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1 | Does it Really matter? | Bible general Archive 4 | BradK | 203424 | ||
Hi Cheri, Without trying to be disagreeable, the Church is not Israel! The Sabbath was given to Israel and we now seek to take their blessing(s) and appropriate it? God the Father has blessed us "with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ" (Eph. 1:3 NASB) What more blessing can there be? It is not the Sabbath I seek, but Christ Himself! Does not Col. 2:16- 17 speak to this?: "Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day-- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." (NASB) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | Does it Really matter? | Bible general Archive 4 | skccab | 203428 | ||
Brad, The Sabbath was created on the 7th day! On the 7th day, God created the Sabbath and sanctified it, made it holy - Gen. 2:3. There was no Israel at that time, but God still called it holy. Then, long after God created Sabbath and called it holy, Israel came into being. The Sabbath came first. I never said it's wrong to worship God on Sunday. I said the Bible says it's right to observe the Sabbath. There is nowhere in the Gospels where Messiah rescinded the Sabbath either. My understanding is that God is not a man that He'll change His mind willy-nilly, this way and that. What He has called holy is indeed holy and remains such. What is man that he should take it upon himself to change God's decrees? We gentiles, as believers, have been grafted in to the commonwealth of Israel, not the other way around. It is only one tree. We all get nourishment from the same root. If God grafted us into His olive tree, why should I attempt to distance myself from the blessings He gave to that "tree" that I'm now a part of? Rom. 11:15-31. If you adopted a child into your family, would that child not also be adopted into the blessings you've given to your natural born children? Or would that child be a second-class family member? Of course not! That child would be subject to every blessing and every expectation that your natural children are raised under. Same with our Heavenly Father. Also, if you adhere to the 10 Commandments, it's right there, Exod. 20:8-11. Again, never been rescinded. I answered a question with a Bible verse. The BIBLE states the blessing for the Sabbath, not me. Mat. 5:17-19. If someone is being led to follow God's direction, I tread very carefully. And I've yet to read anywhere in the Bible, old or new testaments, where God has decided to change His mind on this particular issue (and many others we're not discussing). Also "speaking the truth in love" :-) Cheri |
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3 | Does it Really matter? | Bible general Archive 4 | BradK | 203429 | ||
Hi Cheri, I do understand what you're saying. However- and it's a big however- again, the Church is not Israel! My actual question related to the "extra blessing" from keeping the 'Sabbath"! I simply don't see it:-) If there is some additional blessing, what is it? I also understand His immutabilty, but by following your logic we should still be offering sacrificies too, should we not? Additionally, though Paul wrote the majority of the NT he doesn't address the (any) importance of 'the Body of Christ' keeping the Sabbath. If it were still applicable to us, he would seem remiss to have not mentioned it! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Does it Really matter? | Bible general Archive 4 | skccab | 203435 | ||
Hiya again Brad, Why would he? The Gentile believers were meeting with the Jewish believers at that time and being taught by the Jewish teachers at the local synagogues. There was no need for him to talk about what was already being taken for granted. They were meeting on Shabbat. He was writing letters to local churches about immediate concerns. As to your question about the sacrifices - They were performing sacrifices at that time - Paul completed a vow of his own as well as paying for the 4 men to complete their vows. But I think the Temple was destroyed for that purpose, to put an end to that part, for now anyway (there's still Ezek 38 to the end of the book to deal with :-) ). Let me just finish by saying that personally I have never been so blessed before I started observing the Sabbath. God accepts and honors worship anytime it's offered. The Bible says the Sabbath is holy and that's all I'm saying - that the Bible says it, and I don't know of anywhere where it un-says it :-) Cheri |
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5 | Does it Really matter? | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 203440 | ||
Dear Cheri, You wrote, "They were performing sacrifices at that time -- Paul completed a vow..." The vow is referenced in Acts 18:18. Where does it say that a sacrifice was associated with that vow? Consequently, when Christ came into the world, he said, "Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired, but a body have you prepared for me; in burnt offerings and sin offerings you have taken no pleasure. Then I said, 'Behold, I have come to do your will, O God, as it is written of me in the scroll of the book.'" When he said above, "You have neither desired nor taken pleasure in sacrifices and offerings and burnt offerings and sin offerings" (these are offered according to the law), then he added, "Behold, I have come to do your will." He does away with the first in order to establish the second. (Hebrews 10:5-9 ESV) With the infinite superiority of Christ's sacrifice, why would you suppose that an apostle would bother with a sacrifice of the old covenant? Especially the apostle who probably wrote these preceding words, as well as the following words: O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Did you suffer so many things in vain--if indeed it was in vain? Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law (Galatians 3:1-5a ESV) To have offered up a Sacrifice would have repudiated to one and all the gospel that Paul preached. In Him, Doc |
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