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1 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 57373 | ||
Hello Dalprad This is a touchy issue. Your minister has the same opinion as many others--the act of conversion is so definite we will remember time, date, etc. I don't. I can give you the year but only approximate month. My daughter couldn't either as she was only four, but the change in her life was most definite. If you can answer yes to a few basic questions, there should be no doubt. 1. Do you believe in the Son? (John 3:36; 5:24) 2. Do you confess Jesus as Lord and believe He is risen? (Rom 10:9) 3. Do you have the Son? (1 John 5:12) 4. Do you obey now? (James 2:17) Steve |
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2 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 77864 | ||
Dear Steve, I think that the moment of salvation can be pinpointed. The real crux of the matter is when God says you are saved. A lot of people will claim they have salvation, but not if they don't obey. Obedience is seen in many ways. Baptism is the moment of salvation. Baptism has no other significance. The Bible doesn't say, as some claim, that it's an "outward sign that you have been saved." Instead, baptism is an appeal to God for a clean conscience (1 Peter 3:21). Baptism is said to be the moment that you put on Christ (Gal 3:26,27). It is where you are raised to walk in newness of life (Romans 6:3-5). Doubt may still linger as to whether the person was saved, but that goes to the question of faith. But if the person takes God at His word, He will know when God cleansed his soul. Good day. Disciplerami |
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3 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 78161 | ||
Hello disciplerami Most curious. So when I was baptized at age 12 at my parents' command, that is when I was saved. And here all along, I thought it was when I believed at age 16. I guess the Holy Spirit wasted His time in convicting me, since I was already saved. Steve |
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4 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78206 | ||
Hi Steve, Many people are confused. God is not the author of confusion, but it still happens. I don't know when or if you were saved. If you say you are saved, fine. But God is the ultimate judge. You had better check with Him. I do know that the Holy Spirit convicted 3,000 to be baptized on Pentecost for the remission of sins. I hoping the best for you, Disciplerami |
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5 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 78375 | ||
Hello disciplerami Your skepticism is unwarranted. I made a definite decision to follow the Lord Jesus Christ in 1972. The fact that I was baptized three months later did nothing to change my standing before my Savior. Also, those on Pentecost were not convicted to be baptized for the remission of sin. They were convicted of sin, righteous, and judgement (John 16:8-11). Steve |
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6 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78395 | ||
Dear Steve, Please don't get on the defensive. Concerning your statement: "Also, those on Pentecost were not convicted TO BE baptized for the remission of sin. They were convicted OF sin, righteous, and judgement (John 16:8-11)." Let me point out that what they were convicted TO BE and what they were convicted OF are two different things. I agree with the statement. They were convicted of sin and they were convicted to be baptized. What was your point? That you were baptized three months later than when you were taught that you were saved is something you need to look into. Since you waited that long, the PURPOSE for your being baptized is in question. The following reasons for being baptized are inadequate or are altogether without Scriptural merit. 1. 'outward sign of an inward grace [received earlier]' 2. 'out of obedience.' I would agree that it is done out of obedience, but we still disagree as to why. |
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7 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 78816 | ||
Hello Disciplerami You said: "They were convicted of sin and they were convicted to be baptized. What was your point?" My point is that the text does not say that they were convicted to be baptized. Steve |
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8 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78856 | ||
Greetings, I don't know why you conclude that the people on the day of Pentecost WERE NOT convicted to be baptized, because something prompted 3,000 of them to go get in the water. Do you have a better word? Convicted to obey the commands of Peter sounds pretty good to me. Do you have some new understanding of the following: "so then those who had received his word were baptized..."? I'm not interested in a semantics game, so if you have some other word that expresses why they all got in the water, please give it. Disciplerami ;7) |
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9 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 78958 | ||
Hello Disciplerami Peter had been preaching to the assembled crowd. The crowd, under conviction, asked Peter what they should do (2:37). Only then does Peter say they should repent and be baptized. The conviction had already taken place without the mention of baptism. Steve |
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10 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78965 | ||
Steve, It can't be any clearer. They who were convicted we convicted to repent and be baptized. Maybe I'm not understanding your meaning of the word. Verse 37 says they were pricked in the heart. Peter told them what to do. Were they not convicted to repent and be baptized? Curious. Disciplerami |
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