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1 | Getting the verdict before the judgment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Radioman2 | 84196 | ||
Man is made up of three parts: Spirit, Soul and Body 1 Thessalonians 5:23 says, "Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." There is a difference between man's breath and spirit: "Thus says the Lord, who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and its offspring, who gives breath to the people on it, and spirit to those who walk in it." Isaiah 42:5 Destination After Death "For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake." Philippians 1:21-24 "Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord—for we walk by faith, not by sight—we are of good courage, I say . . . and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord." 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 The Soul is Conscious After Death Revelation 6:9-11 "And when He broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, 'How long, O Lord, holy and true, wilt Thou refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?' And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, should be completed also." Obviously a person's soul is more than his breath. These robed souls under the altar, crying out to God, are not "breaths." Note that these souls are conscious after death. They were martyred and after death are very much alive in Heaven. They have the ability to cry out to God and to wear white robes. God Himself tells them that more of their brethren will join them after they are killed. Again in Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones; and they sat upon them, and judgement was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand; they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years." Additional Scriptures Indicating the Consciousness of the Soul after Death Job 26:5-6 Matthew 22:31, 32 Luke 16:19-31 1 Thessalonians 5:10 Isaiah 14:9-11; 15-17 When the Soul Leaves the Body, the Body Sleeps The term "sleep" is never applied to the soul or the spirit, but only the body. The soul and the spirit continue to exist after death. The body "sleeps" and goes back to dust. (http://www.sdaoutreach.org/dead.html) |
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2 | Getting the verdict before the judgment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Mathew | 84222 | ||
Job 26:5-6 Im sorry.. i see no relevence here, I just couldn't understand what it was trying to say. Matthew 22:31, 32 This verse says that he is the God of the living and not the dead. And I agree because Psa 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? Ecc 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. Isa 38:18 For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth. Psa 146:4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. There is no consciousness in the grave when were sleeping awaiting our change.Job 14:13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a SET TIME, and remember me! Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my CHANGE COME. Of course hes the God of the living, the dead have no consciousness. Luke 16:19-31 This is a parable of the Jews sharing the gospel with the Gentiles. That is why they are praying to FATHER ABRAHAM and not God. The fact that there not praying to God is enough evidence that this parable is not to be taken litteraly,but figurativly. 1 Thessalonians 5:10 "wether we wake or sleep we should live together"My reply to this is God is every ware. Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. The heavens heavens cannot even contain God. Isaiah 14:9-11; 15-17 These verses are speaking of the ressurection of the ones who will be burnt with the elements of heaven when the heavens are destroyed and rolled up like a scroll devouring Satan and all those not in Christ on the breath of this earth..till they are consumed away in smoke. None of the verses that I checked out from you seemed to line up with the fact that their is consciousness after death. As far as the scriptures in Revalations, well these are after the fact that Christ has already returned and given us heavenly bodies. So I can't use this as evidence to show that a person can go to heaven or hell immediatly after death, and receive the verdict before the judgment. My whole point is that your either in a heavenly body after Christ comes back with his reward, A earthly body while your alive. And the inbetween is unclothed or nakedness....which is sleep(death).The spirit(breath)without the body is dead. |
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