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1 | RAPTURE | Bible general Archive 3 | KALUMBA | 165561 | ||
1.When does Rapture take place, is it before tribulation or after tribulation? 2.Is the rapture going a secert one or everybody will know what has taken place? I need answers supported with scriptures. thanks |
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2 | RAPTURE | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 165569 | ||
Hi Kalumba, There are several different answers people give in answer to your questions. Some say pre, some say post, some say mid tribulation. This is a complex subject and requires the careful study of numerous passages of scripture. I believe the Lord will remove His church at the beginning of the Seventieth Week. Romans 11 teaches quite clearly that God had in the past made the Jews His primary representative on the earth, but then removed the Jews from their place, and made the gentile church His primary representative. The time will come when the gentile church will "fill up", and then the Jews will again be His primary representative. It is at this time that the gentile church will be removed from it's place, and the Seventieth Week will begin. Consider this: Matthew 24:42 “Watch, then, for you do not know in what hour your Lord comes.” Matthew 25:13 “Therefore, watch, for you do not know the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man comes.” Mark 13:32-37 “But concerning that day and the hour, no one knows, not the angels, those in Heaven, nor the Son, except the Father. Watch! Be wakeful, and pray. For you do not know when the time is. As a man going away, leaving his house, and giving his slaves authority, and to each his work (and he commanded the doorkeeper, that he watch), then you watch, for you do not know when the lord of the house is coming, at evening, or at midnight, or at cockcrowing, or early; so that he may not come suddenly and find you sleeping. And what I say to you, I say to all. Watch!” Revelation 16:15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief.” We watch for Jesus, not knowing when He comes. “He commanded the doorkeeper, that he should watch,” to watch for the returning master of the house. Jesus says over and over to watch because we don’t know when He is coming, and we are to be found ready. Jesus wants us ready at all times, telling us that He could come back at any time, that we should expect Him at any moment. Are we wrong to expect Him at any moment? We know Jesus is coming. We are to watch for Him. Are there prophecies to be fulfilled before He comes? Whether or not you believe the rapture to be imminent, as if you should be watching for it right now, depends entirely on where you place it in referrence to other prophecies. If you believe that the rapture will occur following the beginning of the Seventieth Week, or following the the abomination of desolation according to the common pre-wrath or post trib views, then the rapture is not imminent, it can't happen until these other things do, and there is no point in watching for it until you have seen these othere prophecies fulfilled first. But that is not what Jesus commanded. The basic idea of expectancy implies imminence, in that if my understanding of end-times prophecy were that a particular prophecy or group of prophecies had to happen before the rapture, I would not be expecting Jesus ‘at any moment’. I would be looking intead for the fulfullment of that prophecy. There will be no imminency, and neither will there be expectancy. You will not be expecting the rapture, you will be expecting other things first. There is no scripture that tells us, to my knowledge, whether other people will be aware of the rapture. It seems logical that people will be, for instance someone who is in the same room as believers, who sees them disappear. But that is purely spectulation, and the Scripture seems to indicate that the time of the rapture will also be a time a great cataclysmic upheaval, as the Seventieth Week begins, so people may be paying more attention to trying to stay alive. There is far too much Scriptural evidence to fit on this forum, I will be happy to email to you more for you to look at if you wish, just contact me at markdseyler@yahoo.com Love in Christ, Mark |
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