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1 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | Suede67 | 115402 | ||
ischus, First, "Thanks for putting me on the road to growth" Absolutely! I'm so glad you were receptive to it. "What I am suggesting is that perhaps they both saw those still living under the Law as "living in the past" so to speak." Well, not necessarily living in the past, but living in a present that would have no future. Another thing we need to bear in mind is the people that are being addressed, Paul is addressing Gentiles, Hebrews is to Jews. In Col 2:17 Paul shows us that he knows the reality is coming and that the shadow is dissipating and very soon will be gone. Now, with this knowledge, for the Gentiles he's writing to there is no need to go under the law, only to come out of it a few years later. This is sort of a lost understanding to why Paul was so insistent on not putting the Gentiles under the Law in Acts 15. In Hebrews though, the author let's the Jews know that the Old Covenant is still valid, but that it is going away. So, not so much like you are currently 'living in the past', but that you will be very, very soon. "There are several references in each book to the past actions of the completion, fufillment, and nullification of the Law on the cross." Jesus did do much with the cross, note the veil of the temple being torn down. BUT, there was still more to do. The resurrection, the judgements, the wrath and the dwelling with mankind. So yes, let us not discount the cross by any means for it is certainly a key focual point. "I am working this out with fear and trembling," Good. I did too. I still remember when this information came pouring down on me, I thought I was going to throw up. LOL Lastly, Colin aka flinkywood asked me asome more good questions, you may look at my response given at 1:28 in this section. Take care, SUEDE |
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2 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | ischus | 115409 | ||
A Few more for the list.... 1) what is your definition of the Kingdom that Jesus spoke about (and is it phys. or Spiritual) 2) What was Jesus' ministry about? What was his goal? 3) What did the cross accomplish, and what did it not accomplish? 4)What is God's view of the Jews and the Law today? I will look for your answers tomorrow- I am out for tonight. ischus |
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3 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | Suede67 | 115476 | ||
ischus 1) what is your definition of the Kingdom that Jesus spoke about (and is it phys. or Spiritual) Spiritual, though we as believers make up a physical reality of it. I find it interesting, not in a good way, that a lot of Christian theology downplays the Spiritual side of Christianity. God to me is just not overly concerned with the flesh, those are manly things, not Godly things. The resurrected body is a big one I have problems with, but that’s another topic. Luke 17:20,21 “Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." 2) What was Jesus' ministry about? What was his goal? That's pretty broad. We could go with to teach, and live a perfect life, but in short to redeem mankind. Hebrews 9:26 “He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.” 3) What did the cross accomplish, and what did it not accomplish? The Cross provided atonement for sins. Eph 1:7 "In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace." Christians that died right after the cross could also skip Sheol or 'the grave' and go directly to heaven. What it did not directly accomplish was, the resurrection of the dead from Sheol, the Wrath, the Judgement, the consummation of the Ages, the fulfillment of the New Covenant; the things happened at the Second Coming. 4)What is God's view of the Jews and the Law today? Probably not good. Allow me to speak bluntly. It's upsetting that many Christians accept a pluralistic 'faith' with the Jews, as in Judaism is still valid in the eyes of God. I agree that we should be cordial and polite to all, but we need to in the same respect stand firm in our faith. To say that Judaism is equally valid smacks Christ and everything he did for us. In short, it is blasphemous. It's terrible that some theologies like Dispensationalism actually have Israel restarting atonement sacrifices and that those would be acceptable to God! That's blasphemous. It bothers me too that many Jews just accept out of hand that the Messiah will come one day, he's only taking his time, despite the fact that in Daniel we are told when he would appear. Even the Talmud notes that the time for the Messiah has passed. It bugs me that they cannot give an honest evaluation of their own 'faith'. Too much pride, they are Jews for the love of being Jewish, not for the glory of God. In all seriousness, I really, really fear what will happen if a third temple is built in Jerusalem. God knocked the temple down twice, he'll do it again. The nation of Israel has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Bible or "God's Plan". Christians often turn a blind or very biased eye to the events in Israel simply because it involves Jews. But as we can see with Preterism, being 'Jewish' is a moot point now. Take care, SUEDE |
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