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1 | Jesus is wisdom argument leads nowhere. | Rev 3:14 | Truthfinder | 96661 | ||
Hi Pastor Glenn, The point about wisdom is logically that wisdom had no beginning since it is one of the four attributes of the Almighty. Thus wisdom is pictorial of something that had a beginning and a direct correlation in both thought and wording exists in Proverbs and Col 1:15 for drawing an accurate and logical conclusion. Jesus, in his prehuman existence, was as Col 1:15 tells us according to the NJB, “the first-born of all creation.” He was “the beginning of God’s creation.” (Revelation 3:14, RS, Catholic edition). “Beginning” [Greek, ar·khe´] cannot rightly be interpreted to mean that Jesus was the ‘beginner’ of God’s creation. In his Bible writings, John uses various forms of the Greek word ar·khe´ more than 20 times, and these always have the common meaning of “beginning.” Yes, Jesus was created by God as the beginning of God’s invisible creations. But now notice how closely those references to the origin of Jesus correlate with expressions uttered by the figurative “Wisdom” in the Bible book of Proverbs: “Yahweh created me, first-fruits of his fashioning, before the oldest of his works. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills, I came to birth; before he had made the earth, the countryside, and the first elements of the world.” (Again according to the New Jerusalem Bible) While the term “Wisdom” is used to personify the one whom God created, most scholars agree that it is actually a figure of speech for Jesus as a spirit creature prior to his human existence. What is really interesting about the rebuttals made by pro-Trinitarians during the Nicene confession is they were using the LXX (regarding it as “inspired”) and it, the LXX, translates the Hebrew qanah with the Greek, ektizo (a form of ktizo, meaning “create” or “make”). Thus they failed to provide an acceptable interpretation to prove Jesus was not Created. This is seen from Athanasius’ (c. 296-373CE) effort, over many pages to conclude, “The Lord created me a beginning of His ways,’ as if to say, “My Father hath prepared for Me a body, and has created Me for men in behalf of their salvation.”--Four Discourses Against the Arians, Discourse 2, chap. 19. P 374. Yes, Athanasius interprets Proverbs 8:22 as a reference to the Word’s (Jesus Christ’s) sojourn in the flesh. As “Wisdom” in his prehuman existence, Jesus goes on to say that he was “by his [God’s] side, a master craftsman.” (Proverbs 8:30, JB) In harmony with this role as master craftsman, Colossians 1:16 says of Jesus that “through him God created everything in heaven and on earth.”—Today’s English Version (TEV). So it was by means of this master worker, his junior partner, as it were, that Almighty God created all other things. The Bible summarizes the matter this way: “For us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things . . . and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things.” 1 Corinthians 8:6, RS, Catholic edition. Truthfinder |
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2 | Are Footnotes Biblical Evidence? :-) | Rev 3:14 | Truthfinder | 96078 | ||
Tim, You know me better than that. You yourself many times have attributed truth and insight to the "qualifications" of Bible translators. I do not. You and I can can even translate. Allow me to ask you about the NASV. Do not their exegetical interpretations sway your way of thinking in the least? Truthfinder |
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3 | Where does Scripture say Jesus created? | Rev 3:14 | Truthfinder | 96016 | ||
Hi Tim, Which translation of the Bible would you prefer? As we know there are so many to choose from. What about the American Standard Version? or the New American Standard Version? Well, in the "Foreword" of the New American Standard Version, we read "This translation follows the principles used in the American Standard Version of 1901, KNOWN AS THE ROCK OF BIBLICAL HONESTY." A.S.V. 1901. John 9:38 - "And he said, Lord I believe and he worshipped him." That is he worshipped Jesus who had given him who was born blind, his sight. A footnote reads: (re. the word worshipped) "The Greek word denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to a creature (as here) or the Creator." The Greek scholar's footnotes recognize Jesus' being a "creature" a "creation". Truthfinder |
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4 | Jesus Created or Creator??? | Rev 3:14 | Truthfinder | 96011 | ||
