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1 | The New Birth - A Survey | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 128859 | ||
I have been conducting an ongoing survey of willing participants in this forum. I would like to be able to wrap up my survey, but would appreciate your help. It would be helpful for me, if I could get as many responses as possible to the following question: In the event we Chrsitian's call "born again" which also has been called the new birth or regeneration, do you personally believe we are personally active or passive in bringing about our "new Birth?" All you have to do is answer; active or passive I do not desire to disagree with anyone, or argue about this with them. I just want to finish this survey and give you my findings. God Bless you all New Creature |
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2 | The New Birth - A Survey | NT general Archive 1 | Country Girl | 128860 | ||
I'm afraid the Lord doesn't portray salvation as being quite that simple as you depict for as Paul says 1 Cor 3:6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth. 1 Cor 3:7 So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth. 1 Cor 3:8 Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor. 1 Cor 3:9 For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building. 1 Cor 3:10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. 1 Cor 3:11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 3:12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 1 Cor 3:13 each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work. 1 Cor 3:14 If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. 1 Cor 3:15 If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. 1 Cor 3:16 Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 1 Cor 3:17 If any man destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, and that is what you are. Correspondingly, we too as recipients of God's Gift of Salvation have our part to play. We must repent, confess and be baptized. Yes, definitely that is our active participation in this process but God's action is the most powerful and long lasting as He's the one who actually saves us and adds us to His Son's Body. Mankind would love to sum up this process in just a few words or maybe even one word but that's impossible as it wouldn't do justice to the amazing sacrifice and selfless love as exhibited by our Lord in going to the cross. I hope this is clear, at least as clear as presented by God's Word. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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3 | The New Birth - A Survey | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 128906 | ||
Country Girl; Believe me. I understand. My personal survey is intended only to see whether or not individuals believe we are passive or pro-active in the event called "new birth" In other words did you or did you not do something to bring about your new birth? Blessings New Creature |
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4 | The New Birth - A Survey | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 128934 | ||
Greetings New Creature! I like Mark's response to the question. I don't think a simple 'active' or 'passive' will cut it. Certainly, Christ does everything in salvation. He paid the price. He forgives. He cleanses. He makes us new creatures (to use your screen name)! :-) Yet, the gift of salvation must also be accepted. Note what Rom. 5:17 says, "For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ." We must receive god's provision of grace and the gift of righteousness in order to partake of it's benefits. To use a human analogy, if I buy a gift for my wife, she has 'done' nothing to deserve it. I bought it because I wanted to do so. I paid for it, not her. I picked it out, not her. I wrapped it, not her. I offered it to her. But, if she does not accept the gift, the gift will 'do' nothing for her. It simply sits in the box - unopened and unwanted. This is why I don't think and 'either or' answer is sufficient. We are commanded to 'believe' to 'receive', and to 'accept'. These are all 'active' voice commands. But, are 'action' only extends to accepting or rejecting the gift, not purchasing the gift. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | The New Birth - A Survey | NT general Archive 1 | New Creature | 128955 | ||
Hello Brother Tim; I am in complete agreement with EVERYTHING you said. In this discussion I am trying to focus on one single aspect of the whole salvation picture. A gift is one thing, and certainly salvation is a gift. Likewise, I realize that we cannot have salvation without "regeneration" or the "new birth." Both are one and the same. I am of the mind that those who have believed and received Christ by faith, most certainly and necessarily must be "born anew." But the term salvation, at least in my understanding differs from the term "new birth" Therefore by trying to focus on "regeneration" for this study, to see how different our beliefs are on this topic is what I am attempting to accomplish. It's just a personal study of mine, in which when completed, I hope to be able to share my findings about what participants in this forum believe. I have already seen where some believe, we are passive in regeneration, while others are saying that we are either active, or at least semi-active in bringing about the event called regeneration. That is why I find this topic interesting. God bless you brother Tim New Creature |
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6 | The New Birth - A Survey | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 128973 | ||
Greetings New Creature! I understand what you are trying to do, but I believe it to be an artifical distinction. Scripture only mentions regeneration and being born from above one time. Neither verse tells us much of anything about when this occurs. My position is that someone who is saved is has been regenerated and born from above. In others words, I believe them to be synomous terms. I understand that some theological perspectives believe that regeneration must come before salvation, but Scripture simply doesn't say that anywhere. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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