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1 | can you give some scriptures? | Bible general Archive 2 | Sir Pent | 119796 | ||
Defense of my position......................................... Hi BradK, I appreciate both your and Tim Moran's opposing viewpoint, and actually agree with you that suicide is not an unforgivable sin. I believe that if a person somehow survives suicide, they can indeed repent to God and be forgiven for it. However, if the person does not survive, then they cannot be saved. This is not because their sin is so terrible, but simply because a person cannot be saved who is in denial of God at the time that they die. I think that you and I would both agree that if a person dies in a state of denial of God's essential character then they cannot be saved. Therefore, the disagreement is simply over whether we believe that the person committing suicide is denying God or not. As I stated in my previous post, a person who commits suicide (assuming mental capability for rational thought) is making a decision based on several beliefs. They believe that their present situation is beyond God's ability to help them through (denying His power) or that He does not want to help them (denying His love). They also deny that He has a plan for the rest of their life (denying His word in Jeremiah 29:11). Do you have any other way to see this than a denial of God? |
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2 | can you give some scriptures? | Bible general Archive 2 | BradK | 119812 | ||
Sir Pent, Thanks for your response. I don't think we're vastly far apart on this, but it does come down to (as you say)"whether we believe that the person committing suicide is denying God or not." We are dealing with a somewhat hypothetical scenario, but here are my thoughts. One question that comes to mind on this matter is this: Is sin denying God? Suicide is as much a sin as any other. Rom. 14:23 says "...whatever is not of faith is sin." Here's my position. We're either saved or not. One has placed their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ... or they haven't. So, could someone become despondent to the point of suicide? Yes, I believe they could. One could not walk in the Spirit and let the (despondency) of the flesh overtake them to the point of suicide (Gal. 5:16-17). I don't know of anyone personally, but it could happen. What I believe to be the core issue is that of a misplaced dependency. When one is dependent on self, and not the Lord, we can allow our feelings to control our actions. If the Lord Jesus is firmly in control of one's life and they're rooted and grounded (Eph. 3:17), I think suicide is a remote option. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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