)if he knew what was going to happen? Why not just have him stoned to death? |
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4 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33346 | ||
Well Curt, it seems you have a fan. Thank you too for your views. It is an interssting question Curt, however, I will not address your rhetoric except to say that of course Satan does NOW know the plan of Salvation and also of his own demise. Ephesians 3:9 says that the mystery was "hid in God". Let me present to you with a few questions. Can Satan see inside God? If Satan knew of all this, why provoke God if he knew he was doomed to the Lake of fire? If he didn't realize this before he got kicked out of Heaven, then when did he figure it out? Was it when God told him that the woman's seed would bruise his head? Why have Jesus crucified if Satan knew that Jesus would rise from the grave triumphantly and ascend into Heaven? You think Satan understood what Jesus meant by destroying the temple and rebuilding it in 3 days? Again, if he knew, then why crucify him? According to 1 Cor 2:8... none of the rulers of this age knew. I think this weighs much more in favor of Satan not knowing. Why not a different death to disrupt the plan of salvation and maybe just stone him to death? Satan thought he HAD Jesus when he died. Have a great day!! Barry 1 Corinthians 2:11 "For what person perceives (knows and understands) what passes through a man's thoughts except the man's own spirit within him? Just so no one discerns (comes to know and comprehend) the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God". (Amplified) Certainly the Spirit of God is not in Satan, therefore he could not know God's thougts for the redemtion of man. |
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5 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33371 | ||
Just to comment on your earlier point. He might of had some knowledge or thought he did, I don't know exactly, and certainly his failure to worship God was in part why he was cast out of Heaven along with what Isaiah 14:12-14 states. My point isn't to let Satan off the hook, just that he didn't know "exactly" what the entire plan was, but I agree...enough about him. Praise God! Jesus is Lord!!!! Barry |
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6 | Thoughts on Romans 9 | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33720 | ||
Hello Curt, "All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out". I think maybe this is divine Sovereignty and human responsibility. The Father gives men and women to the Son and Jesus will not cast those out who come to him but they must believe in him. I don't believe that everyone that is drawn to Jesus, accepts Jesus as their Savior. Romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" Did not God Foreknow everyone? Of course he did, so then everyone is also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son. It is the Holy Spirit that tugs at man's heart. Jesus said: "behold, I stand at the door and knock" it is then up to each individual to "hear" that knock and "open" the door. This cannot be for the believer because Jesus is already in the believer, supping with him. I think the thing is, it's not how a person gets to the point of Salvation but if indeed they are saved, if indeed one did accept Jesus into their heart. God bless! Barry |
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7 | Does that site address Rev. 6:16-17? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33979 | ||
This is your opinion sir and you are certainly entitled to it and maybe instead of knocking others, why not share your view from all those stacks of books you've read. This is what this forum is all abou is it not? A study of the word, to share your view, possibly stimulate the thoughts of others. I am always open to other's insights and I will check out that book and get back to you with my views on it's content but I might have to go into detail. Ecclesiastes 12:12 But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. Romans 14 1)Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2)For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3)Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4)Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5)One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6)He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Love in Christ Barry |
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8 | Does that site address Rev. 6:16-17? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34013 | ||
CDBJ, I am loose thank you very much and I'm glad you're in a great mood. I do not think that you stepped on my toes but thanks for being sorry. Have a great night. Jesus is Lord! Barry |
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9 | Does that site address Rev. 6:16-17? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34079 | ||
Brother CDBJ, I have a question Not just for you, but for all. Can Jesus come back for us tomorrow? Barry I don't see how anyone cannot say "yes". |
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10 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34476 | ||
Hi Believer, The passages you mention only state why Satan was cast out of Heaven and where he is going but they have nothing to do, in my view, with Satan knowing or not knowing God's plan of Salvation. Our Lord's Blessings Barry |
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11 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34520 | ||
If you will allow me to interject, Reformed - Calvanist, Calvanism, protestanst protestanism, Arminian, Arminianism "Arminian quoted ", "Arminian fashion", "Arminian scholar ","Reformed theologian", "Reformed one", "Armenian view" "Westminster Shorter Catechism's rendering" Whew, that's almmost making me dizzy reading all that. The only ism in the KJV is Baptism. Only Judaism and Baptism are in NASB. There is niether "theologian" nor "theory" in the Word of God. The Bible is not a "theory" and Christianity is not an "ism". How about, " you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" :) yes it is God that draws the person, but does this mean that the one that is being drawn has to accept the gift of Salvation? I don't think so. It is also clear that Salvation is by grace and not by works but according to Rev 3:20.... "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me".... we have to open the door. This opening of the door is not a work but an action that we must do. This verse cannot be for believers because Jesus is already in us and supping with us and we with him. Love in Christ Barry |
