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1 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | JoeRick | 12637 | ||
How do we know which promises in the Bible are for us and which ones are for the Jews and/or Israel? | ||||||
2 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 12638 | ||
Hi Joerick, you need to read context. If the context of the passage is addressing Israel or the Jews then you know the promise is for them, if the promise is general then you know the promise is for everyone. There is a line of thought called replacement theology, which wants to replace the word “Jew” or “Israel” with the word “church”. They mostly do it for the promises and seldom do it for the curses. This is an over simplification but I think you have the idea. However there is no Biblical basis to such. The bible contains two types of promises limited and general, limited promises made to a person, specific nations or for a special situations that we can’t claim because we don’t fit as that person, nations or situations. God promise to Abraham is a limited promise made only to Abraham and can not be claimed by anybody else. General promises do not specify a particular person, nation or situation these we can claim. Of these there are two additional classes. Conditional promises and unconditional promises. A conditional promise has as it name states a condition attached to it. John 3:16 is conditional in that you must believe in Jesus to receive eternal life. Unconditional promises again true to their name have no conditions. John 14:3 is unconditional where Jesus promises to return. Read the context and see if God is talking to everybody or to a particular individual, nation, or situation, then you will know. |
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3 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 12667 | ||
Just as a side note, most people who view the Israel as the Old Testament church and the church as New-Testament Israel both embrace the blessings (in a spiritual sense) and the curses. I have not settled in my mind where I stand on this issue yet (having grown up in a thoroughly dispensational background), but to dismiss EVERYTHING said to Israel and even to individuals as automatically not applying to us is an oversimplification. Otherwise, we would have no need of reading the Old Testament at all. Sadly, I see this very practice all-too frequently in the church today. No, I am not holding out for my slice of the Gaza Strip. However, some promises by God to Israelites contain general truths that apply to the lives of all followers of the one, true God. I especially consider those that mention spiritual reward to be applicable to me as well. --Joe! |
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4 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 12710 | ||
Joe This does become sticky, and particularly with today’s teaching focusing on the material blessing promises to Israel. Any time you tell people they were meant to be rich, it excites the people and sells real well. People will come back for more and people coming back is what fills churches. However preaching and teaching a falsehood does not make a falsehood true. Yes your right there are spiritual truths that were given to Israel that apply to each of us today, just as some of the curses apply. But the teaching that we should read church every time it says Israel in the bible is just a falsehood. There are people that go out and walk around land claiming it for their own. That is nonsense! (now don’t everybody write to tell how it has happened that is nonsense) What makes anyone believe God will take one piece of land and give it to another? What happens if the land is owned by Godly people that are keeping to give to the a church? Is God going to take it from them to give to you to make you a land baron? Now if God tells you to go walk around a piece of land and claim it then the promise is to you and you should expect it to happen. Joe you brought up a point that many churches don’t teach the Old Testament and that is wrong. We are to teach and preach the whole Bible rightly dividing the Word of God and holding to the truths that are contained in both the Old and New Testament. However you observation is unique as I find many popular Pastors like to preach from the Old Testament. They find it easier to manipulate the Old Testament characters to their purpose |
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5 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 12759 | ||
I would love to attend a Sunday school class that went through the entire Pentateuch some time. Seems like Leviticus and Deuteronomy are quite overlooked or just dismissed as OT stuff which has no value for the believer in Jesus Christ. --Joe! |
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6 | Which promises? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 12770 | ||
Joe your right there the Pentateuch is rich in wisdom, knowledge, and is of great value. I would say they are probably my favorite to read. Exodus always gives me a lesson if faith. I catch myself saying if I saw this or I saw that I would be so set on fire for God. Then I think about the children of Israel walking through a wall of water on dry ground and three days later asking if there is a God! Our belief has to be based on faith because even physical proof doesn't keep us convince once we can't see it again. | ||||||