Hi Christian7, You say in this post that Jesus is as much the Creator as is God. That spells: Jesus is not actually God himself. Just as John 1:1 says, and the Word was "with" God. How can you be "with" someone and at the same time be him? So, I agree with you here. Jesus many times referred to his father as "his God". So he couldn't be Almighty God, too. The Father Jehovah never refers to his Son as his God and Jesus taught us to pray to the Father, since he is our God. Truthfinder |
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5 | Jesus Created or Creator??? | Rev 3:14 | Truthfinder | 95942 | ||
Hi Christian7, What does "God's Son" mean to you. Also, what does God's "only-begotton Son" mean to you? Why do you "know" that Jesus is as much the Creator as is God? Jehovah’s first creation was his “only-begotten Son” (Joh 3:16), “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Re 3:14) This one, “the firstborn of all creation,” was used by Jehovah in creating all other things, those in the heavens and those upon the earth, “the things visible and the things invisible.” (Col 1:15-17) John’s inspired testimony concerning this Son, the Word, is that “all things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence,” and the apostle identifies the Word as Jesus Christ, who had become flesh. (Joh 1:1-4, 10, 14, 17) As wisdom personified, this One is represented as saying, “Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way,” and he tells of his association with God the Creator as Jehovah’s “master worker.” (Pr 8:12, 22-31) In view of the close association of Jehovah and his only-begotten Son in creative activity and because that Son is “the image of the invisible God” (Col 1:15; 2Co 4:4), it was evidently to His only-begotten Son and master worker that Jehovah spoke in saying, “Let us make man in our image.” Ge 1:26. After creating his only-begotten Son, Jehovah used him in bringing the heavenly angels into existence. This preceded the founding of the earth, as Jehovah revealed when questioning Job and asking him: “Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth . . . when the morning stars joyfully cried out together, and all the sons of God began shouting in applause?” (Job 38:4-7) It was after the creation of these heavenly spirit creatures that the material heavens and earth and all elements were made, or brought into existence. And, since Jehovah is the one primarily responsible for all this creative work, it is ascribed to him eventhough it was through Jesus. Ne 9:6; Ps 136:1, 5-9. Please read the verses I have provided in this post and allow the Bible to answer this question for you. Truthfinder |
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6 | True believer | Rom 10:9 | Truthfinder | 95676 | ||
Hi Cris, I seriously doubt these verses were part of the original. Many spurious texts have appeared through time and serious Bible students have availed themselves of such discoveries in order to have the "truth" of God's Word. This stresses the need for being discreet in selecting what Bible translations to use and conclude what was original. Truthfinder |
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7 | Do Angels have Genders? Male and Female? | Matt 22:30 | Truthfinder | 94375 | ||
Hi BKB, First Matthew 22:30 tells us that angels are sexless. God did not create angels male nor female nor with a desire for sexual relations with humans. Yet Satan evidently was able to get some of them to think improperly about such matters. Thus within certain angels a desire was cultivated for something that God purposed only humans should enjoy within the proper bounds of marriage. These angelic “sons of the true God” did a wicked thing, leaving their positions in heaven to come to earth to marry women. (Genesis 6:2) According to Jude 6, those spirits were “the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place” in the heavens. They took on fleshly bodies in order to enjoy illicit sex relations with women. When the Deluge compelled those angels to return to the spirit realm, they were thrown into Tartarus, a condition of utter debasement. (2 Peter 2:4) Truthfinder |
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8 | The beast with seven heads | Revelation | Truthfinder | 94256 | ||
Hi Elijah, As regards “the ten horns” that are upon the seven heads of the scarlet-colored wild beast, they are interpreted to mean “ten kings,” that is to say, all the political rulerships that are represented in the United Nations organization. These “kings” will enjoy worldly prestige or authority for only a short time, as it were, “one hour.” That spells also only a further brief period of life for all those who wonder admiringly at the resurrected “image of the wild beast” and support it. Such ones do not have their names written upon “the scroll of life.” So those who do not want to die off our earth will not join them in worship of “the image of the wild beast.” Truthfinder |