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12 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34603 | ||
Hi believer, I agree with most of what you're saying here. "I believe that when our precious Lamb was on the cross, that Satan, in his own self-deception, thought he had won" Isn't the biggest part of the "plan of salvation", our Lord rising from the Grave? Because it has been said, if Jesus didn't rise, then our faith is in vain. 1Cor 15: 14,17 I also believe Satan thoght he "had" Jesus but only because of certain things he did not know,(that Jesus would rise from the grave) not from some "self deception". I simply cannot bring myself to believe that Satan knew, before he was cast out of Heaven what was going to happen, God only knows how many millenia later, unless God himself told him and I just don't see that in these passages. The word of God is alive so maybe one day while reading these passages, the Lord will show me this is how it is but at this time I don't see it. But it really doesn't matter because he has been defeated and will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire and we will live with the Lord forever. Hallelujah!!! Barry |
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13 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 34607 | ||
Hi Curt, How can one be repelled by something without first having some specific knowledge of it first? Is it not true that the word will be known to all nations? It's obvious that everyone that hears the words of our Lord do not get saved. To me, a person doesn't accidently listen to the word of God. Everyone will hear the words of Salvation becuase they are "drawn" to hear it. What about the rich man who came and sought out(Mark says "there came one running") Jesus to learn about eternal llife. This man was seeking eternal life, heard the words of Jesus and rejected him. Did he see out Jesus on his own? Did God draw him? John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him...." In either case he decided to reject the words of our Lord. Whether or not he became saved later I do not know. With God's Love Barry |
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14 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33657 | ||
Clay, Thank you for your response. I too have had things revealed to me while I've read the word. I always pray before I read and as I said at the end of my previous post, nothing takes the place of reading the word. But then, Paul didn't have any new testament scripture to read did he? Pray, Pray is what he did I believe. I was not speaking of praying in other tongues in church but in private, for self edification(1 cor 14:4) alone with the Lord. Let me put it this way. Paul wrote most of the New Testament so, 1.He seemed to have more direct detailed Revelation knowledge than anyone else in that day and age. 2. He prayed in tongues more than anyone else. 1Cor 14:8 Is that a coincidence? I don't believe there are any coincidences when it comes to our Lord. It just makes sense that the more he prayed in tongues, the more knowledge was revealed to him through the Holy Spirit who only speaks what Jesus tells it to say. John 16:13 God Bless Barry |
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15 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33684 | ||
Hello Hank, Thanks for your input. You are correct, thank you. It was 1 cor 14:18 I was referring to. You said: "Paul's chief discourse in this chapter concerns "a tongue" -- the singular, indicating that it refers to the false gibberish of the counterfeit, pagan ecstatic speech". I'm not sure how you can say that it's false gibberish when Paul clearly says that when you speak in an unkown tongue, you speak to God. He uses the plural "tongues" because he had spoken in an unknown tongue many times before. My impression is that "speaking in unknown tongues" is the same as praying in tongues, out loud, by yourself. What did the Lord mean in Mark 16:17? "These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues" Tongue(s) from the greek "glossa"--- a language (specially, one naturally unacquired) Tongue(s) for 1. Personal edifacation 1 cor 14:4 2. Interpretation 1 cor 14:5 3. deep intercessional groanings Romans 8:26 4. sign to an unbeliever 1 cor 14:22 The 4th took place on the day of Pentecost. Acts 2:4-11 Love in Christ Barry |
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16 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33686 | ||
Hi Clay, neither am I a scholar by any stretch of the imagination. I have put out these questions to get input. if you read my most recent post, I make mention to verse 22. Barry |
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17 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33764 | ||
1 cor 14:27-28 "If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28) "But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God" Paul says in verse 18 "I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all": Now in Verse 19 Paul says.... "yet in the church" Notice the "yet" in KJV or the "however" in NASB, or the "but" in the NIV, or "nevertheless" in Amplified version. Paul was not talking about speaking in tongues in the church in verse 18. 1 Corin. 37)If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38)But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39)Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40)Let all things be done decently and in order. God Bless Barry |
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18 | How to ask for things we don't know | Jer 33:3 | Hecameforu | 33781 | ||
I have read the whole chapter. Thank you for your kind responses |
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19 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34193 | ||
