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1 | How about common sense? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 1598 | ||
Dear bjanko, good answer, my friend. You are absolutely correct about people (even Christians!) thinking of their situation as an exception. That is precisely why I have been saying that they must be under the spiritual counsel of a shepherd AND the Holy Spirit. (It is amazing how many selfish things can be attributed to the Holy Spirit, isn't it?) You are also correct that poverty alone is a poor (no pun intended) excuse for not having children. If I were to try and typify some possible factors for considering non-abortive contraception, it would be 1) Poverty and Government oppression (like China) The PROC expressly forbids more than one child, the punishment can be extreme! 2) Poverty and poor health care (like India) Having many children is certain doom for those truly finite resources and almost no medicine or hospital facilities. 3) Poverty and disease (like many parts of Africa) AIDS is a REAL epidemic. Bearing children without care is murder. 4) Poverty and political turmoil (like much of Africa and Asia) I am not real sure about this one, but moderation COULD be in order where terrorism and religious persecution are daily realities. 5) Poverty and overpopulation (many metropolitan cities) I am not a 'save the world from overpopulation' nut, but I have been to many places where there is no physical ability to keep more children. I am aware that you could hang them from the ceiling in hammocks, but prudence CAN be a factor. My friend, I am very much aware that now that I have gone 'out on a limb' to list possible factors. Now you are at liberty to just say, "1-5, No excuse! Christians have lived through that before." But these factors, sometimes more than one, affect millions of believers in a real way that we Americans cannot fathom. 'Armchair Quarterbacks' don't win football games. I am simply making a case for us to be moderate in our dictation of ethics, especially where the Bible is silent or unclear. Blessings to you in Christ Jesus. | ||||||
2 | How about common sense? | Bible general Archive 1 | bjanko | 1603 | ||
I have answered as well as I can on trying to apply biblical principles to the general subject. I could only speak hypothetically concerning the specific situations you have mentioned. I could tell you that in situation X an exception can be made, whereas in situation Y there does not seem to be an excuse for not applying the general rule. And I would hope I could be objective enough to live out my convictions were I in a similar situation. Of course, sometimes it is getting into a different situation which causes one to change his convictions -- not alwasy just because "now it's happening to ME!" but because in light of the new situation, the whole principle looks different and your perspective is broadened. Anyway, I do not think I could really lay out my ideas in any more concrete way than I have already. If I did, I do not believe there would be any benefit of it to anyone. You said you were "simply making a case for us to be moderate in our dictation of ethics, especially where the Bible is silent or unclear." I agree in spirit, but to be more precise, I would say it like this: "Let us be firm in our dicatation of ethics where the Bible is firm; and let us be moderate in our dictation of ethics where the Bible is silent or unclear." The issue we have been discussing is not something which Scripture pronounces a firm ethic about. I would agree with you that we should be wise, and would add that we take great pains to think it out carefully. I finally say that we must be cautious in the "rules" we lay out in regard to this issue, because the Bible simply does not address the mattter. I think you and I, discussing this, have done a pretty good job of it. Blessings to you. |
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3 | How about common sense? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 1613 | ||
Dear bjanko, "You are a gentleman and a scholar." These are words my father praised me with when I 'done good.' I thank you for your patience with me. In all truth, my beliefs are very similar to yours. As one whose spiritual counsel is sometimes asked, I must approach, in grace, every individual as a 'special' case before God. But you are perfectly correct in "Let us be firm in our dicatation of ethics where the Bible is firm; and let us be moderate in our dictation of ethics where the Bible is silent or unclear." Well said! Is this yours, or should we give credit to another wise man? Either way, you said it, and I receive it. In Christ Jesus, and Amen! |
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4 | How about common sense? | Bible general Archive 1 | bjanko | 1618 | ||
You wrote: "Let us be firm in our dicatation of ethics where the Bible is firm; and let us be moderate in our dictation of ethics where the Bible is silent or unclear." Well said! Is this yours, or should we give credit to another wise man? My response: Let's just say that it was a collaboration between you and I, brother -- to God's glory. Blessings in Christ to you and your family. |
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5 | How about common sense? | Bible general Archive 1 | Xapis | 2171 | ||
Gentlemen, I thank you for this thread. It has been a joy to read. May God bless you both and heal charis' wife. Jude 24-25. Xapis. | ||||||