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1 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | David24597 | 159971 | ||
Some of you may be interested in these historical records taken from the teachings of several Christian denominations: Note the following quotes from the Catholic Church: "Question: Have you any other way of proving that the church has power to institute festivals of precept? "Answer: Had she not such power she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her: she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority." A Doctrinal Catechism, by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174. "Question: What day was the Sabbath? "Answer: Saturday "Question: Who changed it? "Answer: The Catholic Church." From Rev. Dr. Butler’s Catechism, Revised, Page 57. "It was the Catholic Church which, ...has transformed this rest to the Sunday in remembrance of the resurrection of our Lord. Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church." Plain Talk About the Protestants of Today, by Msgr. Segur, Page 213. The first Sunday law ever made was that issued by the Emperor Constantine, March 7, A.D. 321, which reads as follows: "Let all judges and town people, and the occupation of all trades rest on the venerable day of the sun; but let those who are situated in the country, freely and at full liberty, attend to the business of agriculture; because it often happens that no other day is so fit for sowing corn and planting vines; lest the critical moment being let slip men should lose the commodities granted by heaven." Corpus Juris Civilis Cod.: lib. 3, tit.12,3 In A.D. 364 the council of Laodicea forbade the observance of the seventh-day Sabbath: "Sabbath, Change of, Action of Council of Laodicea on A.D. 364 – Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday [Sabbath, original] but shall work on that day; but the Lord’s day they shall especially honor, and, as being Christians, shall, if possible, do no work on that day. If, however, they are found Judaizing, they shall be shut out from Christ." A History of the Councils of the Church: from the Original Documents, Rt. Rev. Charles Joseph Hefele, D.D., Bishop of Rottenburg, book 6, sec. 93, canon 29 (Vol. II, page 316). Edinburgh: T and T Clark, 1896. What do Protestants say?: Baptist: "There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath Day, but that Sabbath Day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week, with all its duties, privileges, and sanctions. Earnestly desiring information on this subject, which I have studied for many years, I ask, Where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament, absolutely not. There is no Scriptural evidence of the change of the Sabbath institution from the seventh to the first day of the week... "Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day, as we learn from the Christian Fathers and other sources. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism!" Dr. Edward T. Hiscox author of The Baptist Manual, in a paper read before a New York Ministers' Conference held in Nov. 13, 1893. Lutheran: "They [the Catholics] allege the Sabbath changed into Sunday, the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalogue, as it appears; neither is there any example more boasted of than the changing of the Sabbath Day. Great, say they, is the power and authority of the church, since it dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments." Auxsburg Confession, art. XXVIII. |
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2 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159976 | ||
Just to balance things out a bit so we don't get denominationaly too one sided... :-) "As it is the law of nature, that, in general, a due proportion of time be set apart for the worship of God; so, in his Word, by a positive, moral, and perpetual commandment binding all men in all ages, he hath particularly appointed one day in seven, for a Sabbath, to be kept holy unto him:[Exodus 20:8, 10-11; Isaiah 56:2, 4, 6-7] which, from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ, was the last day of the week; and, from the resurrection of Christ, was changed into the first day of the week,[Genesis 2:2-3; 1 Corinthians 16:1-2; Acts 20:7] which, in Scripture, is called the Lord’s day,[Revelation 1:10] and is to be continued to the end of the world, as the Christian Sabbath.