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1 | Will sin enter heaven? | Rev 21:17 | BradK | 140838 | ||
Hi Tim, Greetings and wishes for a Blessed New Year. As always, I respect and appreciate the wisdom, maturity and insight you bring to the Forum. I don't say this lightly either! I agree with what you say and I do have a pretty good grasp on the Romans 6 argument. We are definitely given the power over sin and we are indeed new creatures in Christ. Gods' grace is marvelous! I think we're in agreement- my only caution would be the "sinless perfection" or "holiness" crowd- which I believe is unbiblical. Speaking the truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | Will sin enter heaven? | Rev 21:17 | Morant61 | 140853 | ||
Greetings BradK! Well, as a Nazarene, I won't take offense! ;-) Of course, 'holiness' is certainly a Biblical term, but 'sinless perfection' is a very misunderstood phrase. Remember though, it was coined in a time when people were not as careful with their phraseology as we are today! :-) 'Sinless perfection' does not mean 'incapable of sinning'. Rather, it means something more like 'don't want to sin'. Wesley used the term 'perfect love' to describe a state of holiness where a believer has such love for the Father that a desire to sin is not a part of it's makeup. To me, that is the best way to understand Rom. 6. Clearly Scripture does not indicate that it is impossible for Christians to sin. Yet, Rom. 6 (and many other verses) do teach that there is a real change that takes place. We are not simply declared righteous (though this is certainly one aspect of salvation)! We are actually made righteous as well. So, my view of sanctification is multifacted. 1) We are judically sanctified as salvation, declared righteous even though we are probably not living righteously. 2) We are progressively sanctified as we mature in Christ throughout our lives. 3) We can reach a point (differing from person to person) of what the Nazarenes call 'entire sanctification', which is basically what Wesley called 'perfect love'. 4) Finally, we are glorified after death and made perfectly righteous in such a way that sin will no longer even be possible. p.s. - Thanks for the kind words my friend! I certainly appreciate your contribution to the forum as well! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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