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9 | three men that wore hats | Dan 3:21 | Truthfinder | 94254 | ||
David 2 Sam 15:30 Also the three Hebrew companions of Daniel as recorded at Da 3:21 Truthfinder |
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10 | prophet in dungeon | Jer 38:10 | Truthfinder | 94250 | ||
Jeremiah Jer.38:10-12 Truthfinder |
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11 | Who did God punish for using a psychic? | Acts 16:16 | Truthfinder | 94220 | ||
Hi Jana T, All the various forms of divination, regardless of the name by which they are called, stand in sharp contrast with, and open defiance of, the Holy Bible. Jehovah through Moses sternly and repeatedly warned Israel not to take up these divination practices of the other nations, saying: “There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable things Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you.” (De 18:9-12; Le 19:26, 31) Even if their prophetic signs and portents came true, practicers of divination were not exempted from condemnation. (De 13:1-5; Jer 23:32; Zec 10:2) The Bible’s extreme hostility toward diviners is shown in its decree that all such were to be put to death without fail.—Ex 22:18; Le 20:27. But despite these repeated commandments, apostates flouted Jehovah—not just commoners like the woman of En-dor, but mighty kings like Saul and Manasseh, and Queen Jezebel. (1Sa 28:7, 8; 2Ki 9:22; 21:1-6; 2Ch 33:1-6) Though good King Josiah cleaned out the divination practitioners in his day, it was not enough to save Judah from being destroyed, as her sister kingdom Israel had been. (2Ki 17:12-18; 23:24-27) Jehovah, however, in his loving-kindness, first sent his prophets to warn them regarding their disgusting practices, the same as his prophets warned the mother of all divination, Babylon.—Isa 3:1-3; 8:19, 20; 44:24, 25; 47:9-15; Jer 14:14; 27:9; 29:8; Eze 13:6-9, 23; Mic 3:6-12; Zec 10:2. Divination was also very prevalent in the days of Jesus’ apostles. On the island of Cyprus, a sorcerer by the name of Bar-Jesus was struck with blindness because of his interference with the apostle Paul’s preaching; and in Macedonia, Paul cast a demon of divination out of a bothersome girl, much to the consternation of her masters, who made much gain by her occult power of prediction. (Ac 13:6-11; 16:16-19) However, others, like Simon of Samaria, voluntarily gave up their practice of magical arts, and at Ephesus there were so many who burned their books of divination that the value of them totaled 50,000 pieces of silver (if denarii, 37,200 dollars).—Ac 8:9-13; 19:19. Man’s natural desire to know the future is satisfied when he worships and serves his Grand Creator, for through God’s channel of communication He lovingly reveals ahead of time what it is good for man to know. (Am 3:7) However, when men turn away from Jehovah and become alienated from the only One who knows the end from the beginning, they easily fall victim to spiritistic demon influence. Saul is such a striking example, one who at first looked to Jehovah for knowledge of future events but who, after being cut off from all contact with God because of his unfaithfulness, turned to the demons as a substitute for divine guidance.—1Sa 28:6, 7; 1Ch 10:13, 14. A sharp distinction, therefore, exists between revealed truth from God and information obtained by divination. Those who turn to the latter are often seized in violent convulsions by invisible demonic powers, sometimes working themselves into a frenzy by weird music and certain drugs. No such physical or mental distortions are experienced by true servants of Jehovah when moved by holy spirit to speak. (Ac 6:15; 2Pe 1:21) God’s prophets in a sense of duty spoke freely without payment; the pagan diviners plied their trade for selfish personal gain. Nowhere in the Bible is any form of divination given a good connotation. Many times in the same condemnatory texts spiritistic practices of divination are spoken of together with adultery and fornication. (2Ki 9:22; Na 3:4; Mal 3:5; Ga 5:19, 20; Re 9:21; 21:8; 22:15) In God’s eyes divination is comparable to the sin of rebellion. (1Sa 15:23) It is, therefore, unscriptural to speak of Jehovah’s communication with his servants as a manifestation of “good” divination. Truthfinder |
