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1 | Preachers with titles wrong? | NT general Archive 1 | Bereaniam | 174014 | ||
My pastor just became an "ordained bishop". It was a "Big" occasion. I was told (since I chose not to attend)that several ministers came and poured oil, laid hands on him,and "prophesied" over him. He was given a royal blue fringed banner to wear around his neck. Embroidered on it are the words bishop and his name. He wears or has it with him when he preaches. We have "elders" in our church and I believe they serve the same function as a bishop. When I have mentioned this, some people take offense that I would equate a bishop with an elder. I also believe that words like bishop, prophet, apostle, evangelist, pastor, etc. are functions, not titles. They are what people do. The bible never mentions these functions in front of a name, e.g. it was Paul, the apostle; Jeremiah, the prophet; Philip, the evangelist. My heart is grieved at so many of the so-called preachers today who want these titles in front of their names. My pastor has become very "successful" during the past 10 -13 years that he has been my pastor. I do see a tremendous change in him. He also teaches that one can lose his/her salvation, and that one is cursed with a curse if one does not tithe. I do not believe either of the latter. I am seriously considering attending another congregation...but I realize that I will never agree with everything someone teaches. What would you do? Bereaniam |
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2 | Preachers with titles wrong? | NT general Archive 1 | carolisblessed | 176519 | ||
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; HONOUR to whom HOUNOUR. What would I do, obey the scriptures Jesus said to Mary in Luke 10:41...Thou art careful and troubled about many things. 1Cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Philippians 2:12...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 1Pet 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake... Rom 10:15 ...How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel... llTim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. I pray that God will give you peace. John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. lCor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. May God Bless You!! carol |
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3 | Preachers with titles wrong? | NT general Archive 1 | HMM | 176554 | ||
Bereaniam, I am with you. I believe you have a cause to worry. Pride is the enemy in all of us and we all need to beware and always check our motives and attitudes. We can not or do not want to be the blind leading the blind. I also do not believe we are under a curse. The Bible teaches us that we are free from the curse. (Read Gal). I also believe in Spirit lead giving not legalistic giving that most churches today label the tithe. So sad, the bondages and burdens people carry. The fear and the worry the pastors that operate under such thinking and the fear and the worry they spread to God's people. You may not be able to find a church that has experienced the freedom from the law of the tithe (although I have actually heard of a few) but you should be able to find one that doesn't teach that we are under a curse and operates under pride. Even Jesus wept over Jerusalem and I am sure, as is indicated in Revelations, He is weeping over many churches today. I agree with Carol that we need to be peace makers but I don't believe the Bible teaches us to be passive. If a brother sins, the Bible says GO. I believe that is why we have to intercede. You are probably an intercessor and God has placed burdens on your heart to pray for these situations that arise. If God wants you to confront then do so as the Lord leads, in His Spirit. If He wants to move you out, then you will have peace about it and God will direct your steps. Pray and get others to pray with you. Maybe God will do mighty things just where you are! YES JESUS! Be aware that the scripture 1 Peter 2:13 is not referring to the church but read the context, it is about our examples we leave for Christ. We are to obey the laws of the government or the workplace or school, whatever is applicable. All scripture must be read in context of what it is applying to. Be careful not to judge the motive though, even though we may think we see pride operating, there may be blind spots in the person or the person may be in denial, which God needs to work and reveal this to them. Addressing what something looks like to you or how things make you feel will keep things in the right perspective. Be at peace and yet morn and weep for the people, for there are many under delusion and as we know the enemy goes about as a roaring lion seeking all he can devour! |
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