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1 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | Tamara Brewington | 204558 | ||
See Daniel 9 and look closely at verse 24-27, it says that Jerusalem will be rebuilt. Most commentators believe that the temple will be rebuitl at this time and the time is during the the times of distress in Revelation. See Daniel 11:31 where it says that forces from him will arise and desecrate the temple and set up the abomination of desolation. You can't have descration in a temple that does not exist, it has to be rebuit first. It has not rebuit yet and probably won't be rebuilt until the times of distress comes in Revelation times. John doesn't have to mention the temple being destroyed in 70 AD to write about it being rebuilt. As John pointed out to you he was to write down what he saw, not what we want to know. Another thing to factor in is that John would naturally assume that his readers knew that the temple had been destroyed and would not need to mention it. God Bless, Tamara |
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2 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204560 | ||
Dear Tam: In 167 B.C. Antiochus IV Epiphanes, attacked Jerusalem and put down the Maccabean Revolt. Consequently, He then took over the temple, and Josephus historian says, "that he (Antiochus) forbad the daily sacrifices to be offered, which were used to be offered to God, according to the law: and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate; either a garrison of Heathen soldiers in the temple, which drove the priests and people from it, and made it desolate; or rather an idol in it, it being usual in Scripture to call idols abominations, as they are to God and all good men; the image of Jupiter Olympius, as is thought, which was placed upon the altar of God by Antiochus, on the fifteenth day of the month Cisieu, in the hundred and forty fifth year of the Seleucidae, and is called the abomination of desolations, in the Apocrypha:" This appears to be an historical event, and there is little doubt that it actually accred, but there are those that espouse that though this has happened in history that it will happen again at the end of the time of trial, mid tribulation: Inferring that it is a double prophesy. Just some added info, don't know if you are aware of this or not, but thought you would find it interesting. God bless John |
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3 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | Tamara Brewington | 204577 | ||
Yeah John I do find it very interesting as we are currently near the end of studying Revelation at church on Wednesday nights. I welcome the enlightenment John, I really do... :):):) I have been thinking a bit about elements of the Preterist view and thinking about how Jesus talked about both the fall of Jerusalem and the end times at once in Mathew or so they say, I mean some say... My trouble has been when regarding any type of view that espouses any part of of Revelation past chapters 2 and 3 has happened yet is that the rest of what is supposed to happen rather consecutively seems to have been broken up by more than 2,000 plus years. The problem with saying that the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD is that it is supposed to coincide with an appearing of Christ which did not happen, contrary to the veiws of those who like to say it was Christ appearing as Christ's judgment appearing. I like to take the tack as someone so graciously directed me to do and which my pastor gently reminded me of to not read into a passage double prophesies that the author never intended, or which logically can be refuted based on historical and or Biblical evidence. I like it when you do this John, make me think I mean. :):):) God Bless hat lady |
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4 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | stjohn | 204587 | ||
Tamara: The Lord has indeed blessed you with a very inquisitive mind! That a good thing, but do please be careful my dear friend. I don't like to see my Brethren slip! :-) Try this, think about that some believe that the prophesy in Daniel is not refering to revelation ay all but the fall of jerusalem in 70 A.D. as is much of what we read in Jesus' answer to his disciples Matthew is about. "As He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?" Matt 24:3 Some say that this is a two part question, so all of what He revails to them is not about the same event, nor is it about the same timefraime. They ask "when will thease things happen" Well what things was he just talking about? He had just told them about the distruction of the temple, which happens in 70 A.D.. And then they ask: "and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?" And he tells them the answer to both questions, but its hard to ditermin where the break is. But I think it's there, I haven't studied that extensivley though. Shalom and God bless John |
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5 | REV 11 The Temple stands yet destroyed | Rev 1:11 | Tamara Brewington | 204592 | ||
Dear John, Tell me my dear good man, which part of Daniel's prophecy? Chapter 7,8,9,13 or other? Mathew 24:1-2 is indeed talking about the destruction of the temple and then the disciples ask when will it happend and when will Jesus come. So we know that Mathew 24:1-2 has already happened. Jesus addresses their concerns about His coming back in verses 4-31. Jesus addresses their concerns about His coming in verses 36-44. I don't agree that He addresses both parts of the question. He never addresses one of their concerns because the disciples have mistakenly placed together His coming with the fall of Jerusalem. Verse 34 has often been used to denote that the whole discourse was about their present generation, but it may well be referring to the generation of those who will, in the future near His coming be undergoing the great tribulation. According to verse 14 the gospel has to be preached to all the world before any of what He is saying can take place in the discourse as being the end. The gospel has not yet been finished being preached to all the earth yet, so the end has not yet come in order for all the various elements of the discourse to be applied to the first century. I don't think there is a break there, just my opinion. Like many other times Jesus does not answer the whole question, only the part He is interested in them knownig about. I am going to keep thinking about this. Say I wanted to say to you that you were the only one to answer any question I posted from Tuesday morning beyond a short reply and I appreciate the time you took to answer.:) Ain't tryin to complain, just grateful. God Bless hat lady Yeah John I don't want to be slippin and slidin with that inquisitive mind there. |
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