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1 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204576 | ||
Well as long as you know that all 7 Churches didnt exsist in 90 AD then thats just fine, in 63 AD three of them were destroyed by yes an earth quake. And believe it or not Laodocia wasnt rebuilt till 121 AD. In 90 AD John is the only Apostle left. So why write to the Churches and tell them who have tried the apostles and found them not to be, in that sense theyr are real Apostles around. Why why why. If John new all of them were dead. If your thoughts are dispensensationalists, There was never a domitian slaugtering of Christians He Hated everyone. Nero Killed Christians. You will find out soon enough that our wave will hit you soon, Even southern Baptists and many christian denominations are ashamed and have repented from there view of futurism. Within 10 to 20 yrs futureists will be known for what they thought was truth, and History will write about it as the time the Christians walked away from its true Eschatology which was adhered to for 2000 yrs yet most fell after that false doctrine of dispensationalism that was invented in 1830. Just try and find written evidence before 1800AD. they will not endure sound doctrine, they will be drowned by ever wind and wave of doctrine. Our evidence has written witnesses for 2 thousand yrs, Yours has 181 yrs. Christ is my witness, for we can prove our view with Scripture and you still have to wait until the future before you could prove your right. Mine is in the bible already. When todays Israel gos on and after the generations will be passed which oh we just passed 60 Yrs. Thats right you guys used to write that it would be in 25 yrs after 1948. When 1973 passed oh a Generation must be in 30 yrs.When 1978 passed oh it must be 40 yrs like the Bible says. Your Prophets have been date setting for yrs and always get proven wrong. It was a futureist and all the dispensationalists that said store you food sell out, run to the mountains dig in, it says that flee from Judea so we must be right again to flee to the mountains when YK happened. All along I told eveyone dont listen to the media or the sensational garbadge we will be just fine, cause I didnt listen , I studied it out. And what happened nothing just like the great dissapointment in the 1800 from which I will remind you that your doctrine comes from. Once again How can John measure a Temple in 90 AD or later that hasnt stood since 70 AD. However you can measure a Temple in the 60s AD when REV was wrote. You have been examined and are found wanting.You will see Tim LaHaye say Hes sorry. He already has to Time life mag. But Hes decided that He owes Tyndale house 4 more books, so instead of letting people know guess what He said its not my problem they can believe what they want, let them decide. History will write this down as a conspiracy against true Christian doctrine. Hopefully your not in your eighties yet and will see it come to pass. I am to old , but worked dilegently to prove dispensationalism wrong. You need to reopen your ears and listen to a Doctrine that has History of the Church behind it. Remeber Domitian didnt kill Christians. So the dating of REV could be wron, with a resounding yes its wrong. Now think about Johns Revelation in 63 AD when the 7 yr tready was made between Israel and Rome and after 3.5 yrs Rome broke the peace treaty and slaughtered Jews instead of just Christians. 1.1 million Jews died. The catapolts through Ice covered bolders at Jerusalem. about the wieght of a Talent Flavius Josephus wrote. Who was a Jewish Priest and never knew the book of REV. Nor did He ever Become a Christian. Nero wore Bear skins and claws on His hands and feet A lions head on His head and wings of an eagle on His back as He ripped apart your fellow Christians for not bowing down to Him. He killed them like that with His barehands. And His coins for Rome read , Nero Savior to the world. Read about it its in History, not the future. So have a good day . in Christ Jesus King of the New Jerusalem which is the Israel of God. Gal 6:16 |
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2 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | humbledbyhisgrace | 204581 | ||
RC, I'm not much for debating this subject because the truth is I have not studied it that much. Reading along with this thread I have a question that comes to mind reading your post however so to help me understand your point of view could you please explain? Am I correct your response is in regards to what John pointed out in Revelation 1:11 when you said "Well as long as you know that all 7 Churches didnt exsist in 90 AD then thats just fine, in 63 AD three of them were destroyed by yes an earth quake. And believe it or not Laodocia wasnt rebuilt till 121 AD..."? The reason I ask is I want to make sure this is what you are addressing. If so then I need to ask you to explain if you would your understanding of what the physical churches that were destroyed have to do with Revelation 1:11? It appears to me your view is founded on 3 churches being destroyed by an earth quake. I fail to see what the physical church has to do with it. You don't mean the people of the church were destroyed in the earth quake do you? Am I understanding you correctly? If so, could it be your understanding is based on assumption the church was no more because the physical structure was destroyed in the earth quake and the fact is the writing was not intended for the physical structure but for the church (i.e. the people)? Steve H. |
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3 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204604 | ||
Those seven Churches did exist in 63 AD they were destroyed by 90 AD. They are literal not Spiritual as you maybe suggesting. The writing was for a physical Church. Christs Church will never be destroyed heaven and Earth may pass away But His word shall never pass away. The people no they werent Destroyed that convuluted. My understanding comes from Church History all the way back to 63 AD. Which is when REV was finished By John. We have witnesses through out History. Spiritualist futureists Dont. or Darbys Dispensationalism. Dispies think REV was written after 90 AD. John was warning His contemporaries. peace RC I do study and still do continueally for over thirty five yrs now. IF you are a futurist that is only 181 yrs old and is on the way out the Door. Read Tim LaHays Time magazine statement. Its Crackin up all around me. But He will write more books because He owes Tyndale house. He says let them believe what they want to. IN forty yrs are you guys going to say well it must be 125 yrs for a generation cause so far thats their track record. Isral of the earth is already 60v yrs . Anti Christ was supposed to come several times already at 25 yrs then 30 yrs then 40 yrs all is said Israel wont get that property to build a temple from a billion Musslims and they dont have the Temple toys either. No Fakes aloud. Have a nice day In Christ Jesus RC |
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4 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204605 | ||
Dear R.C. There is much to God's word then eschatology, we have heard you LOUD AND CLEAR now will you please give it a rest! | ||||||
5 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204607 | ||
Just stop notes then,you contacted me. never any answers from you guys. | ||||||
6 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204608 | ||
Hear is an answer: you say it is bad writing to speak laterally and then and something spiritual, well my friend that is exactly what you are doing by saying that the destruction of israel and His second coming has both happened, because you say that the destruction was literal but His Coming was spiritual: That my friend is pious nonsense! | ||||||
7 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | RC Scrolls | 204622 | ||
You need help, ,your talking about different interpretations. in Christ RC I have asked you so many questions which most you cant answer, you say leave you alone, stop writing me then. REV is mostly symbolic except the Churches. When you talk about 70, you have to have evidence not what you think is right. RC stay out of what you dont understand. ST John your the only person that thinks the 7 Churches are spiritual. Totally Esoteric. | ||||||
8 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204625 | ||
Ah.... Huh? My friend you are misrepresenting what I was trying to convey, and have totally misread what I said! wow, I wont even try to straiten this out, I don't believe you'd get it. Sorry. Shalom and God bless sad John |
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