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12 | Does the bible talk about psychics? | Acts 16:16 | Truthfinder | 94217 | ||
Hi plong62, At Acts 16:16-19, the sacred record reports that “a certain servant girl” in the ancient city of Philippi furnished her masters with much gain by her “art of prediction.” The account plainly says, however, that the source of her predictions was, not the almighty Creator, but “a demon of divination.” Hence, when the apostle Paul expelled the demon, the servant girl lost her powers of prediction. When we understand that such predictions come from a demonic source, we see why God’s Law to Israel stated: “There should not be found in you . . . anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events . . . For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.” (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) In fact, the Law made such practices a capital offense.—Leviticus 19:31; 20:6. It may surprise you to learn that evil forces are behind many seemingly harmless superstitious practices. Yet, the Bible says that Satan ‘transforms himself into an angel of light.’ (2 Corinthians 11:14) Satan and the demons under his control can make dangerous practices appear harmless, even beneficial. At times, they may fabricate portents and make them come true, deceiving onlookers into thinking that such omens are from God. (Compare Matthew 7:21-23; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12.) This explains why some predictions made by those claiming special powers at times come true. Of course, many, if not most, who claim special powers are fakes, mere charlatans, out to bilk money from the unwary. But whether fakes or otherwise, they are all effectively used by Satan to turn people against Jehovah, blinding them to “the glorious good news.”—2 Corinthians 4:3, 4. Truthfinder |
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13 | number of authors in bible? | Bible general Archive 2 | Truthfinder | 94215 | ||
Forty, different authors. Truthfinder |
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14 | Number of writers who wrote the bible | Bible general Archive 2 | Truthfinder | 94214 | ||
Forty Truthfinder |
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15 | Clarification please? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Truthfinder | 94210 | ||
Hi Charis72, Allow me to jump in. I have not read any of your posts. In other words, I do not know you so in way of a little explaination, when most use the word "Lord" and it refers to Almighty God, I use Jehovah, since that is his name and it clearifies whom I am referrencing. Likewise when referencing Jesus as Lord I use "Lord Jesus". Yes, the apostle Paul stated at 2 Timothy 3:16: “All Scripture is inspired of God.” The phrase “inspired of God” translates the compound Greek word the·o´pneu·stos, meaning, literally, “God-breathed” or “breathed by God.” Thus it is the state of being moved by or produced under the direction of, in this case God. He "moved" these some 40 different Bible writers to write exactly what he wanted written. As the apostle states, God spoke “in many ways” to his servants in pre-Christian times. (Heb 1:1, 2) In at least one case, that of the Ten Commandments, or Decalogue, the information was divinely supplied in written form, merely requiring copying into the scrolls or other material used by Moses. (Ex 31:18; De 10:1-5) In other cases, information was transmitted by verbal dictation, word for word. When presenting the large body of laws and statutes of God’s covenant with Israel, Jehovah instructed Moses: “Write down for yourself these words.” (Ex 34:27) The prophets also were often given specific messages to deliver, and these were then recorded, forming part of the Scriptures.—1Ki 22:14; Jer 1:7; 2:1; 11:1-5; Eze 3:4; 11:5. Among still other methods used for conveying information to the Bible writers were dreams and visions. Dreams, or night visions as they were sometimes called, evidently superimposed a picture of God’s message or purpose on the mind of the sleeping person. (Da 2:19; 7:1) Visions given while the person was conscious were an even more frequently used vehicle of communication of God’s thoughts to the mind of the writer, the revelation being impressed pictorially upon the conscious mind. (Eze 1:1; Da 8:1; Re 9:17) Some visions were received when the person had fallen into a trance. Though conscious, the person apparently was so absorbed by the vision received during the trance as to be oblivious to all else around him.