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1 | Ammonites and Moabites today? | Bible general Archive 4 | skccab | 196894 | ||
Shalom y'all, Blessed morning to you all. Do we know who today were the Ammonites and Moabites? :-) Cheri |
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2 | Ammonites and Moabites today? | Bible general Archive 4 | stjohn | 196895 | ||
Hi Cheri, I found this at, http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01431b.htm -- "Justin Martyr refers to them as a numerous people in his day, but in the course of the next century they vanish completely from the view of history." -- There is much more to read about them of course, but it looks like as far as; who they might be related to today?... They are dust in the wind. However, you can probably find more and varied opinions, as to, where they may have gone or even if they are, somehow, still around. :-) God bless John |
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3 | Ammonites and Moabites today? | Bible general Archive 4 | skccab | 196901 | ||
Shalom John, Thank you so much. Finishing up the book of Deut. (or I noticed that most of the peoples that the Israelites were to fight for the land would be allowed to join with them after a certain number of generations - but these 2 were to NEVER ever, so I was just wondering what happened to them. Guess you found the answer (I'll check out the article after work). Cheri |
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4 | Ammonites and Moabites today? | Bible general Archive 4 | stjohn | 196906 | ||
Hi Cheri, Your welcome; also, I read somewhere, [may have been the same place] that it was because of there incestuous relationship with Israel through the incest of Lot's daughters, that, that was the reason for God's rejection of them. God bless John |
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5 | Ammonites and Moabites today? | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 196907 | ||
Hi, Brother John... I think that might be speculative leap regarding God's judgment of Moab and Ammon. We really don't have that stated in Scripture. We even have Biblical instances of God protecting them (Deuteronomy 29:1). On the other hands, we have a lot -- no pun intended -- of other good reasons to know that God was not pleased with these people (Isaiah 16:6-7). Josephus, in his "Antiquities of the Jews" writes, "But his daughters, thinking that all mankind were destroyed, approached to their father, though taking care not to be perceived. This they did, that human kind might not utterly fail: and they bare sons; the son of the elder was named Moab, Which denotes one derived from his father; the younger bare Ammon, which name denotes one derived from a kinsman. The former of whom was the father of the Moabites, which is even still a great nation; the latter was the father of the Ammonites; and both of them are inhabitants of Celesyria." Josephus is reflecting the Rabbinic consensus that their efforts were rooted in fundamentally good intentions. Although they tend to agree that Lot dropped the ball, by allowing his family to become integrated into the culture around them without properly instructing his family. Of course, you have to take all of that with a grain of salt... a kosher one of course. In Him, Doc |
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6 | Ammonites and Moabites today? | Bible general Archive 4 | stjohn | 196911 | ||
Amen Brother, I had to think about that myself and went back to the books. :-) After returning to my studies, I soon realized that that probably was indeed the case, and when returning was glad too, to find your post. The argument for this assertion, [i.e. God was rejecting them becaus of incest], is indeed quite thin, against it, is one fact that God had not given the law yet when Lot's daughters manipulated the situation to repopulate a world they thought was, void of other men. Although that could be, but not easily supported ether, I don't think. However, in favor, it is thought that God's rejection was after the law had been given. That's a pretty thin argument as well I think, and also, not supported by scripture, like you said, and I agree; even if it was, [i.e. suported by scripture] and, 'one' of the reasons, [which is speculative] it was one of many reasons, as you pointed out. Probably should have qualified my post with an, [of corse this is a theory], or something, but then I wouldn't have had the benefit of your post, with more incite on the subject. Thanks for your time Brother Doc! Me like kosher salt! :-) God bless John |
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