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1 | The United Stated in the Bible | Bible general Archive 4 | skccab | 213021 | ||
Shalom Doc, I've already discussed this with John. I had trouble with the quote and the portrayal of any country in it. I got lost in it. As far as any assumptions, I go with Gen. 12:3 plus others that escape me at the moment. I believe that God views Israel and the nations. If we are born-again of Messiah then we, as individuals are viewed, individually, as part of Israel (and just as 10 righteous people could have saved Sodom, they can also save the nations in which they live today). But nationally, believing individuals may suffer along with those nations who rise up against Israel. I believe that Jer. 31:35-37 and 33:19-26 is still God's heart (concerning physical Israel and those who have spiritually joined themselves to Israel). He hasn't changed. I'm nowhere near as good at words as you are, Doc, so I hope I didn't mess this up too much.... :o) My main trouble, again, was the connection with the quote and the attempt to "see" any given country linked to it... Cheri |
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2 | The United Stated in the Bible | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 213023 | ||
Dear Cheri, In mathematical proofs we used to use the abbreviation QED for a Latin phrase meaning "that which was to be demonstrated." In a proof it was not acceptable to build a conclusion on premises that had not yet been proven. Your string of assumptions make the point quite well. If the assumptions themselves haven't been proven, any conclusion stemming from them is doubly uncertain. In logic we call this the fallacy of presupposition; or, more familiarly, a loaded question. Justme's question committed this breach. You see, I cannot honestly answer the question if I am not persuaded that the modern Israel is equivalent to the Biblical Israel. I cannot honestly answer the question if I am not persuaded that the modern Israel is implied in passages like the latter half of Matthew 24, etc. I cannot honestly answer the question if I am not persuaded that Matthew 24 and Daniel 9 have contemporary literal relevance. I cannot honestly answer the question if I am not confident of a dispensational hermeneutic of Scripture. Etc. Etc. Etc. In Him, Doc |
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3 | The United Stated in the Bible | Bible general Archive 4 | skccab | 213026 | ||
Greetings Doc, OK, I'm with you now, I think. (Like I said, sometimes it takes me awhile....) I think I understand what you're saying now. Hope you've had a great Sunday. :o) Cheri |
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