—Ac 10:9-17; 11:5-10; 22:17-21. Angelic messengers were used on many occasions to transmit the divine messages. (Heb 2:2) Such messengers played a larger part in the transmission of information than is at times apparent. Thus, whereas the Law given to Moses is presented as spoken by God, both Stephen and Paul show that God used his angels in transmitting that legal code. (Ac 7:53; Ga 3:19) Since the angels spoke in Jehovah’s name, the message they presented could therefore properly be called “the word of Jehovah.”—Ge 22:11, 12, 15-18; Zec 1:7, 9. No matter what the particular means employed for the transmission of the messages, all parts of the Scriptures would be of the same quality, all of them being inspired, or “God-breathed.” I hope I have answered your question. Truthfinder |
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16 | Here's what Jesus said before he died. | 1 Pet 3:19 | Truthfinder | 93944 | ||
Hi Tony, Many translations read as follows and must be accurate. "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise." Notice where the comma is placed. False doctrine is derived/supported by placing the comma before today. Truthfinder |
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17 | Thankyou, what do you think about this? | Matthew | Truthfinder | 93372 | ||
Hi Chusarcik, If a distiction of the greek words for Hell (Hades) and Tartarus is not taken into consideration, wrong conclusions will be drawn. Tartarus is a prisonlike, abased condition into which God cast disobedient angels in Noah’s day. It is found but once in the inspired Scriptures, at 2 Peter 2:4. The apostle writes: “God did not hold back from punishing the angels that sinned, but, by throwing them into Tartarus, delivered them to pits of dense darkness to be reserved for judgment.” The expression “throwing them into Tartarus” is from the Greek verb ta·ta·ro´o and so includes within itself the word “Tartarus.” A parallel text is found at Jude 6: “And the angels that did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place he has reserved with eternal bonds under dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.” Showing when it was that these angels “forsook their own proper dwelling place,” Peter speaks of “the spirits in prison, who had once been disobedient when the patience of God was waiting in Noah’s days, while the ark was being constructed.” (1Pe 3:19, 20) This directly links the matter to the account at Genesis 6:1-4 concerning “the sons of the true God” who abandoned their heavenly abode to cohabit with women in pre-Flood times and produced children by them, such offspring being designated as Nephilim. From these texts it is evident that Tartarus is a condition rather than a particular location, inasmuch as Peter, on the one hand, speaks of these disobedient spirits as being in “pits of dense darkness,” while Paul speaks of them as being in “heavenly places” from which they exercise a rule of darkness as wicked spirit forces. (2Pe 2:4; Eph 6:10-12) The dense darkness similarly is not literally a lack of light but results from their being cut off from illumination by God as renegades and outcasts from his family, with only a dark outlook as to their eternal destiny. Tartarus is, therefore, not the same as the Hebrew Sheol or the Greek Hades, both of which refer to the common earthly grave of mankind. This is evident from the fact that, while the apostle Peter shows that Jesus Christ preached to these “spirits in prison,” he also shows that Jesus did so, not during the three days while buried in Hades (Sheol), but after his resurrection out of Hades. 1Pe 3:18-20. Likewise the abased condition represented by Tartarus should not be confused with “the abyss” into which Satan and his demons are eventually to be cast for the thousand years of Christ’s rule. (Re 20:1-3) Apparently the disobedient angels were cast into Tartarus in “Noah’s days” (1Pe 3:20), but some 2,000 years later we find them entreating Jesus “not to order them to go away into the abyss.” Lu 8:26-31 Truthfinder |
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18 | What does sanctification mean? | Bible general Archive 2 | Truthfinder | 93358 | ||
