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1 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Curtnsally | 33262 | ||
Let me begin by saying that I am not trying too hard to argue this point... I have entered the fray to try and learn from the discussion. I do believe it is a stretch to say conclusively that Satan did not know God's plan for salvation. The best I can come to, after reading you posts and giving consideration, is that I don't know for sure. Let me respond individually to the Scriptures you quote: 1 Corinthians 2:7 Paul here is speaking about wisdom which was hidden from men. The very next verse says, "None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory". Does not this verse refer to men? Thus, in my view, it does not confirm nor deny Satan's knowledge. Colossians 1:26 Again, the same thought... "the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints." refers to man's knowledge of God's plan. Romans 16:25 "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began". ... "now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him." Same thought. 1 Timothy 3:16 Not sure how you meant to apply this Scripture to your point. Let me postulate a few somewhat rhetorical questions: If Satan did not fully understand the diety of Christ, does this not excuse Satan for being wrong? Can Satan be the "father of the lie" if he does not know and understand the truth to be truth? What does James 2:19 mean, if it does not mean that Satan and his minions have intellectual knowledge of Christ? In Genesis, did the serpent know that he was telling a lie to Eve? How did he know? Why did Satan offer Jesus rule over all kingdoms of the earth if He would deny the Father? Is it possible that Satan had intellectual knowledge, but that his fallenness was in his failure to worship God? Do you think Satan now knows and understands God's plan for salvation? Thanks for jousting with me. Its an interesting question, for sure. Curt |
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2 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33346 | ||
Well Curt, it seems you have a fan. Thank you too for your views. It is an interssting question Curt, however, I will not address your rhetoric except to say that of course Satan does NOW know the plan of Salvation and also of his own demise. Ephesians 3:9 says that the mystery was "hid in God". Let me present to you with a few questions. Can Satan see inside God? If Satan knew of all this, why provoke God if he knew he was doomed to the Lake of fire? If he didn't realize this before he got kicked out of Heaven, then when did he figure it out? Was it when God told him that the woman's seed would bruise his head? Why have Jesus crucified if Satan knew that Jesus would rise from the grave triumphantly and ascend into Heaven? You think Satan understood what Jesus meant by destroying the temple and rebuilding it in 3 days? Again, if he knew, then why crucify him? According to 1 Cor 2:8... none of the rulers of this age knew. I think this weighs much more in favor of Satan not knowing. Why not a different death to disrupt the plan of salvation and maybe just stone him to death? Satan thought he HAD Jesus when he died. Have a great day!! Barry 1 Corinthians 2:11 "For what person perceives (knows and understands) what passes through a man's thoughts except the man's own spirit within him? Just so no one discerns (comes to know and comprehend) the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God". (Amplified) Certainly the Spirit of God is not in Satan, therefore he could not know God's thougts for the redemtion of man. |
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3 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Curtnsally | 33369 | ||
A brief response, point by point (* is me): --------------- Can Satan see inside God? * Not sure, but Satan certainly knows who God is. If Satan knew of all this, why provoke God if he knew he was doomed to the Lake of fire? * Possibly, for the same reason that we sin, even though we know there is a judgment. If he didn't realize this before he got kicked out of Heaven, then when did he figure it out? * Seems to me that Satan was kicked out for knowing and not believing... or knowing and not worshiping God. Was it when God told him that the woman's seed would bruise his head? * 1John3:8 "He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the BEGINNING. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work." What then is sin? Knowing and not believing? Or not knowing at all? Why have Jesus crucified if Satan knew that Jesus would rise from the grave triumphantly and ascend into Heaven? * This is a convincing question, but one could also ask why Satan has done all that he has since the resurrection if he now knows the consequences. You think Satan understood what Jesus meant by destroying the temple and rebuilding it in 3 days? * Not sure, but I would lean toward yes. Again, if he knew, then why crucify him? * See above. According to 1 Cor 2:8... none of the rulers of this age knew. I think this weighs much more in favor of Satan not knowing. * I don't follow your reasoning. Why does the knowledge of rulers bear on Satan's knowledge? One could say that rulers today don't understand either. Does this mean Satan still doesn't know? Why not a different death to disrupt the plan of salvation and maybe just stone him to death? * I can't explain Satan's choices, but clearly he has made wrong choices many times. Satan thought he HAD Jesus when he died. * This is interesting, and as a Christian, I would like to believe this, as there is a certain poetic justice in it. The difficulty I have is in letting Satan off the hook by saying that he really didn't know what he was doing. I think Satan knew, but I'm not sure how much he knew. Certainly, he knew enough to be held accountable. I reiterate my earlier point... Is it possible that Satan had intellectual knowledge, but that his fallenness was in his failure to worship God? ------------------ Well.... all right already... enough about Satan! Let's worship God who will cast Satan into the lake of fire! Praise God for His grace and mercy toward us! Blessings Curt |
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4 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Hecameforu | 33371 | ||
Just to comment on your earlier point. He might of had some knowledge or thought he did, I don't know exactly, and certainly his failure to worship God was in part why he was cast out of Heaven along with what Isaiah 14:12-14 states. My point isn't to let Satan off the hook, just that he didn't know "exactly" what the entire plan was, but I agree...enough about him. Praise God! Jesus is Lord!!!! Barry |
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5 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | heisthe1 | 33391 | ||
Well Curt, seems like you GAINED a fan! I agree lets get on with lifting Jesus higher! Just because satan KNEW the plan for salvation, lets not glorify him. :) Isn't God awesome. | ||||||
6 | Did Satan know God's plan for salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | Curtnsally | 33429 | ||
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