[Exodus 20:8, 10; Matthew 5:17-18]." --Westminster Confession of Faith 1664, chapter XXI, paragraph VII "As it is the law of nature, that in general a proportion of time, by God's appointment, be set apart for the worship of God, so by his Word, in a positive moral, and perpetual commandment, binding all men, in all ages, he hath particularly appointed one day in seven for a sabbath to be kept holy unto him, which from the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ was changed into the first day of the week, which is called the Lord's day: and is to be continued to the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week being abolished. (Exodus 20:8; 1 Corinthians 16:1, 2; Acts 20:7; Revelation 1:10)" --London Baptist Confession of Faith 1689, chapter 22, paragraph 7 "Q. What does God require in the fourth commandment? "A. First, that the ministry of the gospel and the schools be maintained[1] and that, especially on the day of rest, I diligently attend the church of God[2] to hear God's Word,[3] to use the sacraments,[4] to call publicly upon the LORD,[5] and to give Christian offerings for the poor.[6] Second, that all the days of my life I rest from my evil works, let the LORD work in me through His Holy Spirit, and so begin in this life the eternal sabbath.[7] "[1] Deut. 6:4-9; 20-25; I Cor. 9:13, 14; II Tim. 2:2; 3:13-17; Tit. 1:5. [2] Deut. 12:5-12; Ps. 40:9, 10; 68:26; Acts 2:42-47; Heb. 10:23-25. [3] Rom. 10:14-17; I Cor. 14:26-33; I Tim. 4:13. [4] I Cor. 11:23, 24. [5] Col. 3:16; I Tim. 2:1. [6] Ps. 50:14; I Cor. 16:2; II Cor. 8 and 9. [7] Is. 66:23; Heb. 4:9-11." --Heidelberg Catechism, Question 103 You also left out this quote from the Augsburg Confession (1530), "Of this kind is the observance of the Lord's Day, Easter, Pentecost, and like holy-days and rites. For those who judge that by the authority of the Church the observance of the Lord's Day instead of the Sabbath-day was ordained as a thing necessary, do greatly err. Scripture has abrogated the Sabbath-day; for it teaches that, since the Gospel has been revealed, all the ceremonies of Moses can be omitted. And yet, because it was necessary to appoint a certain day, that the people might know when they ought to come together, it appears that the Church designated the Lord's Day for this purpose; and this day seems to have been chosen all the more for this additional reason, that men might have an example of Christian liberty, and might know that the keeping neither of the Sabbath nor of any other day is necessary." You have also used the word "Catholic" in your post as synonymous with "Roman Catholic." Sunday worship originated in the church before the Roman Catholic Church came into existence (cf Acts 20:7). The word "catholic" simply means "universal." In Him, Doc |
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3 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | David24597 | 159978 | ||
Doc, If Acts 20:7 is proof that Sunday should be kept as a day of rest then Acts 2:46 is proof that every single day of the week should be kept as a holy Sabbath day of rest. Also remember in Bible times a day was a 24 hr. period beginning at sunset and ending 24 hrs. later at sunset. This meeting in Acts 20:7 was at night and continued until midnight (Saturday night) and Paul began his journey "on the morrow" (Sunday morning). I Cor. 16:1 and 2 was simply a request to have their offerings ready for him for when he arrived and is not a command to keep Sunday as a Sabbath day. Where does the Bible say the "Lord's Day" in Rev. 1:10 is Sunday? Would it not be the day Jesus says He is Lord of? Matt. 12:8 Thanks for adding this "You also left out this quote from the Augsburg Confession (1530), 'Of this kind is the observance of the Lord's Day, Easter, Pentecost, and like holy-days and rites. For those who judge that by the authority of the Church the observance of the Lord's Day instead of the Sabbath-day was ordained as a thing necessary, do greatly err. Scripture has abrogated the Sabbath-day; for it teaches that, since the Gospel has been revealed, all the ceremonies of Moses can be omitted. And yet, because it was necessary to appoint a certain day, that the people might know when they ought to come together, it appears that the Church designated the Lord's Day for this purpose; and this day seems to have been chosen all the more for this additional reason, that men might have an example of Christian liberty, and might know that the keeping neither of the Sabbath nor of any other day is necessary.' You have just confirmed what I was saying that the Church, itself claims they have changed the Sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday. Also remember the seventh day Sabbath as not part of the laws of Moses. It was first instituted in Gen. 2:1-3 many, many years before Moses was even born. The 10 commandment law is not part of the "laws of ordinances" that were nailed to Jesus' cross. |
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4 | Whats the major reson for sunday worship | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159983 | ||
Church, little c... Now, if you wouldn't mind, we'd all be quite interested in discussing other things. As I said, this has been discussed on the forum -- usually by fans of Ellen White -- so often that there is nothing more that can be said. |
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