Hi Fritzygirl, After assessing various sources I come to the conclusion that the word "sanctification" means an act or process of making holy, separating, or setting apart for the service or use of the Almighty God. Or it can be the state of being holy, sanctified, or purified. “Sanctification” draws attention to the action whereby holiness is produced. You will find that words drawn from the Hebrew verb qadhash´ and words related to the Greek adjective ha´gios are rendered “holy,” “sanctified,” “made sacred,” and “set apart.” A better understanding of the subject can be gained by a consideration of the usage of the words in the original languages. They are applied in the Scriptures to (1) Jehovah God, (2) Jesus Christ, (3) angels, (4) men and animals, (5) things, (6) periods of time or occasions, and (7) land possessions. Sometimes the Hebrew word for “sanctify” was used in the sense of preparing or making oneself ready or in fit condition. Jehovah commanded Moses to say to the complaining Israelites: “Sanctify yourselves for tomorrow, as you will certainly eat meat.” (Nu 11:18) Before Israel crossed the Jordan River, Joshua ordered: “Sanctify yourselves, for tomorrow Jehovah will do wonderful things in your midst.” (Jos 3:5) In all cases the term has a religious, spiritual, and moral sense. It can denote the getting away from anything that displeases Jehovah or appears bad in his eyes, including physical uncleanness. God said to Moses: “Go to the people, and you must sanctify them today and tomorrow, and they must wash their mantles. . . . because on the third day Jehovah will come down before the eyes of all the people upon Mount Sinai.” (Ex 19:10, 11) The word is used to mean purifying or cleansing, as at 2 Samuel 11:4, which reads: “She was sanctifying herself from her uncleanness.” The first two of the seven, I will address. 1) Jehovah God is holy and absolutely clean. As the Creator and Universal Sovereign, he has the right to the exclusive worship of all of his creatures. Therefore he says that he will demonstrate his holiness, acting to sanctify himself and his name before the eyes of all creation: “I shall certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.” (Eze 38:23) Those who desire his favor, and life, must “sanctify” him and his name, that is, they must hold that name in its proper place as separate from and higher than all others. (Le 22:32; Isa 8:13; 29:23) Jesus taught his followers to pray as the foremost thing: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified [or, “be held sacred; be treated as holy”].”—Mt 6:9 2) Also, Jesus Christ. Jehovah God selected his only-begotten Son and sent him to earth to do a special work in behalf of God’s name and to give his life as a ransom for humankind. But he was not received and respected by the Jewish nation as that sent one; rather, they denied his sonship and his position with his Father. He replied to them: “Do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?”—Joh 10:36. The apostle Peter writes to Christians, telling them to “sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts.” He shows that one who does this will stay away from what is bad and will do good. The people of the nations hold in their hearts an awe and a fear of men and of other things. But the Christian should set Christ in the right place in his affections and motivations. This would mean recognizing Christ’s position as God’s Chief Agent of life, the Messianic King, God’s High Priest, and the one who gave his life as a ransom. He should also keep Christ’s example of good conduct before him and hold a good conscience in connection with his own conduct as a Christian. If a person, even a ruler, should harshly demand a reason for his hope, the Christian who thus sanctifies Christ in his heart will make a good defense, yet with a mild temper and deep respect. 1Pe 3:10-16. Truthfinder |
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19 | What was Jesus doing in the earth 3 days | Matthew | Truthfinder | 93273 | ||
The Bible’s answer to the question, “What did Jesus do in Hell for 3 days?” To answer this question, you be the judge as to what the Bible says “death” is. A word of caution though, at the outset is in order, because there are indeed other teachings which tend to sway us. We are introduced to death as Adam’s penalty for sinning. Gen. 2:17 “But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.” Thus God says Adam would die. What though did Satan tell Eve? He told her at Gen. 3:4 “At this the serpent said to the woman: “YOU positively will not die.” I personally choose to believe what God told Adam and NOT what Satan told Eve. If we read Gen. 2:7, we learn what life is. Thus the opposite of life is death. Logical? Certainly it is. Gen 2:7 tells us, "And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul." What consciousness did Adam have when he was a dead soul, a few momements earlier? I have no reason to conclude that he had any! What conclusion am I to draw but at dying Adam returned to total unconsciousness as he was before becoming a “living soul”? Is that not what the Psalmist tells us when speaking of living souls at Ps. 104:29, “If you conceal your face, they get disturbed. If you take away their spirit, they expire, And back to their dust they go.” Going back to Genesis 3:19, “In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” What consciousness does dust have? Supporting Biblical thoughts abound and here are a few to contemplate: 1)Ps 146:4 “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; In that day his thoughts do perish.” 