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1 | Are Christain who murder exluded? | Rev 21:8 | Just Read Mark | 142944 | ||
I just finished reading Revelation today (and also my first complete read-through of the bible since university days! I'm so energized!) I have found the apolalyptic books (Zecheriah, Daniel, Revelation) some of the hardest to understand, though certainly exciting. I feel swept into the arc of God's story, even if I don't get the details. The verse in question lists people thrown into the fire. The verse immediately before it declares the "victor's heritage" --- indeed, the whole book has repeated blessings for "those who overcome." Those who overcome, it seems, are blameless -- while the sinners are condemned? BUT it is clear from the letter to the churches (Rev Ch 2-3) that the churches are not blameless: some are deceived, some are legalistic, some are prideful etc. These flawed churches are still encouraged to strive for the reward. They are given the vision of overcomers: life radical lives for God and be rewarded! The description of the white (pure) robes gives a clearer sense of what it means to be among the overcomers: "they have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb." (7:14) This is reiterated as a goal for us, the readers, at the end of the book: "Happy are those who wash their robes clean! They shall be free to eat from the tree of life....."(22:14) - this bit is followed by a list of those left outside, very like topic of this thread. The contrast seems to NOT be: "be holy or be excluded" --- but RATHER, "be washed or be excluded." I present these thoughts in all humilty, as I found the book confusing. JRM |
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2 | Are Christain who murder exluded? | Rev 21:8 | Lionstrong | 143016 | ||
1 Cor 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 1 Cor 6:10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. This list of sinners is not exclusive; this list give examples of saved sinners. Other sinners could have been included, such as murders, which is what the Apostle Paul had been. He consented to the murder of Stephen. (Act 7, and 22:20) Also, the only way to be holy is to be washed (see v. 11, "but you were washed, but you were sanctified" [i.e. made holy) |
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3 | Are Christain who murder exluded? | Rev 21:8 | Just Read Mark | 143036 | ||
God's grace is wonderful. Thank you for the scriptural reference. I think Revelation makes a lot more sense when tied back through the Bible like this. The washing is a powerful image. JRM |
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