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1 | Glorious church? | Rev 1:11 | strts5 | 206114 | ||
Ephesians 3:7-11 ...to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things. 10His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, 11according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord. I was raised Pentacostal and remember the pastor talking about end times, and the enemy and to always be carefull or else... (use your imagination). I've also heard many preachers teaching doomsday and be on watch, because these other churches, etc... Are we really members of a weak, just barelly making it by church, or are we a glorious church known throught heaven that the enemy fears? Maybe I'm just on a tangent here. I visited a church last night, great worship, I always feel so buisy doing stuff at my church I can't just stop and enjoy. The sermon though, for some reason just jumped out at me like fingernails on a chalkboard. He was talking about how things are about to get get real difficult for the church and how many are going to fall away if we don't pray and do this and that, etc. I know there is truth to this in one aspect but also didn't Paul say , " many would fall away, if it were possible"? I don't know, but I am starting to feal we are much more united than many percieve, much more powerfull and glorious. Anyway, maybe I'm missing something, I would like to hear others thoughts on this. Are we weak and misserable or is it what God sais? In love, Mike |
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2 | Glorious church? | Rev 1:11 | stoneslinger | 206168 | ||
upon a second reading of your question i felt compelled to state that i don't think the church will fold up or anything. The bible is God's word, and His word will stand; if He says it, it will be done. Do i think we are coming onto and in hard times? Absolutely! It is almost certain. We are living in the end of the ages and God's judgement is certainly coming at some point. Why else do you think it is coming? Things have gotten bad. My opinion is that a region is only as strong as its strongest church. But the idea of persecuction coming to the church, i believe the bible states that. That will be for our own good. It won't weaken the church, only separate the wheat from the chaff. We will retain the saved, and rest assured they will fight twice as hard to fight for what is theirs. A crushed rose smells all the stronger. As far as my point, it was only to be realistic about the current circumstances. The church does not have a whole lot of power minus the Spirit of God. If we have allowed our hearts to be hardened and apathetically ignore the spiritual progress that needs to be done in our lives, how will we utilize the Agent that is here to bring God glory? I am not saying it is hopeless so give up. I am simply saying that too many have already thought that for themselves. Since the beginning of time God has been sending people to raise the bar, and I'm just saying, there are higher heights to be attained. As far as rev. 22, i thought we were talking about the present church. ps if the enemy didn't fear us he wouldn't be trying so hard to split us all up! We will storm the gates of hell! |
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