2) Eccl. 9:5, “For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all" 3) Eccl 9:10, ”All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol, the place to which you are going.” 4) Ps. 22:15, “My power has dried up just like a fragment of earthenware, And my tongue is made to stick to my gums; And in the dust of death you are setting me.” The Interpreter’s Bible (Vol. II, p. 1015), commenting on 1 Samuel 25:29,which says, “When man rises up to pursue you and look for your soul, the soul of my lord will certainly prove to be wrapped up in the bag of life with Jehovah your God; but, as for the soul of your enemies, he will sling it forth as from inside the hollow of the sling.", observes that “the idea of man as consisting of body and soul which are separated at death is not Hebrew but Greek.” (Edited by G. Buttrick, 1953) Similarly, Edmond Jacob, Professor of Old Testament at the University of Strasbourg, points out that, since in the Hebrew Scriptures one’s life is directly related with the soul (Heb. nephesh), “it is natural that death should sometimes be represented as the disappearance of this nephesh (Gen. 35:18; I Kings 17:21; Jer. 15:9; Jonah 4:3). The ‘departure’ of the nephesh must be viewed as a figure of speech, for it does not continue to exist independently of the body, but dies with it (Num. 31:19; Judg. 16:30; Ezek. 13:19). No biblical text authorizes the statement that the ‘soul’ is separated from the body at the moment of death.”—The Interpreter’s Dictionary of the Bible, edited by G. Buttrick, 1962, Vol. 1, p. 802. What must we hereby conclude once again? That even though the ancient Egyptians and other peoples of pagan nations, and particularly the Grecian philosophers, were strong in their belief in the deathlessness of the human soul, both the Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Greek Scriptures speak of the Hebrew soul nephesh and Greek psykhe as dying (Jg 16:30; Eze 18:4, 20; Re 16:3), needing deliverance from death (Jos 2:13; Ps 33:19; 56:13; 116:8; Jas 5:20), or as in the Messianic prophecy concerning Jesus Christ, being “poured out . . . to the very death” (Isa 53:12; compare Mt 26:38). The prophet Ezekiel condemns those who connived “to put to death the souls that ought not to die” and “to preserve alive the souls that ought not to live.”—Eze 13:19. The only reasonable conclusion we can come to is that Jesus did absolutely nothing for three days, because he was dead. The Bible's definition of what Hell is will also enable one to see this more clearly. Truthfinder |
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20 | If Jesus did it, way can't I? | John 1:1 | Truthfinder | 91020 | ||
Hi Tim, We have manuscript proof that "scribes" NOT Jesus changed the originals again and again of the Hebrew yhvh of the Hebrew texts in their translation of the LXX. They even give their reasons. After Matthew (not Jesus) wrote Jesus' words of Matt. 4:10 there is abosolutely no reason for them to suddenly (still after Jesus time) stop their tradition of substituting Lord for the yhvh in their Greek LXX (of the Greek texts) written after Matthew wrote it. We have many many Hebrew manuscripts of the Greek texts though, that have the yhvh but unfortionately no originals. Remember too, that Matthew wrote his book originally in Hebrew. I contend that Jesus used the LXX before it was changed by the scribes. And since we lack the "originals", evidence points stronger toward Jesus' not following the errors of the Jewish tradition and you cannot conclusively say Tim, that Jesus did not use his Father's name on occassion, especially when he "quoted" the Hebrew texts (whether the LXX or Hebrew writtings) that used it. It's interesting that most of the LXX manuscripts, before they were changed kept the Hebrew letters for the yhvh, yet one discovery, (the 4Q LXX Lev(b) ) presented in Supplements to Vetus Testamentum, Vol. IV, 1957, p 157, shows that the yhvh was translated also as IAO. Truthfinder |
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