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1 | Did Christ Descend into hell/ | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 68203 | ||
Dear Robert, I am RC, as anyone can see from my profile, and I think the article I quoted from gives substanial scriptural references and is not an area of dispute between Catholics and Protestants. In fact, I suspect that some Protestant catechisms would follow substanially the same lines on this particular subject. I have certainly seen Reformer Joe quote from the Catechism of the Westminster Confession on some questions and not every one here is of the Reformed branch of Protestantism. I make it very clear what my souces are and what faith I profess. Anyone on this forum for any length of time is aware of these facts and I am sure takes them into consideration in evaluating my posts. "We know that the church as you know it went out from the early church and developed many theories which are not of God." This is your opinion, with which I would disagree. "If you are a true believer in the finished work of Christ on the cross, why are you unwilling to take your place with him outside the religions of men?" I believe in the promise of Jesus that the gates of hell would not prevail against His Church (Matt 16:18). I believe that I belong to that Church. I read many Protestant souces here on the forum and elswhere. Many parts I agree with and some I do not. But I quote from Catholic sources, because I know them best, and they are the teachings, including Sacred Scripture, that have formed my faith. I do not "take your(my) place with him(Christ) outside the religions of men" because I believe I am already with and in Him where I am and He is with me and with you also for that matter. I do not feel led by God to go anywhere else or profess any other faith. I presume you say the same if I asked you why you do not become a Catholic. I know that some do not consider Catholics to be Christians. I do not believe that is the majority opinion on the forum. So, I feel no pangs of conscience citing Catholic sources as long as they cite scripture, which my post did in abundance. I posted what I did because I felt it answered the particular question asked in a thorough but reasonably concise manner with scriptural references. Is there anything in the substance of the material presented that you disagree with other than the fact that it is from a Catholic source? Emmaus |
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2 | Did Christ Descend into hell/ | Bible general Archive 1 | Robert Nicholson | 68246 | ||
Dear brother Emmaus: I wasn't for a moment suggesting that because a person is an RC they are not a Christian. I believe the Bible makes it clear that a Christian who has trusted in the finished work upon the cross. The relationship which we have with God through his Son is very personal and is not regulated by organized religion. I have an aunt who is RC and is in her last days on this earth, although a devot RC all her married life, whe is trusting on the finished work of Christ for her salvation. Brother, there are parts of the writings which I would agree with and realize they are supported by the holy scriptures. However, I do not believe that we should take the writings of men and place them equal to the word of God. Please forgive me if I appeared to be critical. The amazing thing is that one day when Christ comes, those which are his at his coming will share eternity with him. Church affiliation does not enter into this at all. Peace in the Saviour's name Robert |
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3 | Did Christ Descend into hell/ | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 68255 | ||
Dear Robert, I can only tell you that we Catholics are as puzzled about why all you guys don't see the light and re-join us, as you are about why we don't see the light and join you. :-) I assure you that any personal relationship with Christ which I have attained was attained by grace through the ministry of the Catholic Church which I believe Jesus founded. I believe Jesus established a Church with a leadership and authority and that this fact is clearly demonstrated in the Gospels, Acts and the Epistles. I believe in a visible Church just as much as I believe Jesus was visible when He was on earth and established His Church. Perhaps that is where we differ. I am not sure. I believe the Church is there to minister to us and facilitate more than regulate our personal relationship with Christ. I have tried doing things on my own in this realm to my great sorrow. If I am being regulated it is with my consent and by my choice to my benefit. I am free to leave any time I wish. Many do. And many come in from other Churches or no Church. Those that come from other Churches do so because they believe the Catholic Church enhances their relationship with Christ. You, I gather, believe differently. If Church affiliation does not enter into this at all, why are you encouraging me to leave the Church with which I am affiliated and through which I have come to know Christ? "I have an aunt who is RC and is in her last days on this earth, although a devout RC all her married life, she is trusting on the finished work of Christ for her salvation." I do not believe that being a devout RC all one's married life and trusting in the finished work of Christ for salvation at life's end are mutually exclusive. I hope to do the same at my life's end even as I do now from day to day. I pray that God will receive your aunt into His presence when she is called. Emmaus |
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