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1 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | YenIsaRap | 219653 | ||
Dear Brad Sorry it is apparently my fault.:-/ You say "The OT saint looked forward to the Christ and the cross" But your only scripture that backs up your statement, is New Test. (John 8:58) And that is a statement made by Jesus about Himself, which does not saying anything at all, about the beliefs of the Old Test. Jewish Nation. The thing that is lacking, is the Old Test. scripture that states, there WAS SALVATION afforded to the Jewish People before Jesus became our sacrifice. The only thing they were given was the Law, which was to lead them to the knowledge they needed a Savior, because no one gains Righteousness by the works of the Law. Another scripture, that would shed a lot of light on this subject, would be the one that says the Jewish People were looking for a Savior, someone that would save them from their sins. They had the Law, that they believed they could keep. They had no need for a Savior. They were looking for a Messiah, the definition of which does not say (Savior). Anointed, Consecrated, King, or Priest, which is what the definition does say. (Strong's) You ask "Are you saying Jews were not saved in the OT?" "Yes" I have not to this point, seen any evidence to the contrary. When statements are made like VAL "In the old testament people were saved by looking forward to the birth of Christ." That requires a Scripture to back it up. Without Scripture, it is nothing more than a supposition, assumption. Could you answer these for me? 1) If you would, could you explain how was a Jew saved, prior to Christ's atonement, proselyte or not? 2) Was it by the works of the Law? Be Blessed YenIsaRap |
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2 | Salvation for the Gentiles | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 219666 | ||
Let me bring the following to the table. I don't have a lot of time so you will have to look up the scriptures for yourself by searching these characters of the bible. Abraham - God told Abraham in you all the nations of the earth will be blessed. By looking at this one statement we have drawn our conclusion that He was speaking about Christ Jesus. We know there is only one name that was given through which men may be saved according to Peter and that was Jesus. Salvation therefore came through Abraham's righteous line because of the promise God made to Abraham. What is this blessing? We draw this conclusion; that men may be saved, have eternal life through Jesus. Now the question is; is He talking to just the 12 tribes of Israel or is He including all people of the earth? From Revelation 7:9 we draw the conclusion that he was speaking of all mankind as we see it was all tribes, peoples, and tongues in verse 9 before the throne. Abraham had a miracle son at an old age with his elderly wife. The son's name was Isaac, the son of promise. Follow Isaac's line down and it takes you to David. In the book of Ruth we see Ruth was a gentile so this would enable Jesus to be the kinsman redeemer for the gentiles as well as the jews. I believe Mary's line also came through Abraham. So we come full circle. Now what does the verse mean to Abraham; in you all the nations of the earth will be blessed mean? Is this promise only to the 12 tribes of Israel? First the blessing means life for those who believe (have saving faith) in Christ Jesus. Second, the blessing is for every tribe, nation and tongue of the earth. So Abraham and his descendants looked forward to the cross. I believe my friend gave you the Isaiah passage of the suffering servant which is a picture of the cross. Maybe some of the others can elaborate on any questions you may have. Merry Christmas! |
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