Hello Markarios, Very interesting excerpts taken from that book. Jesus is talking about 2 separate comings in Matthew 24. One that comes in Power and Great Glory is not one that comes as a thief. Jesus is going to come as a thief in the night. Now when a thief comes in the night; he comes, he takes what he wants and he's gone, and nobody knows it. This is how the rapture will be. Jesus will raise the dead and we that are left behind will be caught up with him in the clouds. 1Thes. 4:17 "Caught up" is a Greek translation of the Greek word, which literally means to seize as a robber seizes a prize. The Latin word, from which we get he word "rapture", is raptus, meaning to seize by force. Thus we have as the meaning of rapture that one day, Christ is coming to rob the world of his jewels (or his redeemed ones) to take them into heaven with them. Another interesting thing Jesus said was that it will be as in the days of Noah. Matthew 24: 37) But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39) And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Now in those days they were partying, without a care in the world. This is not going to be the case during the tribulation my friend. Rev. Chapter 8 7) Hail and fire……1/3 part of the trees and all the grass is burnt up. 8-9) 1/3 part of the creatures in the sea die, and 1/3 part of the ships are destroyed. 10-11) Many men die because the waters are made bitter because of a star slamming into the rivers 12) 1/3 part of the sun and moon and stars were darkened 13) and I quote “ Woe, Woe, Woe, to the inhabiters of the earth And on and on it goes….. Rev Chapter 16:9 The pouring out of the vials. “And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.” This sure doesn’t sound like giving to marriage and drinking. Acts 1:11 …"Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven." The whole world did not see Jesus taken up into a cloud, as we will be when he comes back for us. The whole world will see Jesus coming back in Power and Great Glory. Rev 3:10 clearly states that the Lord will spare his church from the hour of temptation to test those who dwell on the earth. Those who dwell on the earth, or earth dwellers are those who have no interest in Heaven. The church is not of this world. 1 Thes 1:10 “and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come”. We are already delivered from hell and death and this is not what it says. “Rescues” is something that hasn’t happened yet but will. 2 Peter 5:9 “then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the Day of Judgment”, You wrote, “"Peter simply repeats what he had been taught by his Lord- the truth that when Christ returns, He will come to simultaneously rescue His saints and destroy the wicked." Let’s not forget the 1000-year reign of our Lord while Satan is in the bottomless pit. If the wicked is simultaneously destroyed then who is on the earth to Judge and reign over during the 1000-year reign? Who is on the earth for Satan to deceive for a season when he is loosed from the bottomless pit? This my friend, is my humble view Love in Christ Barry |
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20 | left during flood,left second coming | Matt 24:39 | Hecameforu | 34248 | ||
Brother Markarios, You have explained your view just fine. First I must apologize if I didn't represent my view well. You said "I'm not quite sure of how "those who will be left behind" are those who will be raptured". What I meant by "left behind" is as it states in 1 Thes 4:16-17"and the dead in christ shall rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds”. Basically, the Church. Again I didn't explain myself well with Acts 1:11. You're absolutely right, it's not how many people were there to see him ascend, it's the fact that he was taken up in a cloud, very quietly, with only believers seeing him and this is how I believe the Rapture will be, as he states in Matthew 24:37,39. My main point here sir is this: Matthew 24:30 states of Jesus coming in Power and Great Glory. He says that all the tribes on the earth mourn and they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds of heaven. Now, in verse 31 he sends his angels to gather the elect from the four winds, from one end of Heaven to another. This is way different than the son of man coming like a thief in the night, in the twinkling of an eye. Do you see the difference between the coming of our Lord in Verse 30 and the way the lord describes it in verses 37,39. This is not a discrepancy, but the “Rapture” and then the coming in Power and Great Glory. You said: “since 1 Thess. 4:17 is speaking of how we are 'caught up', and 'caught up' and 'taken' (in Matthew 24) are very close in meaning. I believe that the church will be 'caught up' and 'taken' away, leaving those who will suffer God's wrath to be left behind.” Exactly Marcarios, the church will be caught up leaving those behind to suffer the wrath in the tribulation. Then after the tribulation is the coming in Power and Great Glory, the gathering of the elect and those all across heaven, chaining and throwing Satan into the bottomless pit, reigning with Jesus for a thousand years…. etc, etc. Overcomers of what?? We have to overcome every day, as you well know. There are also Christians in the world these days that are killed for their beliefs and I'm sure it's going to get worse. Sorry but my question "Who is on the earth for Satan to deceive” was somewhat rhetorical but thank you for you answer. A few other points if I may: Rev 4:1-2 is after the church age and before the tribulation. The location of this event is right for the Rapture, a representation of the Church in Heaven. Chapters 2 and 3 deal with the seven successive periods of church history. Chapters 4 and 5 present a vision in heaven and chapter 6 introduces the Tribulation Period. Another point I would like to make is the fact that the “Church’ is referred to 16 times in the first 3 chapters of Revelation whereas chapters 6 through 18, which cover the tribulation, do not mention the Church once. The natural conclusion drawn from this is that the Church will be absent from the events of the Tribulation. The rapture of the Church is not explicitly taught in Revelation 4 but definitely appears here chronologically at the end of the Church age and before the Tribulation. I’m sure we agree that Revelation is in chronological order. Thanks for the discussion. I await your thoughts if you are so inlcined Have a great night Barry |
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