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1 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | Searcher56 | 77844 | ||
All of sniper's passages have been proven to be error in thought. Scripture ... Act 10:44-48, 1 Cor 2:14, 12:3-11, 27-30), 14:1-5 ... Cornelius and Company were saved before they were baptized in water (Act 10:44-48). The gift of tongues is given to the believer (1 Cor 12:3-11 (vs 10), 27-30 (vv 28, 30), 14:1-5). They were praising God, which unbelievers can't do (1 Cor 2:14). ... |
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2 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | sniper | 77848 | ||
Dear Dalprad, In my last post I quoted some Bible teaching on how we can identify the moment that God cleanses us. I understand how there could be confusion over the issue of Cornelius. Peter was struggling with idea of taking the gospel to the Gentiles. He was given a vision by God illustrating that it was God's plan for him to teach Gentiles the gospel. So Peter along with some other Jewish believer went to teach Cornelius. Cornelius was a God fearing man who was searching for the truth. He needed to hear the gospel and Peter preached it to him. While Peter was still preaching a miraculous event occured. The Holy Spirit came upon those listening to the message just as the Holy Spirit had come upon the Apostles on the day of Pentecost. The listeners began to speak in tongues. This was more evidence for Peter and the other Jewish believers(Acts 10:45) that the Gentiles were to be recipients of the gospel. Peter ordered them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, and we know from other scriptures what the purpose of baptism is. I also reject the teaching that a person cannot praise God, search for Him, or be devout and God fearing before they have been cleansed of their sins. Cornelius himself is proof of that. The Bible teaches that one must not only believe the gospel, but confess, repent, and be baptized. Some believe and are afraid to confess. Some believe but are unwilling to repent. Some will confess, and are willing to repent, but fall short of following God's instruction to be baptized. As I stated in my last post, salvation is by faith through God's grace and is not earned by works. It is a gift given by God to those who repent and follow Him. |
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3 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 77853 | ||
Greetings Sniper! May I intrude my friend? I believe that Acts 10:45 is a very important verse as it pertains to understanding Acts 2:38. If I understand your position correctly, Acts 2:38 gives two commands which must be obyed, followed by two results of that obedience. One must: Repent and be baptized, Then they will receive: Forgiveness of sins and the Gift of the Holy Spirit. I have argued in the past, based on the grammar, that this position cannot be accurate. But, Acts 10:45 provides further confirmation of this fact. In Acts 10:45, prior to being baptized, the Gift of the Holy Spirit was received. Afterwards, they were baptized in recognition of their salvation. Now, I have read many sites which attempt to defend the baptismal regeneration postition and they invariably try to argue that this was some sort of special circumstance. However, this can't be. If your position is correct, then according to Acts 2:38, one cannot receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit unless one repents AND is baptized. So, how did those in Acts 10:45 receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit without being baptized? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | sniper | 77861 | ||
Tim, You may intrude. I always appreciate the tone in which you correspond. Thank you for your good spirit. More to come... Sniper |
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5 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 77881 | ||
Greetings Sniper! Thanks for the kind words my friend! I figure that even when we disagree on certain issues that we are still brothers in Christ. And, we are always commanded to let the grace of Christ show in all that we do and say. I pray that all on the forum would make the effort to love one another. We can still disagree! :-) But, we should always love! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | sniper | 77956 | ||
Hello Tim, I had to do some work to find this thread. I am wondering why it got removed from the main page. Sniper |
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