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1 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | bobwilkins99 | 30697 | ||
Hello Sons and daughters of Christ, Question: What do you believe happenes to people who were never told of the Life, death and resurrection of Jesus? Do people who were never witnessed to (by humans) end up spending eternity in Hell? (I am a CHristian and I know the word very well and I have spent countless hours researching this very question. Please repond with thought out answers ONLY.) Grace to you! |
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2 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Christian Marine | 30699 | ||
In Romans Paul tells us that the evidence of God in our surroundings is to make us seek him. Look at the Etheopian eunic. He was seeking and God put Phillip in his life to teach him. I think Scripture teaches us that IF we ignore the evidence and commit blaspfame(sp) by dying without accepting Jesus, then we do go to hell. His creation is to inspire us to seek him. Thing is, when I get to Heaven, I don't want God to ask me why I didn't talk to someone about him and then find out I was the one God had chosen to be there at the minute that person was seeking the truth. Big responsibility, to reflect Christ to this world, I think. Read Romans, use a study Bible and follow the references. |
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3 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | bobwilkins99 | 30865 | ||
Let me see if I understand what you mean. I will TRY to repeat your view, then draw some conclusions that would logically follow. You tell me if I comprehend your stance. You say that due to the evidence of God in Creation and our conscience also bearing witness, these thing will lead some people to "seek" GOD (ROM 1-2). Once someone is "seeking" GOD, then GOD will bring someone into their life to share the Gospel with them. If they "accept" the message in their heart, they are saved. Logical Conclusions: 1.)If we Christians don't do our job of preachiong the WORD, then less people will be saved. 2.)(now, I'm assuming you are a calvinist in terms ofthe "chosen elect vs. free will" debate) Can we say that all those civilizations throughout time, that never had and Christian influence whatsoever, are residing in HELL for eternity. I am pretty confident in the fact that there have been many large civilizations that did not hear any JESUS. ALL of the people in the Western Hemespere went to hell, until the Jesuits came over in the early 1500's. I guess in such a view, we would conclude that it must have "sucked" to be a mayan, Native American, Aztec, Inca, or Eskimo back before the Word made it over to the Westen half of planet Earth. 1500 years of people going to HELL. Every last one of them...straight to HELL. Even if they realized through the natural environment, that there had to be one creator GOD, Even if they realized that they had a conscience and had a general idea of right and wrong, Even if maybe just a few saw their behavior and how it contrasted with their conscience and they "repented" for the evil they knew they did...They still went to HELL, because no one verbally preaced them Jesus. I am not exactly sure how many millions that is, but I can be sure that it would break your heart and GOD's heart. My tone may lead you to believe I don't agree with you at all. However, I do in many regards. I am just a realist who seeks the truth without being totally uncompassionate. I agree that No get to the father except through Jesus. I believe (not sure if you do, but I assume you would) that we do not "choose" or accept salvation. BY NO MEANS! It is fully GOD's Grace that we are saved. Stated in Eph. 2:8 and much of John's gospel. HE first LOVED us. HE gave us even the desire to "seek" Him. God Chose us, we didn't choose GOD. Some were predestined for Heaven, some for Hell. It was contingent not on our works, but on His Plan. Now I just wanted to state my view on that suject because it is closely linked to a systematic approach to my primary question. As I said before, I believe that Nobody gets to Heaven, except through Jesus Christ. I have to believe it, as it is clearly written in the book of John. However, my compassionate side wishes that None would parish, but all have eternal life. Now, if you are not asleep, I wish to pose a further question on this subject. It comes from the school of thought called "inclusivism or "wider hope". not to confused with Universalism (which is some liberal view that all will go to heaven). No, "inclusivism" is much different, or only slightly one may argrue. Proponents of this view are John Saunders and I think C.S. Lewis as well. Now here's where I am inexperienced or on shakey ground. I am quite interested in this theory of inclusivism and will Try not to butcher it. Inclusivism is something to the effect of: When on must go through Jesus to get to the Father, the form of Jesus need not be as we would commonly think. Becasue Jesus is truth ,and people all have consciences which recognize Truth. So those unreached peoples may have some recourse before they go to Hell. I must leave they are kicking me off the computer. |
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4 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | charis | 30869 | ||
Dear bobwilkins99, Greetings from Japan in the name of Jesus! In addition to the 'Americans' before 1492, the Orientals, Aborigines, Africans, etc. got a raw deal, too. Not to mention all non-Jews of the Old Testament, and anyone else not given 'opportunity' to know God. It seems that there is no end to the 'unfairness' of God! :-) Been there, done that! I went through all these hypotheticals years ago. The result? God is God, and God is just, anyway! If there is any such thing as 'salvation apart from Christ,' it is not clearly spoken to us. God MAY have a plan that He hasn't deemed necessary (or prudent!) to inform us about. But He DID give us all WE need to know about life in Christ now! To me, this is enough. I trust Him with my life, and will trust Him with everybody else's life, too. I will preach Jesus, and not worry about the rest. Frankly, 'inclusivism' is (to me) just a balm for the (human) emotions. It does my spirit nothing, and changes my faith in Jesus naught! In my own experience, I may have needed (wanted?) that when my faith was immature, but as the years of trust, obedience, and Holy Spirit sanctification accumulate, simple faith is sufficient for me. Blessings and peace to you in Christ Jesus, charis |
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5 | What about those who never heard of JC ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Hank | 30944 | ||
Charis, "Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man." It is easy enough to draw the inference from your post (and from knowing you) that that is what you try to do. And so do I...... Did you ever know a line from an old hymn: "Just in simple to trust Him"? I'm no longer a young man, Charis, and what I have learned about my faith in 66 years is summed up in those six words. God has plans, I know, that I know nothing of. In His infinite wisdom He elected not to put me in charge of His universe or the salvation of His children. All I can do is trust in Him -- His goodness and His love -- and go about the business of tilling my own little acre of corn as best I can until my days on earth become no more. Love and peace. --Hank | ||||||