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1 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | Jim Estes | 193476 | ||
Ruth 1:1 Now it came about in the days when the judges governed, that there was a famine in the land. And a certain man of Bethlehem in Judah went to sojourn in the land of Moab with his wife and his two sons. Which “land of Moab” did Elimelech, Naomi and their two sons sojourn? Was it the “land of Moab” across the Jordon where “Moses undertook to expound this law.” (Deu 1:5), where Moses spoke the words of the covenant which the Lord commanded (Deu 29:1), opposite Jericho which contains Mount Nebo (Deu 32:49) and where Moses died and is buried (Deu 34:5-6)? This is the land also described as “the plains of Moab” which were given to the tribes of Gad and Reuben as an inheritance (Joshua 13:32). “It was indeed a place suitable for livestock” (Num 32:1). It was beyond the Jordan between the Arnon and Jabbok Rivers. Or was it the actual nation of Moab? If it is the nation of Moab, then how is this reconciled with Deu. 23:3? "No . . .Moabite shall enter the assembly of the LORD; none of their descendants, even to the tenth generation, shall ever enter the assembly of the LORD.” The “land of Moab” is a phrase used to describe both areas of land. It seems, coming from Bethlehem, they would first travel through the “land of Moab” occupied by Gad and Reuben before reaching the nation of Moab. Ruth could be referred to as a “Moabitess” because she was a Moab by birth, or as her place of residence as a Reubenite or Gadite. Just as Elimelech, Naomi and their two sons were known as Ephrathites (Ruth 1:2). Thank you. |
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2 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | srbaegon | 193495 | ||
Hi Jim, There was only one land of Moab, and you identified "problems." Let me help smooth them a bit. 1. The plains of Moab were between Ammon and Moab, but under Moabite control. 2. Elimelech abandoned God by moving to Moab. He and his sons lost their lives over it. 3. Ruth was of the nation of Moab and should not have been allowed into the Lord's people. However, and this is vital, God always honors faith in Him regardless of any prohibition. We see this with Rahab (all Canaanites were to be destroyed) and the Syro-Phoenecian woman (Matt 15:21-28; Mark 7:24-30). Steve |
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3 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | Jim Estes | 193582 | ||
Hi Steve, Thank you for your response and for answering the call of my questions. I’m afraid that your statements, “There was only one land of Moab” and “The plains of Moab were between Ammon and Moab, but under Moabite control” are not accurate. I think we can agree that the “plains of Moab” are located between the Arnon River on the south, the Jabbok River on the north, the Jordon River on the west and the Ammonites on the east. Reference: The Holman Bible Atlas, plates 32, 36, and 42. This same area is referred to several times in scripture as “the land of Moab.” This area was part of the nation of Moab. But, before Israel arrived from Egypt, this part of Moab, from the Arnon to the Jabbok was lost to Sihon, King of the Amorites. When Israel arrived, they asked Sihon to let them pass through his land. Sihon refused and then made war against Israel. “Israel struck him with the edge of the sword and took possession of the land from the Arnon to the Jabbok, as far as the sons of Ammon.” These facts are detailed in Numbers 21: 13-26. This put the nation of Moab in such fear that they hired Balaam to curse Israel! Then the land was given to the tribes of Reuben and Gad as an inheritance if they would help the other tribes conquer the Promised Land. Why did Reuben and Gad want the “plains of Moab”, AKA: “the land of Moab”? The land was good land for livestock. Therefore, it must have had plentiful grass and water. Numbers 23:49-50 “They camped by the Jordan, from Beth-jeshimoth as far as Abel-shittim in the plains of Moab. Then the LORD spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by the Jordan opposite Jericho, saying,” Deuteronomy 1:5 “Across the Jordan in the land of Moab, Moses undertook to expound this law, saying,” Deuteronomy 29:1 “These are the words of the covenant which the LORD commanded Moses to make with the sons of Israel in the land of Moab, besides the covenant which He had made with them at Horeb.” Deuteronomy 32: 48-49 “The LORD spoke to Moses that very same day, saying, Go up to this mountain of the Abarim, Mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab opposite Jericho, and look at the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the sons of Israel for a possession. Deuteronomy 34:1-6 “Now Moses went up from the plains of Moab to Mount Nebo, to the top of Pisgah, which is opposite Jericho And the LORD showed him all the land, Gilead as far as Dan, and all Naphtali and the land of Ephraim and Manasseh, and all the land of Judah as far as the western sea, and the Negev and the plain in the valley of Jericho, the city of palm trees, as far as Zoar. Then the LORD said to him, "This is the land which I swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, 'I will give it to your descendants'; I have let you see it with your eyes, but you shall not go over there." So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. And He buried him in the valley in the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows his burial place to this day.” So there is a “land of Moab,” containing the “plains of Moab,” above the Arnon River. This land was possessed by the tribes of Reuben and Gad at the time of Ruth. The nation of Moab was located below the Arnon. To which did Elimelech, Naomi and their sons travel? What scripture supports the nation of Moab? Or where am I wrong above? Thanks again, Jim |
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4 | Which "land of Moab" in Ruth? | Ruth 1:1 | srbaegon | 193624 | ||
Hello Jim, That's what I get for trying to answer from memory. :-( Sorry about the mix-up. It's Amorites, not Ammonites. The book of Ruth says they moved to the land/country of Moab and refers to Ruth as a Moabitess throughout. Based on these two pieces of evidence, I can say that Elimilech took his family outside the region controlled by Israel into the region controlled by Moab. Steve |
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