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1 | NIV...Gods...? | Bible general Archive 4 | BradK | 232133 | ||
Hello G. Preston, As far as your "three things we need to know from the Bible to receive eternal salvation", I'd respectfully disagree. I think we have a very different perspective on what constitutes salvation to begin with:-) Here's why: 1. Repentance. This is certainly part of salvation, but not THE entirety of it. I think you've confused the order (ordo salutis)of salvation. Is not the major aspect of salvation predicated upon faith in the completed work of Christ? (Rom. 4:3, Eph. 2:8-9). Scripture definitely supports this. Note, it is "Faith's Hall of fame" in Hebrews 11, not repentance! There is a difference; 2. Baptism. Does the Bible teach that we must be water baptized to be saved? Church History and a clear majority of those within Orthodoxy would proclaim- as I- that, no it does not! Though this is is continually debated, If it is a requirement for my and your salvation, then we are saved by works! Period! This negates the sufficiency of Christ's atoning sacrifice. We also have something about which to boast (1 Cor. 1:31) What then of Rom. 11:6?; 3. Living righteously. This follows the process of sanctification, but does not nullify the grace of God. We don't live righteously to gain merit, favor or keep our salvation. We live 'the obedience of faith" because of what He did for us.(Eph. 1:3-14) We set ourselves apart because we are new creatures (2 Cor. 5:17). We walk by faith, not sight (2 Cor. 5:7) because we are in Him (En Christo). I believe that one of the single most important motivations to live godly is His grace and our understanding of it: Titus 2:11 "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, Titus 2:12 "instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age",(NASB) Keeping the law as a Christian would seem to be empirically an excercise in futility!If we must keep the Ten Commandments, then again Christ profits us nothing and He died in vain (Gal. 2:16, 21) No, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes".(Rom. 10:4). "The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith. But after faith has come we are no longer under a tutor" (Gal. 3:24-25) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | NIV...Gods...? | Bible general Archive 4 | G. Preston | 232134 | ||
BradK, Your last thought must be addressed first; We are not perfect in our actions thus the need for Christ's blood shed...for forgiveness. G-d knows what is in lour heart. When we sin...if we are sincerly in Christ..we will feel terrible...thus the heart is troubled. Christ provides forgiveness. ..thru grace. Performing the three things prepares us for advancing our state of rightousness. Unless they are first in place...all other actions are for nye. |
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3 | NIV...Gods...? | Bible general Archive 4 | BradK | 232136 | ||
Hello G. Preston, I'm not quite following you:-) My last thought...? We are forgiven according to Eph. 1:7, "In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace". This is accessed by faith. Your emphasis appears to be upon our performance... what WE do not, what He has already accomplished for us! Our only righteousness comes from being, "in Him" (1 Cor. 1:30) we have no righteousness apart from Christ! Can you summarize your thoughts by or from scripture, so I can better follow? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | NIV...Gods...? | Bible general Archive 4 | G. Preston | 232137 | ||
...."not by works alone"...didn't mean to convey that thought. | ||||||